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Title: Report: FBI ordered 4,000+ guns seized from buyers who failed background checks (ATF "retrieval requests")
Source: CBS News
URL Source: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-is ... iled-background-checks-report/
Published: Dec 4, 2017
Author: CBS News
Post Date: 2017-12-05 19:50:54 by Hondo68
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Keywords: collect the weapons, Alcohol Tobacco Firearms, gun retrieval request
Views: 686
Comments: 37


Semi-automatic rifles are seen for sale in a gun shop in Las Vegas, Nevada on October 4, 2017.  ROBYN BECK/AFP/Getty

The FBI issued 4,170 orders last year to seize guns from buyers who should have been blocked by the federal background check system, according to a new report from USA Today. The purchasers include people with criminal records, mental health issues or other red flags.

The report said that's the largest number of gun retrieval requests in 10 years, up from 2,892 requests the year before. It was not immediately clear how many of the guns were successfully recovered. Once the FBI issues a gun retrieval request, it's up to agents with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) to actually collect the weapons.

"These are people who shouldn't have weapons in the first place, and it just takes one to do something that could have tragic consequences," David Chipman, a former ATF official who oversaw the retrieval program, told USA Today.

The actual number of guns involved may be higher, since more than one weapon could have been purchased in some transactions.

Last month, Attorney General Jeff Sessions ordered a review of the federal background check system after it came to light that the Air Force failed to report the criminal history of the gunman who later purchased a rifle and killed more than two dozen worshippers inside a church in Sutherland Springs, Texas.

The National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) system relies on state and local agencies as well as the military to accurately report criminal history and other information. But for years, they have failed to upload critical records with no consequences for failing to follow federal law, CBS News correspondent Paula Reid reported.


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Jeff Sessions and Trump should just admit that they're busting pot smokers because it's easier than deporting illegal alien "Dream Students", or confiscating guns.

BTW, deporting illegal aliens is Constitutionally mandated and legal, but confiscating guns and busting drug users is NOT.

The illegal NICS needs to be shut down!(1 image)

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#2. To: hondo68 (#0)

Trump ATF Seizes Guns and Automatic Weapons From Criminals Bought Under Sloppy & Careless Fast and Furious Holder-0bama Regime!

Why isn't THAT the headline??

Btw Hondo, conflating this seizure of AWs from lunatics, druggies, and criminals is NOT quite the same as seizing doobies and rolling paper.

You're fast moving in Willie Green mental-health territory.

Liberator  posted on  2017-12-05   21:09:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Liberator (#2)

You can not purchase AW, unless licensed through the BATF. The issue of this article is about lack of government oversight for anything besides AW.

Please stop confusing the issues, Liberator. You are becoming annoying.

buckeroo  posted on  2017-12-05   21:16:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: buckeroo (#3)

You can not purchase AW, unless licensed through the BATF. The issue of this article is about lack of government oversight for anything besides AW.

Earth to Buck:

What part of, "The purchasers include people with criminal records, mental health issues" did you miss?

0bama and Holder -- remember THEM? Recall their ill-fated sloppy operation, Fast & Furious? Naah, you don't Never mind.

Liberator  posted on  2017-12-05   21:20:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Liberator (#4)

0bama and Holder -- remember THEM? Recall their ill-fated sloppy operation, Fast & Furious? Naah, you don't Never mind.

You are stuck in LaLaLand; man, nothing is going to be revealed by you reminiscing about those lying bastards.

buckeroo  posted on  2017-12-05   21:26:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: buckeroo (#5)

Democrats and liberals shouldn't be allowed to own guns.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-12-06   6:37:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: A K A Stone (#14)

Democrats and liberals shouldn't be allowed to own guns.

How about libertarians? Any other group you'd like to disarm?

Deckard  posted on  2017-12-06   6:41:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Deckard (#15)

Only if you voted demo rat at least three times.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-12-06   6:44:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: A K A Stone (#16)

Only if you voted demo rat at least three times.

Seems arbitrary to me.

I know several life-long democrats up here and they are 100% pro-gun. Decent people too.

But what the heck, if you want to judge individuals by what label you give them - go for it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-12-06   6:54:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Deckard (#17)

I know several life-long democrats up here and they are 100% pro-gun. Decent people too.

I bet you rub elbows with many. lol

Get back in the fucking closet.

GrandIsland  posted on  2017-12-06   7:09:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: GrandIsland (#18) (Edited)

I bet you rub elbows with many.

Not really - I usually don't ask someone what their arbitrary label is.

Maybe that's because I'm not a hypercritical, judgemental and narrow-minded prick like you.

Frickin' clowns like you are what's keeping the country divided.

The truth is, there is no right or left. There is only right and wrong.

The party bosses and ardent followers would have you believe otherwise. They would have you believe that right is whatever particular party they belong to, and wrong is the political opposition. This might be true if the sides of today were genuine.

Instead, both parties and most mainstream organizations funnel into the same end result: total control. While the left and right bicker publicly on hot topics," the end result is the same, regardless of who is President, or who is in control of Congress. Less freedoms for individuals, less sovereignty for nations, losses of jobs through insane international agreements like NAFTA, the dilution of American culture, and the over extension of our military.

It's been said that if you don't like what the Republicans are doing, vote for the Democrats, and if you don't like what Democrats are doing, vote Republican. It's set up like a game. I have my favorite team, and you have yours. I'll back my team no matter what, just as long as your team doesn't win.

The problem is, both teams are full of scandalous figures who are so busy selling you and I out for their own personal gain, they have no time or desire to help our country in this time of need. While we Americans are busy cheering our favorite politicos and jeering our least favorites, both sides are pursuing the policy of the destruction of America.

Deckard  posted on  2017-12-06   7:26:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Deckard (#20)

Maybe that's because I'm not a hypercritical, judgemental and narrow-minded prick ...

Oh my sides …

Gatlin  posted on  2017-12-06   8:05:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Gatlin (#24)

hypercritical, judgemental and narrow-minded prick ...

Sorry, I forgot to ping you.

Deckard  posted on  2017-12-06   8:12:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Deckard, GrandIsland (#26)

hypercritical, judgemental [SIC] and narrow-minded prick ... Sorry, I forgot to ping you.
What you should be apologizing for is your hypercritical action when you recently publically chastised Grand Island for misspelling the word “loathe.”

And yet you, you hypercritical bastard, cannot even correctly spell the word judgmental which is something you as a narrow-minded prick try….try….to deny being.

What goes around comes around….eh?

Proclaim again to all of us and so everyone can see that you falsely deny being a:

… hypercritical, judgemental [SIC] and narrow-minded prick …

Gotcha …

Gatlin  posted on  2017-12-06   9:03:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Gatlin (#27)

...chastised Grand Island for misspelling the word “loathe.”

Liar - he used the incorrect word.

the word judgmental

I got the "mental" aspect correct - the both of you.

Anyways, the spell-check didn't flag "judgemental".

So why don't you just sod off you bloody tosser?

Deckard  posted on  2017-12-06   10:03:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Deckard (#28)

So why don't you just sod off you bloody tosser?

Nope ...

Gatlin  posted on  2017-12-06   11:18:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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