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Title: Couple Nearly Gives Birth in Car As Cop Holds Them on Roadside, Tickets Them for Rushing to Hospital
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Free Thought Project
URL Source: http://thefreethoughtproject.com/co ... ital-minutes-before-baby-born/
Published: Nov 16, 2017
Author: Rachel Blevins
Post Date: 2017-11-28 06:18:17 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 1396
Comments: 29
When a couple was pulled over for speeding in Lakewood, New Jersey, they explained to the officer that the wife was in labor, and they were on their way to the hospital—a logical emergency that would justify exceeding the speed limit. However, the officer responded by delaying the couple’s arrival and issuing the husband a citation for speeding. The couple, who has remained anonymous, told The Lakewood Scoop that when they were pulled over, the husband explained to the officer that he started out driving at the regular speed limit, but only increased his speed when his wife’s symptoms became urgent. “My pregnant wife had been to the doctor that day, and was told that as soon as labor begins she should rush to the hospital, since the baby will be born very quickly. That night labor began, so we immediately set out to Monmouth Medical Center driving at regular speed. While driving on Squankum Road. my wife told me she is starting to feel it is getting closer to birth. I became quite frantic, so I automatically picked up speed, without realizing I was going way over the speed limit.” A report from the Jersey Journal claimed that when the officer clocked the speed of the car, the husband was driving 78 mph in a 50-mph zone. The husband told TLS that he immediately pulled over, and explained to the officer that they were in an emergency situation, and had been instructed by a doctor to come to the hospital as soon as possible. “I respectfully explained that my wife is in advanced labor and I am headed to the hospital. I tried explaining the severity of the situation, but he cut me off without inquiring in what condition my wife is, and just asked for license and registration. We pleaded with him to please make it fast as we are in an emergency, but he answered curtly, sit tight.” The husband then claimed that the officer took his license and registration, and proceeded to hold the couple hostage for over 15 minutes, even though he was made aware of the wife’s critical condition. When the officer finally let the couple go to the hospital, the husband asked if he would escort them there, and the officer replied, “we don’t do these things.” “While stranded, my wife reached a critical point. I immediately started calling out, ‘officer, officer,’ and motioned with my hands, but he completely ignored me. He left me stranded close to 15 minutes while my wife was moaning away. Afterwards he gave me a speeding ticket. I then told him that my wife has reached a critical point, and asked if he could escort us to the hospital. He answered ‘we don’t do these things, but I can call an ambulance,’ which I declined saying I can do the same.” The couple concluded by writing that their baby was born almost immediately after they arrived at the hospital, “20 min. after the officer let us go.” In a statement provided to the Jersey Journal, the Howell Police Department was quick to defend the officer’s actions, and claimed that the “video evidence” of the encounter shows he acted appropriately. “We certainly understand how stressful the moments leading up to birth can be, especially on a woman, and we commend them for their respectful demeanor under the circumstances. However, the officer acted appropriately and any suggestion that the officer’s conduct was improper, unprofessional or inhumane simply contradicts the video evidence.” While the department did not specify as to whether the “video evidence” they referenced will be made public, the idea that a police officer would encounter a couple in labor and rushing to the hospital, insist that they delay their trip by nearly half an hour, and then refuse to escort them to the hospital in an emergency, shows that the officer in question was doing the opposite of “serving and protecting” the public, and he should be held accountable for his actions. Here is the Facebook page of the Howell Township Police department, if you’d like to peacefully express your thoughts on this matter to them. 
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#1. To: Deckard (#0)
The Howell Township Police Department is defending an officer who gave a speeding ticket to a Lakewood man who was driving 78 mph in a 50 mph zone as he took his pregnant wife to the hospital earlier this month. Police issued a statement and a shared a portion of the officer's body camera footage of the stop, after The Lakewood Scoop, published a story featuring a first- person account from the anonymous driver criticizing the stop. The headline on that story read, "SHOCKING: Howell police officer tickets Lakewood driver for speeding minutes before his child is born". But police contend there's more to the story, and that an internal review of video evidence shows the officer responded properly. On Nov. 14 at 11:57 p.m., a Howell police officer stopped a 2010 Toyota Sienna on Squankum Road (Route 547) between Maxim and Old Tavern roads for doing 78 mph in a 50 mph speed zone, Howell police said in a statement. As the officer approaches the vehicle, the driver tells the officer that his wife is in "advanced labor," according to police and the body camera video. The officer responds by asking the driver for his license, registration and insurance. After receiving the documents, the officer tells the driver he was doing "almost 80 mph." The driver then explains how he and his wife were in the doctor's office that morning and the "doctor just called" and told them to go to the hospital. "Alright, sit tight for a few minutes," the officer can be heard saying in the video. The officer returns to his patrol vehicle, fills out the ticket and then walks back to the car. As the officer approaches the vehicle, the driver can be seen with his head out of the vehicle and says something that is inaudible. According to the man's account published by The Lakewood Scoop, his wife "reached a critical point" and he was trying to signal that to the officer. The officer asks the couple if they'd like an ambulance and the couple responds by asking for a police escort instead. "No, we don't do that," the officer said. "That's what ambulances are for. That's why you're not supposed to be driving that fast." The officer asks again if the couple wants an ambulance to come to the vehicle, and the man's wife can be heard responding, but it's unclear from the body camera footage what she says. The officer then hands the ticket to the man and asks him again if he'd like an ambulance. "[Inaudible] ... We see there's something going on. She's not pushing yet, but she just broke her water," the driver says. The man's published account said the time it took from when the officer first approached his car until he handed him the ticket was "close to 15 minutes." Police contend the entire stop from start to finish lasted just over 9 minutes. The man said the baby was born 20 minutes after the officer let them go. The photo of the bracelet published by The Lakewood Scoop shows a date of Nov. 15 with the time being 12:35 a.m. However, it's unclear from the photo, which redacts information, if that's the time the baby was born or the time the woman was admitted to the hospital. "The interaction during the stop was polite and respectful. Both the operator of the vehicle, his pregnant wife and the officer were calm, respectful and courteous to one another," police said in a statement. "We certainly understand how stressful the moments leading up to birth can be, especially on a woman, and we commend them for their respectful demeanor under the circumstances. However, the officer acted appropriately and any suggestion that the officer's conduct was improper, unprofessional or inhumane simply contradicts the video evidence." It continues: "We are happy to hear the occupants arrived safely at the hospital and had a successful delivery. We wish them the best."
Uh, sorry. I live in the general area and know these people/scammers well. The COP. PROPERLY. DID. HIS. JOB. This was obviously no emergency.
Just to be clear, are you saying that you know the man & his wife, well ? Si vis pacem, para bellum Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. Never Pick A Fight With An Old Man He Will Just Shoot You He Can't Afford To Get Hurt "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers)
No, I know the demo in question of the so-called "victims." They are chewing up neighboring towns like parasitic locusts, using legal beagles the way the Mafia operates, dismissing and challenging through loopholes every established town ordinance and zoning. They are also separatist. This incident and reporting is a publicity stunt designed to garner sympathy.
Even ambulances don’t speed on an emergency run to the hospital. Why is that? Because: Speeding kills nearly as many people as drunk driving Oh….I understand.
“I've responded to several car accidents where someone was speeding through red lights to get a pregnant women to the hospital. In 3 of those cases both parents died. In most cases the baby died as the placenta was ripped from the uterine wall and blood flow and oxygen was cut off from the fetus who then essentially drowned in the uterus. It's just a colossally stupid idea to risk all that." [Source]
I do have to admit that in the released video, the man does not seem as distressed about his wife's condition as the write-up conveys. But it's also not the whole video, and yes, only the portion the police chose to release. Calling the ambulance would likely have resulted in a greater delay in getting the woman to the hospital, given they were apparently only a short distance from the hospital and already in a warmed up car, and the ambulance would need to make a round trip and also take the needed time transfer the woman into the ambulance. The cop could certainly have conducted an escort. The "we don't do that kind of thing" is an arrogant disregard for the public good. He could have done it. The cop could have escorted them to the hospital and THEN written him a ticket. That would have been the way to assist them and write the lawful ticket. And I don't believe for an instant that ambulances never speed during emergencies. If they didn't then following them would not be an infraction. It it truly was an emergency, simply driving off, leaving the scene and the cop and proceeding to the hospital would be an acceptable action. Deal with the medical emergency first, then deal with the cop. I believe some states do have provisions in their laws allowing dire circumstances to trump driving infractions, but even if they didn't, it's better to resolve a medical emergency immediately than to wait on a cop while someone is dying. Any reasonably jury should agree, and at worst, a guilty verdict would hardly be unanimous.
Can a cop, having stopped you for speeding, let you go after seeing that you're rushing your wife to the hospital to give birth? Yes, a cop can. But there is more to it than just letting you go. There are a few factors to consider:
You don’t rush to a hospital….many things can happen.
Despite all the TV shows that want to hype up this event, childbirth is not a medical emergency unless there are specific complications. If you don't think you have time to get to the hospital, call 911. Paramedics are well trained in child birth.
I'm guessing you've never given birth. Detaining a woman in labor so a cop can write up some paperwork is "not good" for the woman in labor.
However, my wife has given birth, and I was smart enough in all cases not to speed while driving her to the hospital. Realizing with my super intelligent mind….it would have been extremely dangerous to do so. Detaining a woman in labor is “better” than her being killed in a speeding accident. Another case why one should NOT to speed to the hospital: Car speeding to hospital crashes into truck; 4 killed .
Seems to me that once the cop had been informed that the woman was in labor he could have escorted the couple to the hospital at a "reasonable" rate of speed. Once they got her to the hospital, then he could have written the ticket. But this wasn't really about the couple's safety - it was about showing them who's boss. Seems to me that once the cop had been informed that the woman was in labor he could have escorted the couple to the hospital at a "reasonable" rate of speed. Once they got her to the hospital, then he could have written the ticket. But this wasn't really about the couple's safety - it was about showing them who's boss. BZZZT….WRONG. Because of liability exposure, most police departments have an expressed policy against “police escorts.” I can easily conceptualize an article TFTP would have written and you would have so proudly posted had the couple in this story become involved in an accident with the officer was escorting them. "KA-CHING" Say TEN MILLION DOLLAR LAWSUIT for me….asshole! Shania Twain - Ka-Ching! (Red Version): DeckTard, Don’t give up the day-job you have working for the Main Stream Media at the TV station. As poorly a job as you are no doubt doing there, you are still much better off than trying to advise cops how to perform their duties.
I guess that whole "Protect and Serve" motto is just....well - bullshit. ...he could have escorted the couple to the hospital at a "reasonable" rate of speed. What part of "at a reasonable rate of speed" do you not understand? And of course, no woman has ever died giving birth, ever. Right? *Everything* has happened and anyone can cite one single case of things going wrong to try to argue people should never do one particular thing, like speed to a hospital. Shall I cite a case of a woman dying while giving birth who would have lived if she had made it to the hospital in time? People die every day both from doing things they should not have done and not doing things they should have done. Your demonstrate shallow, 2 cent moral decision making.
And of course, you can cite me a single incident where a woman actually died giving birth while the vehicle in which she was traveling to the hospital was delayed for 9 minutes. Right? You are trying to make too big a deal out of nothing. Find me a case where any woman died because of a 9 minute delay in arriving at the hospital and I promise I will rethink the issue and give due consideration to your cop-hating bias.
The cop was protecting and serving all the people that the idiot father-to-be was endangering while speeding to the hospital. Did you not read the post about 4 people being killed because someone was speeding to the hospital? And actually, the cop was also protecting the couple and the unborn child he stopped. Did you not read the post where a father-to-be, the pregnant mother, and the unborn child were killed when they had an accident while speeding to the hospital? Nah, the “Protect and Serve” motto justly stands with pride, regardless of how much stink and shit you continue to try to warp situations and smear it.
I have much better things to do than to deal with your idiocy.
You should have known better than to engage with me. You should have remembered that I always rip your dumb ass apart with truth and logic. Right?
You should have remembered that I always rip your dumb ass apart with truth and logic. Winning!
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Gatlin's a legend in his own mind. Gee, isn't part of what makes America GREAT? The freedom to challenge authority? They are also separatist. Maybe you should call the F.B.I. on these dangerous "separatists" - then the Feebs could pull a Ruby Ridge on them. A legend is defined as “a story coming down from the past, especially on popularly regarded as historical although not verifiable.” Sonny boy, nothing I am doing or have done is coming down from the past. It is from here and now present….that means TODAY and the time immediately preceding today. Furthermore, a legend is a story popularly regarded as historical although no verifiable. I can attest to the FACT that everything I have ever done is definitely VERIFIABLE. You need to avoid the use of any cliché such as the one you used here. Clichés are phrases that have been used so often that they’re no longer very interesting or effective. You really do want to be interesting and effective….Don’t you? One would certainly hope so. The “legend in his own mind” cliché is so widely and indiscriminately overused that it has long lost its impact and has become abhorrently stale. Geeze….it is no wonder you are such a bore.
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You must be humor impaired. Have you been that way all of your life? Have you been that way all of your life? Sonny, I have never been impaired in any way throughout my entire life. Except of course for the eye trouble I developed not too long ago. And I am living well with that, thank you. What’s been your problem …
#2. To: Deckard (#0)
#3. To: Liberator (#2)
" I live in the general area and know these people/scammers well. "
#4. To: Stoner (#3)
Just to be clear, are you saying that you know the man & his wife, well ?
#5. To: Deckard (#0)
#6. To: Deckard (#0)
#7. To: Deckard (#0)
#8. To: Deckard (#0)
#9. To: Deckard (#0)
Driver rushing to hospital crashes; 2 teens killed.[Source]
#10. To: Deckard (#0)
#11. To: Gatlin (#8)
Letting him go to continue driving in an unsafe manner (i.e., his speeding) is not good for anyone; not him, the mother, the baby, or all the other mothers and babies out there using the same roads.
#12. To: Pinguinite (#11)
I'm guessing you've never given birth.
I’ll confirm your guessing is correct, I am a male and I have never given birth. Although a male can give, and has given, birth as in the case here, I still have not given birth. Detaining a woman in labor so a cop can write up some paperwork is "not good" for the woman in labor.
Since you are guessing, let me join you in guessing and then both of us can guess that the cop delaying the speeder for 9 minutes may have saved the lives of the mother, father and the baby since they could have been killed a short distance on down the road if father-to-be had continued speeding. It has happened….see Post #6.
#13. To: Pinguinite (#11)
Detaining a woman in labor so a cop can write up some paperwork is "not good" for the woman in labor.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#14. To: Deckard, Pinguinite (#13)
(Edited)
Detaining a woman in labor so a cop can write up some paperwork is "not good" for the woman in labor.
#15. To: Gatlin (#14)
(Edited)
Because of liability exposure, most police departments have an expressed policy against “police escorts.”
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#16. To: Gatlin (#12)
since they could have been killed a short distance on down the road if father-to-be had continued speeding. It has happened….see Post #6.
#17. To: Pinguinite (#16)
And of course, no woman has ever died giving birth, ever. Right?
Of course a woman has died giving birth, happens infrequently and it is unfortunate and tragic when it does happen.
#18. To: Deckard (#15)
I guess that whole "Protect and Serve" motto is just....well - bullshit.
Of course it is not just….well – bullshit. What part of "at a reasonable rate of speed" do you not understand?
I will answer that after you address my post and tell me what part of….”because of liability exposure, most police departments have an expressed policy against police escorts” at any speed -EVEN REASONABLE SPEED - don’t you understand.
#19. To: Gatlin (#17)
#20. To: Pinguinite (#19)
I have much better things to do than to deal with your idiocy.
Speaking of idiocy, as you just did….then why did you start the exchange.
#21. To: Gatlin (#20)
#22. To: Liberator (#4)
They are chewing up neighboring towns like parasitic locusts, using legal beagles the way the Mafia operates, dismissing and challenging through loopholes every established town ordinance and zoning.
#23. To: hondo68 (#21)
Winning!
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#24. To: Liberator (#4)
...dismissing and challenging through loopholes every established town ordinance and zoning.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#25. To: Deckard (#23)
(Edited)
Gatlin's a legend in his own mind.
#26. To: Gatlin (#25)
The “legend in his own mind” cliché is so widely and indiscriminately overused that it has long lost its impact and has become abhorrently stale.
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Eliminate quotations. As Ralph Waldo Emerson once said, “I hate quotations. Tell me what you know.” 1. Comparisons are as bad as cliches. Hopefully, you will use words correctly, irregardless of how others use them. 1. Eschew obfuscation. “Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#27. To: Deckard (#26)
How to Write Good
#28. To: Gatlin (#27)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#29. To: Deckard (#28)
(Edited)
You must be humor impaired.
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