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Title: Franken Reels After Thune Question on Senate Floor
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URL Source: http://newsmax.com/InsideCover/Fran ... re-Senate/2009/12/15/id/342731
Published: Dec 15, 2009
Author: ewsmax Staff
Post Date: 2009-12-15 18:26:39 by Happy Quanzaa
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Keywords: Franken, ObamaCare, stuck on socialized stupid
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Liberal blogs are buzzing about Al Franken's performance on the U.S. Senate floor, claiming that he "destroyed" Republican Sen. John Thune's contention that the Senate health bill triggers taxes before significant benefits. But the video shows a different story. During Franken's Senate floor speech, the Minnesota Democrat appears to be rambling, confused and shocked when Thune interrupts him to "yield for a question." Franken agrees to Thune's request and seems befuddled about Thune's point: The Democratic plan kicks in significant taxes almost immediately, with MOST of the Democratic healthcare plan "benefits" starting after 2013. Franken's performance was so dismal that the acting president of the Senate had to interrupt his rambling to remind him that he actually held the Senate floor. Other Democratic senators clearly wanted to assist the blustering Franken, with Ohio Democrat Sherrod Brown leading the charge. Brown deflected Thune's critical point to discuss Medicare. The Franken performance suggests that "Saturday Night Live" finally has found its way on to the U.S. Senate floor.
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#5. To: sneakypete (#2)
Ya gotta watch that at least a second time, Pete. Thune presented a simple chart (which apparently confused the hell outta Franken) and highlighted one simple claim: 18 days was the countdown until higher taxes start paying for this sh*tty fraud of a bill, of which MOST of the so-called "benefits" don't kick in until the year 2525, aka 2014. Thune couldn't "refute" this obtrusive, filibustering loon because Franken immediately turned Senate protocol into an SNL skit, vacillating between screeching like a coked out mental patient, and confused cuckoo. But then what should what should expect? "Senator" Al Franken is the Dem's designated Clown. As if the Senate Chamber wasn't already a joke, it's now a first class Freak Show as well. [Franken] is still too ignorant of the way things work to know he was lying. Franken has always been an ignorant, lying buffoon - you're giving him too much credit. BOTH of these men HAD to know the truth. Again, not much to fake here; Thune told the truth of the matter, the dopey Franken engaged in nothing but lame diversionary smoke and mirrors tactics. This insanely FAT-ASS health bill back-ends MOST of the bennies and front-ends the payment. This is like being forced to pay for a converted crackhouse in Camden, NJ for a million bucks, only to find out the deed restricts your use of it to the front stoop.
Other Democratic senators clearly wanted to assist the blustering Franken, with Ohio Democrat Sherrod Brown leading the charge. Isn't it embarrassing enough to We the People enough that there's an actual "Senator" Al Franken? My God. The clueless Franken actually needed Brown to babysit him. I say it's time Gallagher and his watermelon run for the Senate.
"Senator" Gallagher who would immediately bring about a more serious air to the US Senate chamber now that there's a "Senator" Al Franken:
Another ACORN Obama clown in government raping the Republic
Given the number of "Watermelons" in congress A Gallagher campaign to hammer the commie bass turds Might actually get legs
Not really, look at his predecessors and contemporaries, Kennedy, Schumer, Boxer, Feinstein, Clinton, McCain, Graham, Lautenberg, Durbin, etc.
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
the whole thing is a lying POS S C A M Just like their global warming bull shiite The money will be stolen starting day one and guaranteed no one except those vetted by the ACORN shock troops who will run this giant abortion are going to see any health care This health care is like their tami flu shot Full of poisoness crap that NONE of the elite are taking as they get "special care" that we pay for but will get none of.. Hell half America who pays for this won't get even the worst health care... that will go to the 80 million illegal aliens they will be bringing in and naturalizing soon enough..
dont forget Barney Fag.....Magic Bullet Arlyn Spector...the list is endless
Might actually get legs Time for a serious, sober Senator. Gallagher and his hammer will counter-balance Franken and his sickle. How bout that? :-) "Senator" Gallagher could emphasize his rebuttals to Dim Senators by first smashing a watermelon with a sledgehammer. Works for me.
What was I thinkin'? Franken was actually more of THE SAME.
Oh yea...Franken was REAL befuddled and confused... [snicker]
No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...
Sometimes you have moments of clarity that absolutely stun me. Then there's the other times...
No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...
Just like their global warming bull shiite The money will be stolen starting day one and guaranteed no one except those vetted by the ACORN shock troops who will run this giant abortion are going to see any health care Joe, we need YOU in the Senate... Can't ONE single Senator articulate things EXACTLY as you have?? Why is the GOP pussy-footing around the obvious?? TELL IT LIKE IT IS! Stop this "my friend on the other side of the aisle" bullsh*t. Full of poisoness crap that NONE of the elite are taking as they get "special care" that we pay for but will get none of.. Hell half America who pays for this won't get even the worst health care... that will go to the 80 million illegal aliens they will be bringing in and naturalizing soon enough.. Well, isn't this what it's all about? Money-laundering hundreds of billions thru subversive groups like ACORN and a thousand different buried Dem, Bank, Elite front-groups? As though TARP and the "Stimulus" Scams didn't siphon every last penny we own into their pockets?? And then there's the subsidizing of 35 million Illegals' health care (the "new" Dem constituency?) Of course the Elites won't have to stand in the 0bamacare "breadline." They will retain their Platinum Grade PamperCare.
[snicker] LOL - are YOU shittin' me? Goofball Franken's bong most certainly was devoid of ANY "stems and seeds" after that skit...er...I mean...clownish performance. All he needed was a propeller hat and Bozo horn.
Franken is a fookin stooge! He even looks like one ! What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
Exactly! Call a queer a faggot and a liberal, lying scum. This PC crap is killing this nation.
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
The "Senator" making the ONLY kind of "point" he's qualified to make. Franken: "He [Thune] just said....(duh)...that nothing we were paying for...starts until 1800 days from now...[it's] starting Day One....he doesn't want to hear it." Franken is a liar. Franken put words in Thune's mouth. Franken is confused. Then Franken made up his OWN "facts." Then Lorne Michael said "CUT!!" Franken also claimed MOST of the benefits of this multi-trillion dollar bullsh*t begin "Day One." HUH?? Lol, how much horsesh*t must we endure from this nitwit?
Do NOT besmirch the integrity of any of The Three Stooges. Franken is more in the category of Stimpy:
*covers gasp* oh my!
Hmmm...Could a House member refer to - say Barney Frank - as a "flamer" or homo" (abbreviated "homosexual"?) "Faggot" could be construed as slightly offensive ;-) OTOH, "lying scum" IS acceptable truth. Yep, the PC-crap is killing us.
Well, welcome, Diva... I was just about to put out a bowl of chips and dip.
Those guys look like they're SEIU employees.
Excellent. YUM. Cold beer too, right? I will have me a Sammy Adams. ;) (Thanks Lib!!)
Good memory :-)
:) I always remember a man's beer of preference.
What the H is it with "Min-knee-SO- ta"? Is their something in the water? I know alot of folks FROM there, and they are all rock solid. Maybe all of the sane folks left? Their ex-governor feather boa ... Then Franken? as SENATOR? What the H is it with "Min-knee-SO- ta"? Yikes!!!!!
Esse Quam Videri.
They both told partial truths and partial lies,but Franken was more effective at getting his across. There IS no disputing that some of the benefits in the bill will become effective on Day One. Franken wasn't lying about this,and Thune couldn't refute his claim. Of course,Franken was lying in the sense that even though those things will take effect on Day One,the money to pay for them won't be there until 2014. If then. THIS is why Franken kicked his ass. Thune SHOULD have pointed that out,but didn't. As I've said before,bread and circuses. Games played to distract the rubes on both sides of the aisle.
You're only stunned because somebody isn't playing partisan games like you do.
Oh,it's worse than that. It is always "My GOOD friend from the other side of the aisle",and sometimes "My good friend and esteemed colleague......" Ain't a single SOB in the US Senated "Esteemed". You could hang any fifty of them at random on any given day,and sleep the sleep of the just that night because you will have done you did a good deed
LOTS of people live there with Scandinavian genes,and for some reason most Scandinavians seem to be in love with socialism.
The money collected will be spent as quickly as received and when the program starts will already be trillions in the fole. Lets get real. Destruction of the existing economic system is the goal here.
Pete, it is hard for any member of congress to concentrate while counting their share of the skim money from all the spending. Can't have them being shorted by a million or two and they can't trust the powers to be to be honest in the distribution of the skim money, so franken, snowe, and the rest are really having a hard time focusing on facts. You have to forgive them after all they have their priorities.
You do have a point,there. You have to forgive them after all they have their priorities. Ok,I'll work on that. Don't hold your breath until it happens,though.
Are you kidding? Half of it is already promised to selected groups and individuals to pay them to do studies and publish findings on the most effective way to spend the money. The other half is reserved for paying the law firms to handle the resulting lawsuits.
sp; LOTS of people live there with Scandinavian genes,and for some reason most Scandinavians seem to be in love with socialism. Although I do believe that is largely true, ALL of the people who I know from there are of that same ethnic background and they are without exception rock solid traditional American individuals. I think that it is a similar situation to Europe after all of the twentieth century WARS, which killed the generations of actual MEN and left nothing but the drones. Or it might be something in the water?
Esse Quam Videri.
I don't believe Thune ever claimed NO benefits would kick in imediately; Just that "much" or "many" of the bennies wouldn't kick in immediately - which absolutely true. Franken just made sh*t up and was extremely "effective" at being a loud, obnoxious clown who kept moving the goal posts. He's the Senate's Barney Frank, except Frank is far more convincing when he bullsh*ts. If Thune seemed hapless it's because he was stunned at the Franken's accusatory buffoonery and purposely quirky way of he questioned Thune. Franken also managed the last word due to Chamber rules. Of course,Franken was lying in the sense that even though those things will take effect on Day One,the money to pay for them won't be there until 2014. If then. Again, MOST of what was proposed won't kick in immediately, and yes, Franken lied through his teeth about the revenue to pay for the 'Free 0bamaCare For Mexicans Act of 2010.' THIS is why Franken kicked his ass. Thune SHOULD have pointed that out,but didn't. How do you refute a half-dozen purposely confused charges from a Designated Deranged Doofus(D) in a couple of minutes? As I've said before,bread and circuses. Games played to distract the rubes on both sides of the aisle. Generally true... But this issue is too crucial to have election thief and ACORN beneficiary Al Franken decide what's "The Truth." This is one Big-Ass Circus we can't afford.
I'm getting all goo-goo eyed thinking about with those kind of dreamy fantasies...
Yep. The goal is clear. As though TARP, the 'Stimulus' Bill did bury us in the red quite enough? Now which Pubbies are explaining this boodoggle in that manner?? I believe there was actually one or two who briefly called 0bamaCare "crap," but let that bone go almost immediately.
That's good, Bob. True dat, Homes.
How long has Thune been a professional politician,and a Senator? How long has Franken been a professional politician and a Senator? If Thune couldn't handle this newby,his ass was kicked. I am no friend of Franken,but Thune didn't show me squat. All he has was that lame sign,a partial truth,and no response to what SHOULD have been expected questions. Tell me this,if both you and I understand that no matter WHAT takes effect on Day One it won't happen until it is funded in 2014,why didn't Thune,a US Senator understand this and be ready to use it to refute what Franken claimed?
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestSeems to me like Franken did kick his ass by listing a few benefits that ARE scheduled to start on "Day One",and Thune couldn't refute him on these claims.
#6. To: Happy Quanzaa (#0)
Franken's performance was so dismal that the acting president of the Senate had to interrupt his rambling to remind him that he actually held the Senate floor.
#7. To: All (#6)
#8. To: Happy Quanzaa (#0)
#9. To: Liberator (#6)
I say it's time Gallagher and his watermelon run for the Senate.
#10. To: Liberator (#6)
Isn't it embarrassing enough to We the People enough that there's an actual "Senator" Al Franken?
#11. To: Liberator (#5)
18 days was the countdown until higher taxes start paying for this sh*tty fraud of a bill, of which MOST of the so-called "benefits" don't kick in until the year 2525, aka 2014.
#12. To: Ibluafartsky (#10)
Not really, look at his predecessors and contemporaries, Kennedy, Schumer, Boxer, Feinstein, Clinton, McCain, Graham, Lautenberg, Durbin, etc.
#13. To: Joe Snuffy (#9)
A Gallagher campaign to hammer the commie bass turds
#14. To: Ibluafartsky (#10)
Look at his [Franken's] predecessors and contemporaries, Kennedy, Schumer, Boxer, Feinstein, Clinton, McCain, Graham, Lautenberg, Durbin, etc.
#15. To: Happy Quanzaa (#0)
#16. To: sneakypete (#2)
#17. To: Joe Snuffy (#11)
the whole thing is a lying POS S C A M
#18. To: war (#15)
Oh yea...Franken was REAL befuddled and confused...
#19. To: war (#15)
Franken was REAL befuddled and confused...
#20. To: Liberator (#17)
Elites
#21. To: Liberator (#17)
TELL IT LIKE IT IS! Stop this "my friend on the other side of the aisle" bullsh*t.
#22. To: war (#15)
#23. To: Ibluafartsky (#19)
Franken is a fookin stooge! He even looks like one !
#24. To: BorisY (#4)
#25. To: Ibluafartsky (#21)
Exactly! Call a queer a faggot and a liberal, lying scum. This PC crap is killing this nation.
#26. To: diva betsy ross (#24)
#27. To: Thor (#20)
#28. To: Liberator (#26)
#29. To: diva betsy ross (#28)
I will have me a Sammy Adams. ;)
#30. To: Liberator (#29)
#31. To: Happy Quanzaa (#0)
#32. To: Liberator (#5)
(Edited)
Again, not much to fake here; Thune told the truth of the matter, the dopey Franken engaged in nothing but lame diversionary smoke and mirrors tactics.
#33. To: war (#16)
Sometimes you have moments of clarity that absolutely stun me.
#34. To: Ibluafartsky (#21)
TELL IT LIKE IT IS! Stop this "my friend on the other side of the aisle" bullsh*t.
#35. To: Mad Dog (#31)
What the H is it with "Min-knee-SO- ta"?
#36. To: Liberator (#5)
#37. To: sneakypete (#2)
#38. To: BobCeleste (#37)
Pete, it is hard for any member of congress to concentrate while counting their share of the skim money from all the spending.
#39. To: jtidsguy (#36)
The money collected will be spent as quickly as received
#40. To: sneakypete (#35)
MD; What the H is it with "Min-knee-SO- ta"?
#41. To: sneakypete (#32)
They both told partial truths and partial lies,but Franken was more effective at getting his across. There IS no disputing that some of the benefits in the bill will become effective on Day One. Franken wasn't lying about this,and Thune couldn't refute his claim.
#42. To: sneakypete (#34)
You could hang any fifty of them at random on any given day,and sleep the sleep of the just that night because you will have done you did a good deed
#43. To: jtidsguy (#36)
The money collected will be spent as quickly as received and when the program starts will already be trillions in the fole. Lets get real. Destruction of the existing economic system is the goal here.
#44. To: BobCeleste, sneakypete (#37)
Pete, it is hard for any member of congress to concentrate while counting their share of the skim money from all the spending. Can't have them being shorted by a million or two and they can't trust the powers to be to be honest in the distribution of the skim money, so franken, snowe, and the rest are really having a hard time focusing on facts.
#45. To: Liberator (#41)
How do you refute a half-dozen purposely confused charges from a Designated Deranged Doofus(D) in a couple of minutes?
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