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Title: Grim cost predicted in effort to destroy North Korea's nukes
Source: Yahoo News / Associated Press
URL Source: https://www.yahoo.com/news/grim-cos ... nukes-033721436--politics.html
Published: Nov 5, 2017
Author: AP
Post Date: 2017-11-05 19:11:41 by A Pole
Keywords: war, Korea, China
Views: 671
Comments: 16

The only way to locate and destroy with complete certainty all components of North Korea's nuclear weapons program is through a ground invasion. That blunt assessment from the Pentagon is in response to a letter from two Democratic congressmen asking about casualty assessments in a conflict with North Korea.

Rear Adm. Michael J. Dumont of the Joint Staff offered the assessment in response to a letter from Reps. Ted Lieu of California and Ruben Gallego of Arizona.

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In a joint statement issued Saturday, 15 Democratic lawmakers and one Republican— all military veterans — called the assessment that a ground invasion would be required to destroy the North's nuclear arsenal "deeply disturbing" and that such an action "could result in hundreds of thousands, or even millions of deaths in just the first few days of fighting."

"It is our intent to have a full public accounting of the potential cost of war, so the American people understand the commitment we would be making as a nation if we were to pursue military action," the lawmakers said.

[...]

They also said the Trump administration "has failed to articulate any plans to prevent the military conflict from expanding beyond the Korean Peninsula and to manage what happens after the conflict is over."

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#3. To: A Pole (#0) (Edited)

The only way to locate and destroy with complete certainty all components of North Korea's nuclear weapons program is through a ground invasion. That blunt assessment from the Pentagon is in response to a letter from two Democratic congressmen asking about casualty assessments in a conflict with North Korea.

No,that might be the STUPIDEST way,or the least effective way,but it's certainly not the most effective or life-conscious way.

The best way to do it with the least expense in either money or human life is to organize and pay for a coup to depose him and execute him.

They most likely asked some senior Army staff officer that has never heard a shot fired,and like a 8 year old boy with a hammer that sees everything as a nail,that SOB sees everything as a huge tactical military operation that will cover him in glory for his planning.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-11-06   17:14:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: sneakypete (#3)

The best way to do it with the least expense in either money or human life is to organize and pay for a coup to depose him and execute him.

Perhaps. But they remeber how Americans destroyed all cities with carpet bombings and killed 1/4 of population. Imagine 70 million of Americans and all cities levelled down. The chance for Communist coup would be minimal.

A Pole  posted on  2017-11-06   18:35:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: A Pole (#4)

Perhaps. But they remeber how Americans destroyed all cities with carpet bombings and killed 1/4 of population.

When was this? Wasn't it after THEY moved into South Korean and were executing women and children along the way?

sneakypete  posted on  2017-11-07   0:37:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: sneakypete (#5) (Edited)

"Perhaps. But they remeber how Americans destroyed all cities with carpet bombings and killed 1/4 of population."

When was this? Wasn't it after THEY moved into South Korean and were executing women and children along the way?

Yes, it was when anti-Japanese Communists were building their state in the north and Americans in south were carving a right wing regime based on Japanese collaborators and few long time expats. Remember, even after the armistice in 1953, the South was not a cuddly democracy.

Either way, my point is - how the Koreans in the north who remember vividly their 1950s sufferings and almost genocide, feel about Trump threatening to "totally destroy North Korea" or that "North Korea will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen"? (PLEASE, understand me well, I want to focus on their perception, not on who is good or bad.)

I am sure NK regime did not neglect to play those statements above, mixed with 1950s footage etc, (samples below), on TV in prime time for several days.


This episode details the UN bombing campaign over North Korea and the results for the people on the ground. The majority of civillians killed in the Korean War were killed in North Korea by air attack. This segment on the bombing of North Korea was censored from the US version of this documentary.

A Pole  posted on  2017-11-07   5:40:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: A Pole (#6)

I am sure NK regime did not neglect to play those statements above, mixed with 1950s footage etc, (samples below), on TV in prime time for several days.

I'm sure they did too,and I am also sure it means nothing because NK is a communist police state,and the people are their slaves.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-11-09   8:59:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: sneakypete (#7)

I'm sure they did too,and I am also sure it means nothing because NK is a communist police state,and the people are their slaves.

It means a lot. It might mean that NK people will put a stiff resistance and fight back. Might ...

A Pole  posted on  2017-11-09   17:47:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: A Pole, Y'ALL (#8)

sneakypete (#5) (Edited --- When was this? Wasn't it after THEY moved into South Korean and were executing women and children along the way?

Yes, it was when anti-Japanese Communists were building their state in the north and Americans in south were carving a right wing regime based on Japanese collaborators and few long time expats. Remember, even after the armistice in 1953, the South was not a cuddly democracy. --- Either way, my point is - how the Koreans in the north who remember vividly their 1950s sufferings and almost genocide, ---- A pole

Are you trying to claim the NKoreans/Chinese weren't the aggressors, and didn't damn near win the war twice? Our bombing helped us to achieve an armistice, and the North deserved everything they got.

tpaine  posted on  2017-11-09   18:37:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: tpaine (#9)

Are you trying to claim the NKoreans/Chinese weren't the aggressors, and didn't damn near win the war twice?

No. How the HELL did you come to that conclusion?

sneakypete  posted on  2017-11-09   18:57:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: sneakypete (#10)

Yes, it was when anti-Japanese Communists were building their state in the north and Americans in south were carving a right wing regime based on Japanese collaborators and few long time expats. Remember, even after the armistice in 1953, the South was not a cuddly democracy. --- Either way, my point is - how the Koreans in the north who remember vividly their 1950s sufferings and almost genocide, ---- A pole

Are you trying to claim the NKoreans/Chinese weren't the aggressors, and didn't damn near win the war twice? Our bombing helped us to achieve an armistice, and the North deserved everything they got.

I addressed that comment to what A Pole said

If you're talking about 'twice'.. They had us cornered at first down south, when we could have lost, and again when the Chinese came over the border. --- It was close to being a rout in both instances, from what I've been told..

I served with quite a few Korean war combat vets, during 55/58, and that war was no cakewalk.

tpaine  posted on  2017-11-09   19:19:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: tpaine (#11)

I addressed that comment to what A Pole said

OK. Since you quoted me in the body of your reply,I was assuming you were addressing me.

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