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Title: At least 20 feared dead in mass shooting at Texas church
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Published: Nov 5, 2017
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Post Date: 2017-11-05 16:44:17 by tpaine
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At least 20 feared dead in mass shooting at Texas church

By Nicole Darrah

Published November 05, 2017 FoxNews.com At least 20 people are feared dead in Texas after a gunman opened fire at a church outside San Antonio on Sunday, Fox News has learned.

The mass shooting was reported at First Baptist Church of Sutherland Springs, which is about 30 miles southeast of San Antonio. The gunman has been fatally shot by police.

Wilson County Commissioner Larry Wiley told Fox News that an emergency responder said between 20 and 24 people are dead, and around 20 were wounded when a man walked into the church about 11:30 a.m. on Sunday and opened fire at the crowd of people.

Emergency personnel respond to a fatal shooting at a Baptist church in Sutherland Springs, Texas, Sunday, Nov. 5, 2017. (KSAT via AP) Emergency personnel respond to a fatal shooting at a Baptist church in Sutherland Springs, Texas, Sunday, Nov. 5, 2017. (KSAT via AP)

If the number of people dead is confirmed, Sunday's shooting would be the deadlist in modern U.S. history.

"It is horrible," Wiley said of the massacre, the motive of which is unknown. "It appears someone walked in and started shooting."

The church's pastor, Frank Pomeroy, said his 14-year-old daughter was killing in the shooting, according to ABC News.

Bryan Llenas shares latest information known about Texas church shooting victims.Video Victims transported to hospitals after Texas church shooting "We have accepted a multiple number of patients from the shooting," Megan Posey, a spokeswoman for Connally Memorial Medical Center in Floresville, 15 miles from church, told Fox News. She said she did not have a specific number. She said doctors were assessing the patients.

Some victims were transported to Brooke Army Medical Center in San Antonio, KSAT reported.

Helicopters and emergency personnel were seen arriving at the scene. The FBI is also on scene.

The gunman, according to Wiley, was killed roughly five miles away in Guadalupe County after being cornered by deputies.

"This is horrific for our tiny little tight-knit town," Alena Berlanga, who lives 10 minutes outside of Sutherland Springs told The Associated Press. "Everybody's going to be affected and everybody knows someone who's affected."

Law enforcement officials stand next to a covered body at the scene of a fatal shooting at the First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, Texas, on Sunday, Nov. 5, 2017. (Nick Wagner/Austin American-Statesman via AP) Law enforcement officials stand next to a covered body at the scene of a fatal shooting at the First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, Texas, on Sunday, Nov. 5, 2017. (Nick Wagner/Austin American-Statesman via AP)

President Trump, who's currently traveling in Asia, tweeted: "May God be w/ the people of Sutherland Springs, Texas. The FBI & law enforcement are on the scene. I am monitoring the situation from Japan."

TRUMP, POLITICIANS REACT TO TEXAS CHURCH SHOOTING

Texas Governor Greg Abbott said in a statement that "While the details of this horrific act are still under investigation, Cecilia and I want to send our sincerest thoughts and prayers to all those who have been affected by this evil act."

"I want to thank law enforcement for their response and ask that all Texans pray for the Sutherland Springs community during this time of mourning and loss," the statement read.

Sutherland Springs has a population of about 400 residents.

Sunday's shooting comes just over a month after 58 people were killed and hundreds injured on Oct. 1 after a gunman opened fire on a country music festival in Las Vegas.

This is a developing story. Check back for updates. Fox News' Robert Gearty and Jake Gibson contributed to this report.

Nicole Darrah covers breaking news for Fox News. Follow her on Twitter @nicoledarrah.

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#25. To: Pinguinite (#0)

What's your initial feel on this incident?

I realize there's always speculation and there's still a lot to consider.

Still digesting?

Liberator  posted on  2017-11-06   12:01:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Liberator (#25)

What's your initial feel on this incident?

You mean, of course, how I feel about what I've read about this incident. For all of us, we can only go by the reports.

If true he was a Muslim convert and Antifa member, it seems he may have been inspired by Antifa to engage in violence, and Islam for where to do it. The Vegas shooting probably served as a model and and example for him -- go where there are crowds of people closely packed together. While successful, he chose Texas where lots of people have guns which appears to have been to his ultimate undoing.

He probably crashed his car while escaping because he was losing blood on the way and lost consciousness behind the wheel. Latest reports are he had a hostage with him while escaping who seems was not seriously injured (and fortunately not shot by the pursuing armed civ). That account should be explained a bit.

That's my take.

That an armed civ took this guy down is not good for the gun grabbing establishment, so that would play against any false flag here (not that I'm first to jump on that bandwagon -- far from it).

All in all, I don't yet see any reason for this to be much anything more than has been reported: A lone guy with a violent ideological agenda.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-11-06   12:49:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Pinguinite (#26)

You mean, of course, how I feel about what I've read about this incident. For all of us, we can only go by the reports.

First, thanks for weighing in...

That's where this always gets tricky.

It's essential that we consider independent investigative reports, eyewitness accounts, and aggregate sources....

IF we leave the investigating to the Usual MSM Suspects, we'll never get anywhere.

If true he was a Muslim convert and Antifa member, it seems he may have been inspired by Antifa to engage in violence, and Islam for where to do it.

The Vegas shooting probably served as a model and and example for him -- go where there are crowds of people closely packed together. While successful, he chose Texas where lots of people have guns which appears to have been to his ultimate undoing.

Good insight. I agree.

At minimum, Kelley WAS inspired and emboldened by the Mandalay shooting Op. The NYC Muzzie mow-down; My fear, our fear is always the "Copycat". How many insane hateful progs are at this very moment plotting and planning? The Prog-Antifa hive mindset is very similar to that of Muzzies.

Yes, isn't it interesting in that although the cowardly punk got away with shooting babies point-black as well as other worshiper, an armed Texan made him pay with his life?

We have to presume nearly every church in Texas will now be armed to the teeth. This slaughter merely hardened the resolve of pro-2A Americans.

He probably crashed his car while escaping because he was losing blood on the way and lost consciousness behind the wheel. Latest reports are he had a hostage with him while escaping who seems was not seriously injured (and fortunately not shot by the pursuing armed civ). That account should be explained a bit.

That's my take.

I haven't followed up on the account....But yes, it's a minor miracle that one of our heroes was careful and adept enough to take down the perp without him or the crash seriously harming the hostage. I'd heard one of the vigilantes was an NRA instructor.

That an armed civ took this guy down is not good for the gun grabbing establishment, so that would play against any false flag here (not that I'm first to jump on that bandwagon -- far from it).

Again, I agree. Even I am discounting a direct False Flag in this case...

THAT said, a case CAN be made that 0bama's AF and feral officials purposely allowed Kelley and his insane ilk to BUY GUNS. Why? Let's recall the Fast & Furious Op that was designed exactly to do what Kelley did; Shoot up Americans and become a catalyst for an anti-2A crusade (we are already predictably seeing this, especially on the heels of Mandalay.)

The MSM is mostly mum about whose fault it is that Kelley purchased guns to begin with. 0bama and HIS machination.

All in all, I don't yet see any reason for this to be much anything more than has been reported: A lone guy with a violent ideological agenda.

Here I disagree.

The MSM, Dems' Hollywood and Academe's propagandized Campaign-of-Hate against Trump, Republicans, Whites, Straights, Christians, and Conservatives has bore fruit. Rotten fruit.

This "lone guy" is only the tip of the iceberg.

With many 0bama-holdovers/Statists still deeply entrenched within several positions of power, many of us speculate that the country has been booby-trapped. ONE way to do so is...exactly what we've seen -- aiding and abetting the hateful insane to act out AGAINST conservatives.

Liberator  posted on  2017-11-08   10:00:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Liberator (#35)

I haven't followed up on the account....But yes, it's a minor miracle that one of our heroes was careful and adept enough to take down the perp without him or the crash seriously harming the hostage. I'd heard one of the vigilantes was an NRA instructor.

I listened to an interview of the guy that engaged the shooter. He gave his full account of what happened, including the police arrival after the crash. There was zero mention of any hostage so it's safe to say that was a false report.

Yes, he was an NRA rifle instructor, and did everything he did while barefoot. He and the assisting driver that pursued him stopped him with no police assist at all. It was just one man with a rifle and a second man with a pickup. The whole event definitely shows the power of what one can do with a rifle, whether for evil or for stopping same.

Only other update: The shooter knew the church and some of the congregation. One of the victims was, in fact, his wife's grandmother. So it may not have been religiously motivated, or only partially so.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-11-09   11:18:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#41. To: Pinguinite (#40) (Edited)

Yes, he was an NRA rifle instructor, and did everything he did while barefoot.

He and the assisting driver that pursued him stopped him with no police assist at all. It was just one man with a rifle and a second man with a pickup. The whole event definitely shows the power of what one can do with a rifle, whether for evil or for stopping same.

You underscored a couple of important observations and points.

You also underscore the REAL reason for "gun control": COMPLETE CONTROL OF CONSERVATIVES (so the elites have a clear path to enslavement and their One World Gubmint, as in Europe.)

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