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The Establishments war on Donald Trump
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Title: US court bars Trump from reversing transgender troops policy
Source: SF Chronicle
URL Source: http://www.sfchronicle.com/news/art ... rsing-transgender-12317392.php
Published: Oct 30, 2017
Author: David Crary and Jessica Gresko, Associat
Post Date: 2017-10-30 20:22:54 by cranky
Keywords: None
Views: 1035
Comments: 15

A federal judge on Monday barred President Donald Trump's administration from proceeding with plans to exclude transgender people from military service.

U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly ruled that the transgender service members who had sued over Trump's policy were likely to win their lawsuit. She directed a return to the situation that existed before Trump announced his new policy this summer, saying the administration had provided no solid evidence for why a ban should be implemented.

Trump had ordered a reinstatement of the longstanding policy that barred transgender individuals from joining the military; service members who were revealed to be transgender were subject to discharge. Under President Barack Obama, that policy was changed last year to allow transgender people to serve openly.

The Trump administration may appeal Kollar-Kotelly's decision, but for now, the proposed ban remains unenforceable under Kollar-Kotelly's preliminary injunction.

"We disagree with the court's ruling and are currently evaluating the next steps," said Justice Department spokesman Lauren Ehrsam.

She reiterated the department's view that the lawsuit was premature because the Pentagon was still in the process of reviewing how the transgender policy might evolve.

One of the attorneys handling the lawsuit, Shannon Minter of the National Center for Lesbian Rights, said the ruling was an enormous relief to his clients.

"Their lives have been devastated since Trump first tweeted he was reinstating the ban," Minter said. "They are now able to serve on equal terms with everyone else."

Trump announced on Twitter in July that the government "will not accept or allow transgender individuals to serve in any capacity in the U.S. Military." He followed with an August memo directing the Pentagon to extend indefinitely a ban on transgender individuals joining the military, and gave Defense Secretary Jim Mattis six months to come up with a policy on "how to address" those who are currently serving.

Under the Obama administration, the Department of Defense had announced in 2016 that service members could not be discharged solely based on their gender identity. Transgender individuals were to be allowed to enlist in the military in June 2017, a timeline initially delayed under the Trump administration to Jan. 1, 2018.

Minter said the new court ruling means they will be able to enlist as of that date.

The Trump administration had asked the court to dismiss the lawsuit; Kollar-Kotelly refused to do so, and Minter said it's possible the case will go to trial.

One issue not directly addressed in Monday's ruling was whether federal funds should be used to pay for sexual reassignment surgeries for members of the military. The administration has sought to prohibit such payments; Kollar-Kotelly said she didn't have jurisdiction to rule on the issue because none of the plaintiffs in the case established a likelihood of being impacted by that prohibition.

The lawsuit was filed in August by the National Center for Lesbian Rights and GLBTQ Legal Advocates & Defenders (GLAD) on behalf of eight transgender individuals, including service members in the Air Force, Coast Guard and the Army, as well as students at the U.S. Naval Academy and in the ROTC program at the University of New Haven.

The Justice Department, in seeking the lawsuit's dismissal, said none of the plaintiffs had established that they will be impacted by current policies on military service.

The two advocacy groups who filed the lawsuit assailed that assertion. They highlighted the uncertainty facing Regan Kibby, the transgender Naval Academy student who — because of Trump's action — was unsure whether he would be able to join the Navy on graduation.

Kollar-Kotelly said the plaintiffs clearly established that they would be harmed by the administration's directives. She also contended that the plaintiffs were likely to prevail in arguing that the directives were unconstitutionally discriminatory — targeting transgender people without evidence that their service caused substantive problems for the military.

The directives "do not appear to be supported by any facts," the judge wrote.

Other lawsuits challenging president's directive have been filed in Seattle and Baltimore.

Oral arguments are scheduled Nov. 9 for the Baltimore lawsuit, which was filed by the American Civil Liberties Union on behalf of six transgender service members.

"The federal courts are recognizing what everyone already knows to be true: President Trump's impulsive decision to ban on transgender people from serving in the military service was blatantly unconstitutional," said Joshua Block, senior staff attorney with the ACLU's LGBT & HIV Project.

The Pentagon has not released data on the number of transgender people currently serving, but a Rand Corp. study has estimated between 1,320 and 6,630, out of 1.3 million active-duty troops.

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#1. To: cranky (#0)

Simple solution. As Commander in Chief Trump can order the service chiefs to cut off funding for gender surgeries and therapies. He can direct that if one is biologically a certain sex they must meet physical and appearance standards for that sex.

All can be done by ORDERING the service chiefs to do what the CINC wants.

Too simple.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-10-30   21:22:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: cranky (#0)

US court bars Trump from reversing transgender troops policy

This is one sick country.

rlk  posted on  2017-10-30   22:03:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: redleghunter (#1)

" Simple solution. As Commander in Chief Trump can order the service chiefs to cut off funding for gender surgeries and therapies. He can direct that if one is biologically a certain sex they must meet physical and appearance standards for that sex.

All can be done by ORDERING the service chiefs to do what the CINC wants. "

Agree, but they will probably find a liberal judge that will oppose that. We need to eliminate a bunch of the liberal judges.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Never Pick A Fight With An Old Man He Will Just Shoot You He Can't Afford To Get Hurt

"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers)

Stoner  posted on  2017-10-30   22:26:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: rlk (#2)

This is one sick country.

Yep.  And that didn't happen by accident:
 
psy·cho·sis
s+ÈkMsYs/
noun
  1. a severe mental disorder in which thought and emotions are so impaired that contact is lost with external reality.
  2.  
  3. [The Architects of Western Decline:
  4. A Study on the Frankfurt School and Cultural Marxism]


"According to my opinion, and the opinions of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money, and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other 85% is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion, active measures, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is: to change the perception of reality of every American that despite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country.
 
It's a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages.
 
The first stage being "demoralization".
 
It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years required to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy exposed to the ideology of [their] enemy. In other words, Marxism-Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least 3 generation of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism; American patriotism.
 
Most of the activity of the department [KGB] was to compile huge amount / volume of information, on individuals who were instrumental in creating public opinion.  Publisher, editors, journalists, uh actors, educationalists, professors of political science.  Members of parliament, representatives of business circles. 
 
Most of these people were divided roughly into two groups:  those who would tow the Soviet foreign policy, they would be promoted to positions of power through media and public manipulation;  [and] those who refuse the Soviet influence in their own country would be character assassinated OR executed physically, come Revolution.  "
--KGB Defector Yuri Bezmenov
--Soviet Subversion of the Free Press (Ideological subversion, Destabilization, CRISIS - and the KGB)

 


VxH  posted on  2017-10-30   22:45:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: VxH (#4)

What is the date of the relevant data contained in your above post?

buckeroo  posted on  2017-10-30   22:55:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: redleghunter (#1)

Too simple.

Then Kelly should explain that option to Trump.

Let's see if he does.

that's my story and i'm sticking to it

cranky  posted on  2017-10-30   22:59:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: buckeroo (#5) (Edited)

Yuri Bezmenov gave a series of lectures circa 1984.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZnkULuWFDg

VxH  posted on  2017-10-30   23:01:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: VxH (#7)

Sorry for the delay. Here is one that might precede your report.

buckeroo  posted on  2017-10-31   0:41:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: buckeroo (#8) (Edited)

Yep - The Frankfurt School's minions played a significant role in achieving those goals:

[The Architects of Western Decline: A Study on the Frankfurt School and Cultural Marxism]
vid.me/UoQm#17m10s

VxH  posted on  2017-10-31   9:12:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: cranky (#0)

Ignore the order. Declare the homo judge an enemy combatant. Take the judge to gitmo and waterboard for 500 days. Then imprison for life.

Fuck all the liberal freaks.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-10-31   10:02:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: VxH (#7)

I'll take a look at the video you posted later. Thanks.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-10-31   10:03:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: A K A Stone (#11) (Edited)

I'll take a look at the video you posted later. Thanks.

Welcome.

Bezmnov's lecture describes the theoretical process.

The video on the Frankfurt School / Cultural Marxism documents real world events by which that theoretical process was essentially being implemented.

IOW, without mentioning Bezmenov, the video on the Frankfurt School / Cultural Marxism independantly verifies what Bezemenov was saying and vice versa.  The complementary nature of the two perspectives is powerful.

Herbert Marcuse (OSS/CIA) can be observed to be one of the Frankfurt School's prototypically subversive snakes in the swamp.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H erbert_Marcuse

VxH  posted on  2017-10-31   12:23:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: VxH (#4)

# [The Architects of Western Decline: # A Study on the Frankfurt School and Cultural Marxism]

The Frankfurt School has been 100 % successful in achieving its goals in this country since its imigration into this country in about 1933.

rlk  posted on  2017-11-01   11:55:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: rlk (#13) (Edited)

The Frankfurt School has been 100 % successful in achieving its goals in this country since its imigration into this country in about 1933.

Yep. When we observe the effectiveness with which Marcuse and his pervert comrades...

https://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/Frankfurt_School#Theorists

...subverted the OSS/CIA/Bureaucracy from within - it becomes more apparent why the L.I.F.E.R. R.E.M.F. "swamp" has to get drained to restore the Republic -- which is presently, clearly, not operating within the constrained purpose thoughtfully declared for American government:

"TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS"

"AND THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE"

VxH  posted on  2017-11-01   12:36:04 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: A K A Stone (#10)

" Ignore the order. Declare the homo judge an enemy combatant. Take the judge to gitmo and waterboard for 500 days. Then imprison for life.

Fuck all the liberal freaks. "

Or simply follow Andrew Jacksons example. Write on the order " FUCK YOU " send it back to the judge, and do what you want.

About time the House starts impeaching a bunch of these liberal assholes !!!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Never Pick A Fight With An Old Man He Will Just Shoot You He Can't Afford To Get Hurt

"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers)

Stoner  posted on  2017-11-01   15:33:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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