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Paddock is believed to have removed the hard drive before fatally shooting himself, and the missing device has not yet been recovered, sources told ABC News. [snip] Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 71. #2. To: nolu chan, Willie Green (#0) The hard drive might have been removed well before the massacre. To monitor his video cameras and do casual web browsing, he could do it all with a Linux LiveCD or memory stick. Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-25   17:39:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: Tooconservative (#2) The hard drive might have been removed well before the massacre. To monitor his video cameras and do casual web browsing, he could do it all with a Linux LiveCD or memory stick. You've thought this one out, huh? Why connect dots that aren't there? Even you are stretching on this. Why would someone so supposely cold-blooded and unemotional give flying eff about his hard drive contents? "Embarrassment"? Why not also then consider David Copperfield's involvement? Penn and Teller? Or, how about THIS: Paddock is a patsy?... ...And this was and still is an Op. Or is that as impossible as 911 being an Op? Or JFK? Liberator  posted on  2017-10-25   18:49:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #7. To: Liberator (#5) Paddock was locked in and alone in the room. If you aren't aware of it, disassembling laptops and removing their hard drives and reassembling them takes some time. Even someone who is fast would take at least a half hour, I think. Paddock was smart enough to know it is better to leave no tracks. With a LiveCD, you can be sure there are no cookies, not hidden supercookies, no viruses, no trojans or remote control botnet programs, etc. Lots of paranoid people use old laptops this way with a LiveCD. Or they use a USB memory stick, either locked (so nothing is saved) or unlocked and set up to function exactly as a hard drive would work. Paddock seems determined to leave behind no evidence and leave a lot of questions, to remain a man of mystery and murder. He was planning for post-massacre fame. Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-25   19:16:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #11. To: Tooconservative, Liberator (#7) disassembling laptops and removing their hard drives and reassembling them takes some time. Even someone who is fast would take at least a half hour, I think. I'm guessing that you've never used a bump fire rifle to open up a laptop? It's not like he was trying to preserve the data for future generations. He could smash it an' bash it, whatever it takes. What with government incompetence and all, it took the FBI/Fusion Center team two weeks or so to "lose" the hard drive. The private sector is much more efficient. The Fusion Team has come up with so many tall tales, that it's difficult to believe their latest lone wolf stories anymore. Why bother to take out the HD, just lose the whole laptop? Hondo68  posted on  2017-10-25   21:00:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #22. To: hondo68, Tooconservative, Liberator (#11) What with government incompetence and all, it took the FBI/Fusion Center team two weeks or so to "lose" the hard drive. It took the FBI very little time to find the hard drive. It took them weeks to decide it had to be "lost." nolu chan  posted on  2017-10-26   2:08:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #23. To: nolu chan (#22) It took the FBI very little time to find the hard drive. It took them weeks to decide it had to be "lost." And you base this on what evidence (other than sheer conjecture)? Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-26   7:55:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #40. To: Tooconservative (#23) (Edited) And you base this on what evidence (other than sheer conjecture)? Evidence that I have not gone senile yet. The very first thing they do in computer forensics is mirror the hard drive and write block it. Then they work off the mirror image. Bill Nelson, Amelia Phillips, and Christopher Steuart, Guide to Computer Forensics and Investigations, Fourth Edition, Curse Technology, Cengage Learning, 2010, page 174, Processing and Handling Digital Evidence You must maintain the integrity of digital evidence in the lab as you do when collecting it in the field. Your first task is to preserve the disk data. If you have a suspect computer that hasn't been copied with an imaging tool, you must crete a copy. When you do, be sure to make the suspect drive read only (typically by write-blocking device), and document this step. nolu chan  posted on  2017-10-28   1:08:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #41. To: nolu chan (#40) (Edited) And you think that proves that the FBI made the hard drive disappear deliberately. Whatever. If that's your position, we don't have much to discuss at all. The problem with subscribing to many different CTs to explain the world is that you quickly snowball into a requirement of tens of thousands or even millions of conspirators plotting to keep the truth from the public. It would include witnesses to the events, victims (crisis actors), relatives, police, EMTs, doctors/nurses/hospitabls, morticians/staff, coroners... the list is huge even for just one supposed false-flag event like Vegas. But if that is the case, why do you watch the news at all? If they can fake Vegas (and the JFK assassination and the moon landing and 9/11 and Newtown and aliens at Roswell, etc.), then they can just fake anything so nothing is newsworthy at all. Then they work off the mirror image. Bill Nelson, Amelia Phillips, and Christopher Steuart, Guide to Computer Forensics and Investigations, Fourth Edition, Curse Technology, Cengage Learning, 2010, page 174, Do you own that book or have access to a physical copy of it? How do you know it's not a fake book intended to deceive people like you trying to penetrate the veil of secrecy that apparently is the primary work of the entire federal government? If you just found that off the internet, you can't prove there is a book or that it was written by persons named Bill Nelson, Amelia Phillips, and Christopher Steuart. Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-28   10:43:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #50. To: Tooconservative, nolu chan, Deckard, tpaine, buckeroo, hondo68, Pinguinite, A K A Stone, Stoner, Vicomte13, redleghunter (#41) And you think that proves that the FBI made the hard drive disappear deliberately. Whatever. If that's your position, we don't have much to discuss at all. Aaah, but apparently we do. As evidenced by this thread as well as many others HERE as well as on the entire interweb, lit up like a pinball machine over the non-specificity, vagueness, yet un-proven claims made by "authorities." You yourself have speculated and engaged in quite a few theories as to what happened; No, you don't refer to YOUR theories as "conspiratorial," but aren't they? Unless you have definitive proof that there was indeed a "Paddock," and he indeed pulled off this op ALONE. conspiracy: a secret plan made by two or more people to do something bad, illegal, or against someone’s wishes (Source: Cambridge Dictionary) The problem with subscribing to many different CTs to explain the world is that you quickly snowball into a requirement of tens of thousands or even millions of conspirators plotting to keep the truth from the public. Not necessarily... ...and NOT if the tasks are compartmentalized. The roles subbed-out. And key players/witnesses/patsies ELIMINATED from the equation. Yes, purely speculation here. But based on circumstantial evidence and eyewitness testimony. You'll find a very sizable number people who've never believed the Warren Commission conclusion regarded JFK's assassination as the work of JUST Oswald and JUST one single bullet and shooter. For good reason: Precisely because THE MATH DOESN'T WORK. It's simply implausible. And the single-bullet/assassin account defies the law of physics. It [all major False Flag events] would include witnesses to the events, victims (crisis actors), relatives, police, EMTs, doctors/nurses/hospitabls, morticians/staff, coroners... the list is huge even for just one supposed false-flag event like Vegas. Yes, operations like this would require many actors (everyone is aware that requests for "crisis actors" and companies who provide them exist and advertise.) Ops would also require directors AND scripts, wouldn't they? And massive training grounds. HOW could such events be pulled off? Here's a solution: CrisisCast http://crisiscast.com/ "Award winning role play actors and film makers specially trained in disaster and crisis management. "We dramatise events for emerging security needs in the UK, Middle East and worldwide. "Our specialist role play actors – many with security clearance – are trained by behavioural psychologists and rigorously rehearsed in criminal and victim behaviour to help police, the army and the emergency services, hospitals, schools, local authorities, government, private security firms, shopping centres, airports, big business, criminal justice departments, media and the military to simulate incident environments for life saving procedures. "We use state of the art British film industry techniques, props and special effects to help trainers deliver essential, hands-on, high octane crisis response and disaster management training. We also work with trainee doctors, psychologists and care professionals." Large Scale Incidents "We can provide up to 400 actors, fully trained and rehearsed along with professional teams that look after make-up, prosthetics, pyrotechnics, wardrobe, special effects, covert and aerial footage. ​ "Our specially trained professional role-play actors and internationally credited film crews bring realistic, informed, crisis management and disaster incidents to life. as a company we use state of the art uk and Australian film crafts, tricks and skills for live training that requires hyper real battlefield effects, role players, stunts, medical simulations and combat flashpoints. ​ "We are able to use specialist film techniques and disciplines to bring the best of theatre and film to our live, immersive simulations." Why do you watch the news at all? If they can fake Vegas (and the JFK assassination and the moon landing and 9/11 and Newtown and aliens at Roswell, etc.), then they can just fake anything so nothing is newsworthy at all. Kinda hard to wrap your head around it all, ain't it? Since the "news" reporting is now simply an overt propaganda arm of the gubmint, many have indeed tuned out the "news," or regard it for what it is: Disinfo, Diversion, and Brainwashing. The Media's cred is practically null. NEW REALITY: Practically ANY event can be staged. The above 'Crisis Cast' and "Roleplay" company claims it can "provide up to 400 actors" on site. MANY of whom (as mentioned above) possess "SECURITY CLEARANCE." Hmmm....This particular "Crisis Management" company mentions "security clearance" as one of its featured advantages for its clients... COULD IT BE that this "Crisis Management" outfit is actually just a gubmint subsidiary framed as a private company? One wouldn't think the demand for such bloody theatrics was so great. Oh wait: Newtown...Boston Marathon...Vegas.... To be clear, no one is claiming that in operations like this people don't actually get shot or die (which necessarily evokes very uncomfortable questions AND answers of companies like this, and of events as in Newtown, and especially in Vegas and the Boston Marathon.) Liberator  posted on  2017-10-31   12:10:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #61. To: Liberator, Tooconservative, Y'ALL (#50) You yourself have speculated and engaged in quite a few theories as to what happened; No, you don't refer to YOUR theories as "conspiratorial," but aren't they? TC doesn't refer to his theories as "conspiratorial," but certainly, most are, which makes him as much of a kook as everyone. He calls everybody kooks because he craves attention, --- because it is his false conviction that he is the smartest person at LF, and doesn't get enough respect. Whatta pitiful little person. tpaine  posted on  2017-11-01   17:48:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #71. To: tpaine, Tooconservative (#61) TC doesn't refer to his theories as "conspiratorial," but certainly, most are, which makes him as much of a kook as everyone. He calls everybody kooks because he craves attention, --- because it is his false conviction that he is the smartest person at LF, and doesn't get enough respect. I concur. TC is the self-anointed arbiter and gate-keeper of "truth." And to prove it he regularly cites the Weekly Standard, WaPo, and other "legacy" media sources who lack any cred and who's daddy are the Globalists-Elites. Anyone who so readily dismisses ANY AND ALL speculation and theory as a default position -- OTHER THAN the "Official" account (even though it is far too often incomplete piecemeal AND makes little sense) -- can be considered "kooky." It's the same terse authoritative conversation parents have with their little kids: Kid: "But Why"? Mommy and Daddy: "Because we say so." 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