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Status: Not Logged In; Sign In United States News See other United States News Articles Title: Las Vegas shooter's laptop missing its hard drive Source: ABC News URL Source: http://abcnews.go.com/US/las-vegas- ... g-hard-drive/story?id=50709285 Published: Oct 25, 2017 Author: Jack Date, Mike Levine, Pierre Thomas Post Date: 2017-10-25 14:48:35 by nolu chan Keywords: None Views: 7149 Comments: 85 Las Vegas shooter's laptop missing its hard drive By Jack Date Mike Levine Pierre Thomas ABC News Oct 25, 2017, 12:15 PM ET A laptop computer recovered from the Las Vegas hotel room where Stephen Paddock launched the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history was missing its hard drive, depriving investigators of a potential key source of information on why he killed and maimed so many people, ABC News has learned. Paddock is believed to have removed the hard drive before fatally shooting himself, and the missing device has not yet been recovered, sources told ABC News. [snip] Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 38. #2. To: nolu chan, Willie Green (#0) The hard drive might have been removed well before the massacre. To monitor his video cameras and do casual web browsing, he could do it all with a Linux LiveCD or memory stick. Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-25   17:39:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: Tooconservative (#2) The hard drive might have been removed well before the massacre. To monitor his video cameras and do casual web browsing, he could do it all with a Linux LiveCD or memory stick. You've thought this one out, huh? Why connect dots that aren't there? Even you are stretching on this. Why would someone so supposely cold-blooded and unemotional give flying eff about his hard drive contents? "Embarrassment"? Why not also then consider David Copperfield's involvement? Penn and Teller? Or, how about THIS: Paddock is a patsy?... ...And this was and still is an Op. Or is that as impossible as 911 being an Op? Or JFK? Liberator  posted on  2017-10-25   18:49:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #7. To: Liberator (#5) Paddock was locked in and alone in the room. If you aren't aware of it, disassembling laptops and removing their hard drives and reassembling them takes some time. Even someone who is fast would take at least a half hour, I think. Paddock was smart enough to know it is better to leave no tracks. With a LiveCD, you can be sure there are no cookies, not hidden supercookies, no viruses, no trojans or remote control botnet programs, etc. Lots of paranoid people use old laptops this way with a LiveCD. Or they use a USB memory stick, either locked (so nothing is saved) or unlocked and set up to function exactly as a hard drive would work. Paddock seems determined to leave behind no evidence and leave a lot of questions, to remain a man of mystery and murder. He was planning for post-massacre fame. Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-25   19:16:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #11. To: Tooconservative, Liberator (#7) disassembling laptops and removing their hard drives and reassembling them takes some time. Even someone who is fast would take at least a half hour, I think. I'm guessing that you've never used a bump fire rifle to open up a laptop? It's not like he was trying to preserve the data for future generations. He could smash it an' bash it, whatever it takes. What with government incompetence and all, it took the FBI/Fusion Center team two weeks or so to "lose" the hard drive. The private sector is much more efficient. The Fusion Team has come up with so many tall tales, that it's difficult to believe their latest lone wolf stories anymore. Why bother to take out the HD, just lose the whole laptop? Hondo68  posted on  2017-10-25   21:00:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #13. To: hondo68 (#11) I'm guessing that you've never used a bump fire rifle to open up a laptop? It's not like he was trying to preserve the data for future generations. He could smash it an' bash it, whatever it takes. He was using the laptop to watch his security camera(s) that were planted on that maid's cart out in the hallway. So it had to be a working laptop. No way he had time to fire the volleys, then disassemble/reassemble the laptop, find some way to dispose of the hard drive (not easy). A LiveCD or a tiny bootable USB flash drive could be crushed with his hammer (we know he had one), and then the pieces flung out one of his broken windows. Or flushed down his toilet. My explanation is quite reasonable. You OTOH are raving like a drunken kook. Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-25   21:07:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #38. To: Tooconservative (#13) He was using the laptop to watch his security camera(s) that were planted on that maid's cart out in the hallway. So it had to be a working laptop. Presumably that or a smart phone. No way he had time to fire the volleys, then disassemble/reassemble the laptop, find some way to dispose of the hard drive (not easy). Agreed. A LiveCD or a tiny bootable USB flash drive could be crushed with his hammer (we know he had one), and then the pieces flung out one of his broken windows. Or flushed down his toilet. First, he needs a motive to go through the trouble. Wtih a live CD, why bother? And if you try breaking up a CD and flushing it down the toilet, odds are it would clog it up unless it was pretty decently pulverized. Throwing it out the window is no good. I'm sure that debris would be carefully sifted through, as some bullet casings may have gone out the window too. Sure, a smaller flash drive could probably be flushed without problem, but surely if Paddock's computer was found without a HD, then some evidence of a bootable drive would likely be found instead. Bottom line, there has to be a motive for Paddock to take each and every step he took. And the system after booting up on a flash or CD would need to be able to work with the cameras. If it takes some configing, then that would be a drawback on the theory. You can ridicule so-called "conspiracy theories" if you like. That's fine, but the fact remains that we have very little word from the police as to the raw facts of the case. Bullet casing counts, what kind of magazines for which weapons were found, and so on. And this Campos guy is acting a bit funny too, though perhaps taht's to be expected after finding himself a person of national interest in this horrific event. Maybe. Pinguinite  posted on  2017-10-27   20:16:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 38. #39. To: Pinguinite (#38) (Edited) First, he needs a motive to go through the trouble. Wtih a live CD, why bother? And if you try breaking up a CD and flushing it down the toilet, odds are it would clog it up unless it was pretty decently pulverized. Throwing it out the window is no good. I'm sure that debris would be carefully sifted through, as some bullet casings may have gone out the window too. Sure, a smaller flash drive could probably be flushed without problem, but surely if Paddock's computer was found without a HD, then some evidence of a bootable drive would likely be found instead. Bottom line, there has to be a motive for Paddock to take each and every step he took. Not sure if you read my other posts but I did some debunking of my own LiveCD theory along these lines in previous posts. A lot of motive to be a Man Of Mystery so it isn't so satisfying once you start to think about it. And the system after booting up on a flash or CD would need to be able to work with the cameras. If it takes some configing, then that would be a drawback on the theory. Nearly all of them just need an IP address and password. Common as dirt. That's fine, but the fact remains that we have very little word from the police as to the raw facts of the case. Bullet casing counts, what kind of magazines for which weapons were found, and so on. And this Campos guy is acting a bit funny too, though perhaps taht's to be expected after finding himself a person of national interest in this horrific event. Maybe. I"ve certainly decried the absolutely miserable spectacle of the FBI's handling of this on many threads. Campos may be an illegal, fearing repercussions. And his exit to Mexico is suspicious. The Mandalay has a lot to worry about with him. If he is an illegal and/or he lacks a security guard license from the state of Nevada, Mandalay will be on the hook with bloodthirsty lawyers for victims for having an unqualified guard in their hotel or even an unqualified guard who is also an illegal alien. Those lawyers will no doubt argue that a properly licensed guard would have acted more effectively to end the massacre or to interrupt it more than just hiding until Paddock got tired of shooting. This is why Campos only gave one interview and only to a bought-and-paid Mandalay whore mouthpiece, Ellen Degenerate. The Mandalay may as well just hand over the keys to the hotel to the lawyers for the victims. Apparently, Nevada licenses both armed and unarmed security guards according to some professional training sites I looked at. Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-27 20:25:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   End Trace Mode for Comment # 38. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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