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Title: Bannon blasts George W. Bush’s presidency (FR wises up)
Source: FreeRepublic
URL Source: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3597109/posts
Published: Oct 21, 2017
Author: New York Post
Post Date: 2017-10-21 13:52:50 by Hank Rearden
Keywords: FreeRepublic, griftathon, hopalong
Views: 4792
Comments: 52

It wasn't very long ago that Hopalong was banning people for saying what's now pervasive in the comments sections. I was one of them.

The almost-always grift is running at about the same slow pace as usual, FYI. The last grift-free break between grifts was 8 days at the end of September.

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Former White House adviser Steve Bannon says there has not been a more destructive presidency than George W. Bush’s.

Bannon delivered a scathing criticism of the former president after Bush this week denounced bigotry in Trump-era American politics, warning that the rise of “nativism,” isolationism and conspiracy theories have clouded the nation’s true identity.

Bannon told a capacity crowd at a California Republican convention in Anaheim that Bush “embarrassed himself.”

In his remarks in New York, Bush warned of a nation in which discourse has been degraded by “casual cruelty,” where bigotry is emboldened.

Bannon says Bush has no idea whether “he is coming or going, just like it was when he was president.”

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#1. To: All (#0)

It's funny that I have yet to see a single person post (on any thread, not just this one) "Hey, didn't ol' RimJob ban a lot of people for saying exactly these things?"

Hank Rearden  posted on  2017-10-21   13:54:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Hank Rearden (#1)

It wasn't very long ago that Hopalong was banning people for saying what's now pervasive in the comments sections. I was one of them.

It's funny that I have yet to see a single person post (on any thread, not just this one) "Hey, didn't ol' RimJob ban a lot of people for saying exactly these things?"

What most don't realize is, --- JR never did care about whatever was said, as long as his "core group" wasn't upset, and kept the money coming in...

tpaine  posted on  2017-10-21   14:44:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Hank Rearden, ibjensen, infowarrior, rf396, Itzlzha, Uncle Siggy, stoner, BobCeleste, Chuck_ Wagon, tpaine, RISU, outdamnedspot, Vicomte13, sneakypete, calcon, Dead Culture Watch, fallujah nuker (#0)

(FR wises up)

It wasn't very long ago that Hopalong was banning people for saying what's now pervasive in the comments sections. I was one of them.

Good observations.

Freepers as usual wise up when it's far too late. JR and his the Bush-Bot cartel managed to gut the America-First contingent of posters and zot them starting in 2003 (including you, Pete, Itzy, and many of THE best Freepers)

Dubya was exposed a good dozen years ago as a phony Globalist, anti-America Firster, AND closet Dem. By 2004 and 2005 FR concentrated on purging those who dared question Dubya's lax positions on Illegal Invaders, Harriet Miers, the Dubai Port take-over, etc.

Remnants of these toxic Bush-Bot bozos and Statists were still convinced that Dubya was "A good guy" until just now. Even in light of his NEVER criticizing 0bammy.

How in the world can any logical, politically observant person believe that Dubya and any of his NWO posse could possibly be a "good guy" or "love 'Murica'"? This is the same guy who lectured America that Islam was a "Religion of Peace."

Dubya and his NWO posse then got us in an obvious NO-WIN multi-trillion dollar boondoggle/quagmire (and yes, Freepers were STILL defending the Iraq War even a few years ago.) We are STILL paying for Dubya & Co phony war, their 911 Op, and their 0bammy Red Carpet.

Again -- why did Freepers love this phony globalist-Dem in sheeps clothing when he reversed the conservative agenda? And especially after he demonized the Minutemen and those defending OUR border while rolling out the red carpet for BOTH millions of Illegal Mexican Invaders AND Muzzies??

It's taken an obvious cheap shot at Trump (and again, by association, Trump-Voters and America-Firsters) for Freepers to "wise up" and FINALLY diss Dubya Bush.

Liberator  posted on  2017-10-21   14:48:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Liberator, Hank Rearden (#3) (Edited)

This must be a real downer for the Daily Bush Worship photo threads.

Here's an old favorite of the Bush idolators and old harpies over at TOS.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-21   14:53:07 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Liberator (#3)

Remnants of these toxic Bush-Bot bozos and Statists were still convinced that Dubya was "A good guy" until just now. Even in light of his NEVER criticizing 0bammy.

Well,to be fair to Boy Jorge,it is traditional for former Presidents to go back home and remain silent about the actions and policies of the President that replaces them.

This held true until Bathhouse Barry had to leave the WH. He is an attention whore,and there was just no way he was going to disappear into the background like a bad dream.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-10-21   14:59:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Tooconservative (#4)

Here's an old favorite of the Bush idolators and old harpies over at TOS.

I used to get a kick out of teasing the Harpies in Heat that would keep posting about how good Boy Jorge looked in tight jeans while pretending to be clearing brush at Camp Photo Op.

They would usually follow it up with a comment on how beautiful Laura is,thinking nobody would notice they were OD-ing on Estrogen.

BTW,anyone else notice that selling Camp Photo Op was practically the first thing they did after they left the WH?

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-10-21   15:03:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Tooconservative (#4)

Here's an old favorite of the Bush idolators and old harpies over at TOS.

That was truly sickening...

Liberator  posted on  2017-10-21   15:04:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: sneakypete (#6)

I used to get a kick out of teasing the Harpies in Heat that would keep posting about how good Boy Jorge looked in tight jeans while pretending to be clearing brush at Camp Photo Op.

Heh! I recall the Harpies swooning over those fake photo ops. Think they still believe Dubya's straight?

You were really playing with fire. No wonder they went after you with the pitchfork and and torches.

They would usually follow it up with a comment on how beautiful Laura is,thinking nobody would notice they were OD-ing on Estrogen

Yup. The "beautiful classy" Laura "Stepford Wife" Bush. Even MORE lovely once her pro-Abortion, pro-0bama positions were exposed. OH WAIT.

BTW,anyone else notice that selling Camp Photo Op was practically the first thing they did after they left the WH?

No...wow...Did they??

Liberator  posted on  2017-10-21   15:08:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: sneakypete (#6)

BTW,anyone else notice that selling Camp Photo Op was practically the first thing they did after they left the WH?

No, I know they owned it up through 2010 at least. And I think it is still theirs. Also, that's part of the route for his big annual bike ride with the disabled vets. Jenna's wedding was held there in 2008 or so.

The wiki for Prairie Chapel Ranch hasn't been updated in years.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-21   16:36:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Liberator (#8)

Heh! I recall the Harpies swooning over those fake photo ops. Think they still believe Dubya's straight?

Why not? They are so stupid they still think he was a conservative.

You were really playing with fire. No wonder they went after you with the pitchfork and and torches.

I used to love telling them he was as queer as a 3 dollar bill,and post photos of him kissing Prince Abdul,as well as various male politicians.

Why do you think I call him "Boy Jorge"?

Yup. The "beautiful classy" Laura "Stepford Wife" Bush.

AKA,"Boy Jorge's Controller". It was the women in the Bush Crime Family that have all the brains and most of the balls. Poppy did some seriously brave stuff during WW-2,but the rest of them would probably run from Richard Simmons after he slapped them. AND....,Poppy married a woman that is probably tougher than he is,and no doubt a hell of a lot smarter,even if she is a evil old bitch.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-10-21   16:55:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Tooconservative (#9) (Edited)

No, I know they owned it up through 2010 at least. And I think it is still theirs. Also, that's part of the route for his big annual bike ride with the disabled vets. Jenna's wedding was held there in 2008 or so.

I read right after they left the white house that they had bought or had built a nice new mansion in a uber rich section of the city (Houston?),and were putting Camp Photo Op up for sale.

Boy Jorge might lust after cowboys,but he has no interest in being one.

BTW,don't get me wrong. I do not know him personally,but I THINK he is most likely a very nice and pleasant man in person,but a truly horrible president.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-10-21   16:57:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Tooconservative (#4) (Edited)

This must be a real downer for the Daily Bush Worship photo threads.

Here's an old favorite of the Bush idolators and old harpies over at TOS.

Before I got the heave-ho from RimJob for too much questioning of the GOPussies and Bush Jr., I coined the term "picturelickers" for those old biddies and their daily photo-worship thread. That was the most disgusting idolatry of a politician I've ever seen (including Odumbass's moron fans) - just a disgrace to a theoretically-free nation founded in individual liberty. And I told them so, to their faces.

Might have been a factor in the heave-ho'ing, come to think of it............

Hank Rearden  posted on  2017-10-21   17:28:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: sneakypete (#6)

Camp Photo Op

That's about the best name I've ever heard for El Rancho Fake-o.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2017-10-21   17:29:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: sneakypete (#11)

I read right after they left the white house that they had bought or had built a nice new mansion in a uber rich section of the city (Houston?),and were putting Camp Photo Op up for sale.

They bought it. I think it is a fenced house.

At the ranch, they renovated the original house and built a very large house for themselves, a bunk house, then renovated the original house for overflow guests. Bush built his studio there, built an 11-acre pond/lake that he stocked with fish.

And I think they do still own it. Also, that 60,000 acre ranch down in Paraguay. And no one ever mentions him visiting there.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-21   17:31:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Hank Rearden (#13)

That's about the best name I've ever heard for El Rancho Fake-o.

Boy Jorge needed to look Butch if he wanted to get elected,so they bought him a ranch so he could pretend to be a Texas cowboy instead of a creature of the DC belt line.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-10-21   18:53:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Tooconservative (#14)

And I think they do still own it.

Maybe they do? They sure don't need the money after the pay-offs the family got for working with the Clinton's sell military technology to the Chinese,and them from the Sauds to hang Hussein..

Not to mention the presidential retirement and all the perks it brings.

Also, that 60,000 acre ranch down in Paraguay. And no one ever mentions him visiting there.

I think it's a little bigger than that,and I'm pretty sure it belongs to the family corporation,not just Boy Jorge. In MY opinion,it's the family "bolt-hole" if things start getting dangerous for the family here in America. I don't think any of them have any plans to live,or even visit there. The caretakers probable sell enough cattle to turn a nice profit,so it can just sit there forever with no thought given to it,but it's still there if they need it.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-10-21   18:59:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: sneakypete (#16)

In MY opinion,it's the family "bolt-hole" if things start getting dangerous for the family here in America.

That's what I was thinking as well.

It'd be interesting to get the lat/long of the property and do a Google Earth lookback in time to see what, if any, significant construction activity has been undertaken.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2017-10-21   19:38:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: sneakypete (#6)

Camp photo op.....

That yours Pete? If so, it's genius mang!

'What kind of man gives cigarettes to trees?'

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2017-10-21   19:45:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Liberator (#7)

Lol.

It was a daily dose thread I posted on that got me zotted. I take great pride in that.

'What kind of man gives cigarettes to trees?'

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2017-10-21   19:47:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Hank Rearden (#0) (Edited)

[duplicate]

VxH  posted on  2017-10-21   22:23:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Hank Rearden, ibjensen, infowarrior, rf396, Itzlzha, Uncle Siggy, stoner, BobCeleste, Chuck_ Wagon, tpaine, RISU, outdamnedspot, Vicomte13, sneakypete, calcon, Dead Culture Watch, fallujah nuker, tPaine, Tooconservative (#0)

Bush “embarrassed himself.”

Yep.

VxH  posted on  2017-10-21   22:25:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: VxH, Hank Rearden, ohiowfan, Howlin (#21)

I've pinged the Harpies. They're going to come deal with you unbelievers Real Soon Now.

Boy, are you two going to get what for!

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-21   22:42:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Tooconservative (#14) (Edited)

Also, that 60,000 acre ranch down in Paraguay.

https://duckduckgo.com/? q=Reductions+Beautiful+Paraguay

Figures.

VxH  posted on  2017-10-21   23:13:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: VxH (#23)

I don't think Bush's Paraguay ranch includes any towns that could be called Jesuit reductions. At any rate, the Jesuits have been gone from those reductions for a few hundred years, I think.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-21   23:32:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Hank Rearden (#1)

I was banned for posting exact quotes of GW in which he said in response to a question about cutting the extra Constitutional agencies of government, like the Dept of Education. His response was "that ship has sailed, we lost that fight so why fight it again" badly paraphrased after this length of time has now passed. I got banned again, for calling Bush supporters Bushitters. I really loved that place until I didn't.

Exercising rights is only radical to two people, Tyrants and Slaves. Which are YOU? Our ignorance has driven us into slavery and we do not recognize it.

jeremiad  posted on  2017-10-21   23:42:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Hank Rearden (#17)

It'd be interesting to get the lat/long of the property and do a Google Earth lookback in time to see what, if any, significant construction activity has been undertaken.

I am sure there are plenty of people who know how to easily do that,but I also sure I'm not one of them.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-10-22   2:02:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Dead Culture Watch (#18)

That yours Pete? If so, it's genius mang!

Thanks. I first used it on FR. It really fired up the biddies there.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-10-22   2:03:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Tooconservative (#24)

I don't think Bush's Paraguay ranch includes any towns that could be called Jesuit reductions.

In 25 words or less,if possible,what is a Jesuit Reduction?

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-10-22   2:05:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: sneakypete (#28)

In 25 words or less,if possible,what is a Jesuit Reduction?

Settlements where Jesuits converted natives to Catholicism and resisted Portugese-Spanish slaver raids, so successful that the Jesuits got banned from the Americas by 176724.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-22   6:00:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Tooconservative (#29)

Settlements where Jesuits converted natives to Catholicism and resisted Portugese-Spanish slaver raids, so successful that the Jesuits got banned from the Americas by 176724.

Thanks,I was completely unaware of this. Sounds like some good and a lot of bad.

Truth to tell,sounds like the Jesuits and the Portuguese-Spanish slavers were in competition to see who would be the top dog in the slave trade. People in Catholic countries back then were little more than slaves to the Catholic Church.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-10-22   11:50:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: sneakypete (#30) (Edited)

Sounds like some good and a lot of bad.

It kinda ranged from "bad" to "hell on earth".

These were Stone Age people. No domesticated equines or bovines, hadn't even invented the wheel, no Iron Age or Bronze Age, etc. Where they were civilized at all, they had degrading religions involving human sacrifice.

To us, it would all be very depressing.

I think the colonists were a lot worse than the Jesuits. That's why they got Rome to get all of the Jesuits out of the Americas

The Caribbean and South America, the entire old Spanish empire in the "New World" (Spain's name for it), was built on slave labor, some imported but mostly just running around enslaving anyone they could grab to work their mines and plantations. And they killed them off so fast, they had to keep raiding deeper and deeper into the deadly jungles just to keep their labor force up.

As Molyneux pointed out in that video I posted, during the era of slavery in the Americas that involved Europeans, only 5% of the world's slavery was in North America. The overwhelming majority of slavery in that era (and the cruelest and most lethal type of slavery) was in the Muslim lands (Ottoman empire) and in the Spanish (and Portugese) colonial empire that stretched from California to the southern tip of South America.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-22   12:09:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Tooconservative (#24)

the Jesuits have been gone from those reductions for a few hundred years, I think.

So much for the collective Utopia.

And remember - NO SLEEPING IN BEDS err {edit} WIF SHEETS!

VxH  posted on  2017-10-22   18:25:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Tooconservative (#31)

These were Stone Age people.

Not much has changed there in all these centuries. Everything they know was imported.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-10-22   19:18:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: jeremiad (#25)

I got banned for criticizing H W Bush.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-10-23   10:18:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Dead Culture Watch (#19)

It was a daily dose thread I posted on that got me zotted. I take great pride in that.

Yup. Hitting a Daily Dose thread is taking one for the team! On behalf of the rest of us, Hi-FIVE

Good to see you, DCW...

Liberator  posted on  2017-10-23   11:44:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Vicomte13 (#34)

I got banned for criticizing H W Bush.

I very worthy ZOT. Do you remember specifically the criticism?

Liberator  posted on  2017-10-23   11:48:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: jeremiad (#25)

I was banned for posting exact quotes of GW in which he said in response to a question about cutting the extra Constitutional agencies of government, like the Dept of Education. His response was "that ship has sailed, we lost that fight so why fight it again" badly paraphrased after this length of time has now passed. I got banned again, for calling Bush supporters Bushitters.

Well done.

Dubya was embarrassingly wimpy -- even if some of us knew he was just a willing Globalist Puppet. EVERY "ship sails" for GOPe toolbags.

I'd go as far as saying Dubya was snickering at those who voted for him in TWO different elections in which he wasn't nearly as much voted FOR as much as being the "Lesser-of-two-evils."

Meanwhile, FREE REPUBLIC'S JimRob and its core of Bush-Bots were guilty of being stupid , aiding and abetting stupidity, and ignoring obvious signs that Dubya & Co were nothing but lying, subversive globalists and America-Lasters.

Liberator  posted on  2017-10-23   11:57:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Liberator (#7)

Here's an old favorite of the Bush idolators and old harpies over at TOS.

That was truly sickening...

Don't be posting the photo of Jorge in the flight suit, or you'll be owing OhioWfan a new pair of panties.

Non auro, sed ferro, recuperando est patria

nativist nationalist  posted on  2017-10-24   3:37:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Liberator (#36)

Yes. What I specifically wrote was "Was it worth putting up with 8 years of Clinton to get rid of H.W. Bush? Yes, yes it was."

And that was that.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-10-24   9:06:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Vicomte13 (#39)

HA! That was a Capitol Offense, no doubt at FR.

Liberator  posted on  2017-10-24   10:29:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: nativist nationalist (#38)

Don't be posting the photo of Jorge in the flight suit, or you'll be owing OhioWfan a new pair of panties.

HEH! Oooh...Now *I'M* getting da vapors...

OH WAIT. *barf*

Liberator  posted on  2017-10-24   10:30:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: tpaine (#2)

What most don't realize is, --- JR never did care about whatever was said, as long as his "core group" wasn't upset, and kept the money coming in...

Roger that.

You've just crystallized what no one has ever said, but has ALWAYS been the case.

That included Dubya's special "Mysterious Texan" and his $$$$ who always seemed to nudge JR over the top during the days when Stalin...er...I mean JR and his henchmen/women were Zotting patriots for opposing the Mexican Invasion.

Liberator  posted on  2017-10-24   10:35:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Liberator (#42)

They have long memories and hold grudges. Me too.

There is literally no place in the same party for the Bushite crony- capitalist/open borders/free-trade/forever-wars-to-keep-contractors- happy/eliminate estate taxes type of "conservative" and me.

They cross all of my third rails. Crony capitalism MEANS destroy the small entrepreneur with regulations and taxes that are designed to do just that: destroy them, leaving their market share to the politically connected big players who provide regulations.

Open borders means that my fellow Americans are out of work by the millions, and always will be. So does "free" trade.

War is bloody and horrible. When you have to do it, you declare, go total, win it as fast as you can, and remake whatever you conquered into something that will never again be a threat (to wit: Germany, Italy, Japan, the American Indians, the various European colonizing states). Going in with limited forces timidly is a prescription for killing and maiming people on an ongoing basis forever with no peace, at great profit to contractors and immense misery and expense to everybody else. It is an EVIL way to fight a war, because it's PURPOSE is to maintain steady state war to maximize economic profits to war stockjobbers. THAT ALONE is grounds to throw a party out of office and really detest the people who run it, because we are talking about destroying the lives and families of American soldiers in hopeless, endless wars, so that somebody can make a profit and hold power. People like that are the ones who should be shot and have their eyes gouged out and legs blown off, not our grunts in the field. This is why wars need to be DECLARED, so that the gamesmanship stops and the population focuses, politically, on the war. Taxes are hiked massively in wars, because the war effort is more important than personal LIFE, and THEREFORE is MUCH more important than any notion of mere personal economic profit. Declaring wars puts them in their proper perspective: as superior in importance to private enterprise "for the duration". Of course, that aligns incentives properly, because people who want to get on with profit making will EITHER resist declaring war AT ALL, and we will stay at peace, OR, if war is necessary, they have a strong incentive to press for it to be WON as fast as possible.

Our politicians, Republicans and Democrats, have instead created a new situation in which we can engage in forever war "police actions", without declaring them, so that war profiteering and political patronage can be distributed lavishly, the world can feel American power. That all sounds great, but the PRICE paid for it is the death and maiming of tens of thousands, then hundreds of thousands, over time, American boys and girls, and millions of enemy civilians. It is pure evil, and the proponents of that approach should LITERALLY be lined up and shot for crimes against humanity. The way we fought the Vietnam War - and the War on Terror - is a crime against humanity. It's a crime against our own people, our soldiers, sailors and airmen. It's a murderous disgrace, and it is FOR THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT of certain other Americans. The politicians who have orchestrated this are evil war criminals who should be put to death, as should the influence peddlers who pay those politicians to implement these policies.

But, since we have no constitutional means of bringing true justice to these war criminals, we have to focus on wiping them out of power and flushing them down the political toilet. We will leave it to God to bring them ultimate justice in the end when they die for their greedy murders.

Their endless, relentless drive to eliminate the estate tax upon themselves, were they ever to succeed, would result within a generation in a hard- ceiling economic nobility that would be unremovable through the normal political process.

Now, I don't think that most American Republican conservative rank-and-file voters realize that they are footsoldiers in a political army that has all of those terrible objectives. I think, for example, that virtually every conservative who posts on this site, and most of the posters on FR, are middle class or working class conservatives who have a conservative mindset, and who follow the Republicans because the Republicans SAY they are conservative - and at least they're not Democrats! But I don't think that the typical conservative voter connects the dots and realizes all of the evil he has bought into by buying into this party.

I think, rather, that most of you guys recognize the bad that's there, but really believe that you have some sort of fighting chance of taking over the party and expelling the control of the billionaires at the top of it. For their part, the billionaires are not at all stupid, and they recognize that they need your votes to keep coming in in order to prevent the government from going over to Democrats, but they have no intention of ever giving you ANY of the key policies that you want.

You voted for Trump for a Border Wall: the Republicans will never give you one, not ever.

You voted for Trump to repeal Obamacare: the Republicans will not do it.

You voted for Trump to rein in "free" trade and bring American jobs home. Trump did what he could by killing certain agreements, but the legal structure can only be changed by Congress, and they never will change it, not ever.

You did NOT vote for Trump for "sweeping tax reform" - that was NOT a key plank of his platform. The only thing he talked about was lowering corporate taxes to bring money home.

But the Republicans are SAYING that you gave them a mandate - so they can take away your home mortgage deduction and take away your state income tax deduction - but then also erase the estate tax on the rich. In other words, when it comes to taxes, Republicans are enthusiastically doing what they do, and pretending that the election was all about this, and that you support it. You shouldn't. It would be far better to leave the tax code exactly as it is, and only insist on the cutting of the corporate taxes that Trump campaigned on (NOT reducing taxes on wealthy individuals, but on corporations that employ people) than to let the Republicans have what they want. Middle class and working class Republican rank and file are being led down the primrose path by the Republican Party again. If the Republicans succeed and manage to get their tax breaks for the wealthy through, along with all of the other crap they want to do, then the future of those middle class and working class conservatives will be worse than it is now...and the Republican propaganda machine will have done an excellent job in causing you to blame the Democrats for your pain.

It's a cynical scam that is not at all in your best interests. But most of you hate ME because I say these things and tell you to STOP DRINKING THE REPUBLICAN KOOL-ADE.

You're like lemmings leaping off the cliff when you follow these guys.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-10-24   15:20:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Vicomte13 (#34)

" I got banned for criticizing H W Bush. "

So did I ! I consider it a badge of honor !!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Never Pick A Fight With An Old Man He Will Just Shoot You He Can't Afford To Get Hurt

"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers)

Stoner  posted on  2017-10-24   16:20:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Stoner (#44)

" I got banned for criticizing H W Bush. "

So did I ! I consider it a badge of honor !!

FR separates the sheep from the goats - only goats allowed.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-10-24   17:33:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Vicomte13 (#45)

How much money did you donate?

buckeroo  posted on  2017-10-24   18:05:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Vicomte13 (#34)

I got banned for criticizing H W Bush.

I got banned for criticizing Yeltsin. Beat that!

www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1824916/posts

A Pole  posted on  2017-10-24   19:48:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: A Pole, BorisY (#47)

I got banned for criticizing Yeltsin. Beat that!

Boris approves?

Hondo68  posted on  2017-10-24   20:37:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: A Pole (#47)

Looks like you got banned for, sotto voce, claiming (correctly, by the way), that Gorbachev was really the father of Russian democracy with his perestroika.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-10-24   23:37:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: buckeroo (#46)

How much money did you donate?

Over time, maybe $75 to $100. I considered my writing and time to be my very substantial donation, improving the the place by my presence and intellect, like I do here.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-10-24   23:39:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Vicomte13 (#49)

With his fake coup and all right?

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-10-24   23:39:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: A K A Stone (#51)

With his fake coup and all right?

He was not terribly effective. The USSR was unsalvageable. What Yeltsin brought was not an improvement. Putin's Russia is probably the best that the Russian people have ever experienced in all of their long and grim history.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-10-24   23:44:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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