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Title: When you die you know you're dead: Major study shows mind still works after the body shows no sign of life
Source: Independent
URL Source: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/s ... rnia-nyu-langone-a8007101.html
Published: Oct 18, 2017
Author: Dave Maclean
Post Date: 2017-10-18 13:54:36 by Willie Green
Keywords: None
Views: 101
Comments: 3

Death just became even more scary: scientists say people are aware they’re dead because their consciousness continues to work after the body has stopped showing signs of life.

That means that, theoretically, someone may even hear their own death being announced by medics.

The claim was made by Dr Sam Parnia, director of critical care and resuscitation research at NYU Langone School of Medicine in New York City.

He and his team are looking at people who suffered cardiac arrest, technically died, but were later revived. It’s the largest study of its type ever carried out.

Some of those studied say they had awareness of full conversations and seeing things that were going on around them, even after they were pronounced dead.

These accounts were then verified by the medical and nursing staff who were present at the time.

Death is defined as the point at which the heart no longer beats, and blood flow to the brain is cut off.

Dr Sam Parnia said: “Technically, that's how you get the time of death – it's all based on the moment when the heart stops.

“Once that happens, blood no longer circulates to the brain, which means brain function halts almost instantaneously.

“You lose all your brain stem reflexes – your gag reflex, your pupil reflex, all that is gone.”

However, there’s evidence to suggest that there’s a burst of brain energy as someone dies.

In 2013 researchers at the University of Michigan looked at the electrical signals inside the brains of nine anaesthetised rats having an induced heart attack.

They saw activity patterns which are linked to a “hyper-alerted state” in the brief period after clinical death.

Dr Parnia said: "In the same way that a group of researchers might be studying the qualitative nature of the human experience of 'love', for instance, we're trying to understand the exact features that people experience when they go through death, because we understand that this is going to reflect the universal experience we're all going to have when we die."


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#1. To: Willie Green (#0)

This is consistent with Michael Newton's work in which the explanation is not lingering neural activity in the brain, though it's not unreasonable that there would be some for a short time after blood flow stops, but rather that the soul can directly perceive these things independent of bodily functions.

As long as medical doctors go with the assumption that we are defined purely by the biochemical process of human life, they will continue to seek explanation of this type of phenomenon of awareness after death in terms of physical neural activity.

That they affirm this awareness is not scary. It should rather be considered a reason to be hopeful that death is not the end of us.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-10-18   14:10:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Willie Green (#0)

"Autopsy Room Four" by Stephen King.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-10-18   16:14:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Willie Green (#0)

That's because the mind is associated with the spirit part of the body whereas the body itself is just a shell cover for the spirit. That is why in scripture it is noted that "Your body is the house (church) and the spirit of god dwells within it." I remember telling that to a Biology teacher once and they totally rebuked on that claim saying "For the sake of this course, we will stick with the scientific facts." You don't mix science with God's creation. They just are not compatible.

goldilucky  posted on  2017-10-18   16:42:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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