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Title: The twilight of the elites...in the European Union
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URL Source: https://hotair.com/archives/2017/10 ... wilight-elites-european-union/
Published: Oct 17, 2017
Author: Jazz Shaw
Post Date: 2017-10-17 10:35:59 by Tooconservative
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Signs of that happening come to us with additional news in a similar vein this month. For one example, can you name the youngest national leader in the world right now? If you said Emanuel Macron you’re probably in the majority, but you’re also wrong. Macron is already almost an old man compared to the guy who is set to take power in Austria. That would be 31-year-old Sebastian Kurz, leader of the reinvigorated People’s Party (OeVP), who is about to topple the Socialist Democrat establishment in his nation. This has resulted in what the Washington Times’ Wesley Pruden describes as, “An Austrian thumb in the eye of the elites.” But the new Austrian chancellor, youthful as he is, represents just the kind of new blood that Kennedy brought to the fore in the new world. He has achieved something close to rock-star status. He took over a fading political party whose party colors were black and black, replaced them with turquoise, rebranded the party as “a movement,” promised to get tough on runaway immigration, go easy on new taxes but to stay in Europe and “put Austria first.” Did Kurz come up with “put Austria first” as a copy of Trump’s America First or did they arrive at those catchphrases independently? At this point, it doesn’t really matter. But there’s more of a similarity here than simple sloganeering. Check out the details of the Kurz platform which the Daily Mail described with palpable alarm. Some of this may ring a bell to American observers of politics. (Emphasis added) Kurz, dubbed the Conservative Macron due to his age and his party reform, said: ‘I would of course like to form a stable government. If that cannot be done then there are other options,’ adding that he planned to talk to all parties in parliament but would first wait for a count of postal ballots that begins on Monday. Kurz may form a coalition with either the now weakened Social Democrats or with the more right-wing Freedom Party. But he’s also indicating a willingness to simply go it alone if he can’t structure a deal in keeping with his campaign pledges. But Kurz isn’t the only one. The Czech Republic, also part of that same eastern block, is closing in on their own elections and if the current polling is remotely accurate the race won’t be all that close. Their next leader is most likely to be a far less youthful, but equally revolutionary gentleman who is being referred to as “the Czech Trump” or “the new Berlusconi,” depending who you ask. 63 year old Andrej Babis is the leader of the ANO party and is on track to take control. He’s similarly alarmed the defenders of the status quo with comments about how he is, “done with multiculturalism.” (The Telegraph) To be clear, I don’t believe any of this signals the absolute end of the European Union, nor will the socialist tendencies of their more western member countries be completely subsumed any time soon. Neither Kurz nor Babis is signaling an immediate move toward leaving the EU and both of their nations still benefit greatly from trade through that organization. But at the same time, they have no interest in having Brussels micromanage the affairs of their respective nations and they want their borders to be secured. And seeing how well Hungary has done in thumbing its nose at the EU, both of these men have little reason to fear reprisal. “Make Europe Great Again?” When I recently wrote about the possibility of a coming east-west schism in the European Union (EU), I focused primarily on Hungary and Poland. They’re part of that eastern block of countries which joined the EU a bit later and introduced a definite culture clash with their significantly more socialist, globalist neighbors in France and Brussels. Recent events to the east seem to have signaled a swift erosion of the older, established “elites” who have been running the show. But there are still more dominos left to fall. Herr Kurz is called “the Austrian Trump,” and not, to celebrate his youth, “the Austrian JFK,” which illustrates just how far time has marched on. Two generations have been birthed in Europe that can barely recognize the late president by his mere initials. The young leader, dubbed Wunderwuzzi in his home country, which translates to Wonderkid, has pledged to cut benefits for all foreigners in Austria and has vowed to stop the European Union meddling in the country’s politics. “We have other enemies than Russia. We have to fight the human traffickers in the Mediterranean. Twenty thousand have died in that sea. We have terrorism blighting Europe. What are we waiting for?” Mr. Babiš insisted that there are no genuine refugees arriving in Europe.
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#54. To: Tooconservative (#49)
You're making me uncomfortable. LOL Heh...(now that you mention it)
Since we've had a number of posts now based on this reindeer "farmer", I thought I'd mention a bit more about him. He's a Santa impersonator and his thing is getting his reindeer to pull a sleigh in parades and at special events. I can't find a picture of them actually pulling the sleigh. Bentivolio said he took up acting in movies to get rid of his stage fright in front of cameras. In 2010, he acted in the low budget movie Lucy's Law in the role of a TV News reporter.[9] In 2011, he appeared in another low budget political satire, The President Goes to Heaven.[10] . . . Bentivolio's wife Karen is a registered nurse. They have resided in Milford, Michigan since 1982 and live on a small farm raising reindeer trained to pull Santa’s sleigh in various parades and special holiday events within Michigan. They also maintain a small flock of chickens, a 25-hive apiary of honeybees, and a 115-vine vineyard. Bentivolio is an avid sportsman and bass fisherman. He is a novice golfer and enjoys clay pigeon shooting.[49] I don't think he milks the reindeer or the chickens. I have to wonder if he's brave enough to stand that close to the reindeer bucks during the rut. I know I wouldn't.
It would be in that price range, I think. At least initially.
Bwaahaa!
Dunno about that; the menage a buck look kinda...happy. Especially the mammal in the middle.
I like the bovine faces of the reindeer and their larger bodies (more meat/milk) and fur type. More attractive than deer or mooses (who have been known to bite your sister). The reindeer faces/bodies remind me more of cattle.
Remember, I'm Basque AND Sami. Basques have been fishing herring and milking sheep for something like 40,000 years. And Sami have been fishing herring and milking reindeer for about 30,000. The reindeer thing (and moose) is already a think in Samiland - has been since before anybody walked into America from Alaksa. But milking the WHITE TAILS, our kind of deer way down here - THAT is a new thing! Not hard to see why. Cows and yaks and buffalo are relatively docile (bison aren't - and nobody milked them), and sheep and goats are relatively docile and small, so you can manhandle them. There are those things wherever there are whitetails, and deer don't have the same production. So, to milk the deer would have meant trying to tame an immensely skittish, dangerously strong animal you can't manhandle, and that can get away, and kick the hell out of you...in other words, you get hurt a lot, and you get maybe a cup of milk out of them for your troubles. And the males will kill you during certain seasons (not that you're going to be milking the males (...not that there's anything wrong with that...)). OR you could just get three cups of milk everyday from a little goat that isn't going to randomly go berserk and kick you to death. Deer are hard. Reindeer are quite a bit more docile. You can actually harness them up to pull a sleight. Moose also. Try pulling a sleigh with whitetails. Think of the insane, tangled, braying, kicking goat rope that would be! There's a reason that we haven't tried this yet. But there's a reason to do it. Truth is, forests are good and clean the air, but they are really not economically productive at all, unless you chop them down (and then you h'ain't got no more forest). The deer naturally thrive in woodland, so if you turn them into vast semi- domesticated dairy herds, the forest becomes a source of ongoing meat, milk and soft deer leather that is native to the environment and does not require anything like the endless care that other dairy animals require. The forested vastness of Canada and Siberia is mostly uninhabited and has no economic function or much of a future other than to become Japanese chopsticks. Systematize cervid dairy, and suddenly there is a modest but steady stream of useful products that will generate more economic return and employ quite a few more people than simply slashing down the taiga. Also, because the milk is unique, wild and healthy, and a new thing, it could be done in a very different way. If you run the taiga whitetail farms (and red deer also) as wild organic no-kill, you could create a food supply for the animal loving niche, and no-kill soft leather.
Moose bytes kan be pretti nasti!
Those aren't necessarily bucks. The thing with reindeer. In the summer, the males have antlers to compete for females. But as winter comes, the male antlers fall off and the females grow antlers, which form a redoubtable antler wall around the babies when the snows come. The relatively defenseless males get eaten in the winter by the wolves, while the antlered females circle and defend their babies and themselves. Come spring, the females lose their antlers and the males gain theirs. So, when you look at Santa's sleigh, you note that all of the reindeer have antlers, and it's winter, which means that Dasher, Dancer, Prancer, Vixen, Comet, Cupid, Donner and Blitzen are all females. Rudolph is confused.
Of course. But you see, that is the CHALLENGE. My people have been milking reindeer for 40,000 years. And moose. But nobody's done the whitetails yet. The poor whitetails just get shot and hit by cars. But there they are, grazing milk producers that don't need pasture at all - they take care of themselves and feed themselves on your flowers. I would be happy to take on the body management duty too. Lots of deer get hit. That meat would make great dog food and cat food, and the pelts are the softest leather. Let me have the bodies. Let me tag the deer and raise up the females to be tame enough to approach later - we do not tame the males - they don't produce milk, and they are dangerous in rut. Leave the males wild, and leave the females part-wild. Give them safe pasture for birthing and baby raising - and milk them there. This lets you hand tame the new crop of babies. Let them run wild and free the rest of the year. A side effect will be to clean up the diseases that run in the wild and have a healthier herd. But this will remain just a dream unless I win the lottery.
I suppose you could milk the males also - produce the cervid equivalent of Elmer's glue. It doesn't seem like a rewarding job for most, but it would give an economic function to serious sex offenders. Putting them in cages is costly. Put them on Svalbard on reindeer male-milking duty and they will have a function. Then we just have to find something to do with reindeer jizz. I'm sure you can make a fortune on it as an "ancient medicinal substance" in China, and as the "secret ingredient" in cosmetic skin care products in the rich West.
Yes the pizza and change of seasons is well missed. But we make the most of it when we visit.
The best beaches of all are those of northern Lake Michigan. Bright clean sand, blue clear lakes, no salt, no jellyfish, no sharks, no pollution...practically no people. You never get thirsty on the beach because you just go swimming and drink the water.
OR you could just get three cups of milk everyday from a little goat that isn't going to randomly go berserk and kick you to death. Deer are hard. Reindeer are quite a bit more docile. You can actually harness them up to pull a sleight. Moose also. Try pulling a sleigh with whitetails. Think of the insane, tangled, braying, kicking goat rope that would be! Yeah, I'd stick with the reindeer. Or try the elk maybe. Whitetails (or mulies) seem like an exercise in masochistic husbandry.
I was unaware. I can see why it would work for the survival of the species in very harsh climates. Males are pretty dispensable once they've contributed sperm. And they eat too much for Mother Nature to keep them around through the winter.
You don't know any farmers, do you? The whitetail is an evil parasite. It lives off the finest feed you can produce. Your best alfalfas and clovers and wild hay and cane that you stockpile for the winter are a favorite target for these foul creatures. Naturally, much of the Midwest was untreed before man settled so these were not areas where deer were native. So farmers do resent that the states will board these parasites on their property, eating and destroying their best feed.
Well, plenty of males DO survive - probably most of them, year to year. (Also, it's the old males who shed their antlers in the winter; young males keep theirs, as the females grow theirs.) There aren't THAT many wolves, or polar bears. But it is the males that get eaten in the winter, yes. You figure that a wolf will eat about a deer a week, if that's all they have to eat (it isn't - they eat salmon, rodents, rabbits, etc.) so a pack of 20 will eat 20 a week. If they were just eating deer, that'd be 1040 deer a year. Reindeer herds run in the tens or hundreds of thousands, and it is really humans that keeps them limited. Wild herds in wild Siberia where there are no people run to over a million. The wolf and bear populations are large to match.
I have known a few, back home and down South. In Connecticut, the deer herd is large and suburban, and there are no farmers or hunters. Their biggest predators are coyotes and cars. You can't keep flowers where I live without a fence, and the fence has to be a high wall. The "deer repellent" they sell makes the deer unhappy, but if they are hungry enough, they'll eat whatever it is sprayed with anyway. And it washes off with the rain. Cows and sheep would be pests to crop farmers also, if they weren't herded.
I've seen some footage of their migrations. Awesome stuff. Reminds me of the migrations of wildebeests across the African savannas. Like the reindeer, they have predators waiting for them and following their migration (lions, crocs, hyenas, etc.). Sometimes you start to see these herd animals as Nature's protein transfer systems. But they are more than that. Hey, if milking the reindeer and whitetails doesn't work out, you could try the gnus! : )
Naturally, the parts of the Midwest where my folks headed were the tree- covered, lake-splotched, snowy far north of it. The Upper Peninsula of Michigan is like Finland, but without the glitter. Up there, crop farming is hard, and people really didn't. They fished and hunted, and mined copper and cut trees, and trapped fur, and moved the stuff around, for employment. Some tried to cut down the forest and plant crops, and you can make rutabagas and cabbages grow there...which the hares will promptly devour...and you can get that sort of stuff down the lake by trading the local products. Today, everything comes in by truck, and nobody mines copper or traps fur anymore for a living. But the deer are there, waiting for somebody to come and make a new industry. Nobody else is going to do it, because nobody believes in it. I win the lottery, and that's what I do - starting in Michigan. I love animals, get along with them, don't like to kill them. So I'm going "no kill" with two native species: the white-tails. I'm happy to add the moose and the elk to that, but that's for show and to get interest. The whitetails are the heart of the operation. No-kill whitetail dairy and leather. That's one line. I don't pretend that it would be easy, but I do believe that it is doable, and that after a decade or two of unprofitability, a steady if low margin profit stream can be generated by the milk and the leather - maybe the meat as dog food and cat food (you don't want to be eating meat that dies of natural causes). The other line would be more profitable: there are wild sturgeon in the great lakes, and they spawn in certain rivers. Sturgeon produce caviar. The Michigan sturgeon are not used for that, and there is only a limiting fishing season, but the point is that they ARE there, naturally - this is sturgeon habitat. That means that certain of the breeding pools can be established as a sturgeon hatchery. Now, here's the thing: a German fellow has developed a means to hand milk the eggs out of sturgeon females, such that the females are not killed and continue to grow. This or similar techniques are already used at a Latvian sturgeon farm and a South Korean one, which produce no-kill caviar thereby. The fish live and get bigger and bigger by the season (no longer having human predators), and produce more and more eggs. Deer milk, soft deer leather, and no-kill sturgeon caviar - straight from Northern Michigan. That's a good start. The third thing I have in mind is zebra mussel harvesting. Thanks to the St. Lawrence Seaway, the Great Lakes have become infested with zebra mussels. These shellfish are not noxious, but they do cover everything...including the insides of municipal water pipes, causing issues. Shellfish are edible, and mussels are good for you. Their shells concentrate calcium and potassium and, ground up, make enriching fertilizer. Harvesting those mussels - just stripping them off of stuff - would be a public service. And a process could be made, maybe, to extract the meats. Otherwise, just grind up the whole mass and make fertilizer or salmon feed. And finally, duck, goose, swan and seagull eggs. These waterfowl abound in a place where one is never more than 1 mile from some body of water. Michigan is a wet place. Wild birds are free range, and seagulls, at least, are not a remotely endangered species. So set up nesting and harvest some eggs. Then there are the trees themselves and their edible products. A lottery win means freedom to pursue these things. If God wants them to be, He will make it possible.
That's a gnu idea. But first we gotta try milking pigs.
The Michigan tourism board wouldn't care for that description. : ) Now that is interesting, providing you can avoid disease. You know the challenges for fish farms. Pretty much the original Republican Big Gooberment project. The ruinous demands for taxation of the South that set off the Civil War were to be used to fund such projects. Goddammed Yankee scum.
Other than some bacon and the occasional pork chop, I tend to agree with the opinions of the Jews about swine.
You let the sturgeon be wild. It's just that when they swim up the rivers to spawn, you gate them in during the season and milk some of the eggs from the large, wild fish. You don't pen them all year, and you do let them naturally reproduce. Unlike salmon, sturgeon swim up river, nest, spawn, and swim back out to the big lake afterwards. They'll do that for a hundred years and more if they aren't killed. So you protect them from hunting, and you protect their spawning ground, and you hand-harvest some of the eggs. And you otherwise let the fish be.
Alright then, dogs milk and cat milk. We can turn the dog pounds into producing dairies!
The St. Lawrence Seaway opened in 1959. Don't think it was a cause of the Civil War.
The Michigan Tourist Board actually ran a campaign about 20 years ago called "Say Nice Things About Detroit". Sounded to me more like a desperate plea than a call for tourism. I'm thinking that something more pungent like: "Bite the Bullet: Try Detroit". Or "Detroit Convention Center: Dirt cheap, and you probably won't die."
Ah, of course. I was thinking of the Erie Canal which was in operation prior to the Civil War. Nevertheless, the Whigs and early Republicans were all about big national works projects of that type and establishing central banking again, along with using the established federal troops to drive the Indians onto remote reservations to clear the way for settlers. There was a canal mania in Britain and France and here in the States, even before the American Revolution. Canal-building was a great passion of progressive big-government types. Most of these canals were boondoggles that were a waste of public money.
If you want to make some big money, try to find an inexpensive way to wipe out the feral hogs that are ruining land and crops from Michigan to Texas and across the South. Rural people get very excited when a herd is spotted. Around here, the very mention of a sighting of feral hogs results in people organizing and spending a weekend or more hunting down and killing every last one of them.
The Erie Canal opened up the Great Lakes to eastern goods. And it opened up the Great Lakes farms to Eastern markets.
Today is the anniversary of the opening of the Erie Canal in 1852. Saw it on CBS News channel via Roku just now. But Wiki sez it was 1825, a justaposition by SeeBS. Wiki details how the canal was deepened and widened over the years from 1825 through 1855. So I'll take Wiki's word for it. SeeBS strikes again. Probably they'll next show the charter of the Canal in proportional font with Dan Rather presenting...
I'd have to find some PURPOSE for the hogs other than bacon. Some could be trained to snuffle truffles, but most would need some other purpose. The purpose to which they could effectively be put would be as natural rototillers. It is a very old French practice to fence in an area of tough soil one would like to plant and just put some pigs in there and let them root around for a season. They turn over the soil, they fertilize it. It's a zero-labor way to (irregularly) till soil and fertilize it. The broken soil can then be double-dug for French intensive gardening. So, you don't need a modern rototiller or any sort of machines, or labor. Just rooting hogs. Of course, they have to be fed, but they can and will eat many things. I'd imagine that if an area is infested with wild pigs, you could do a no kill hunt, round them up and truck them out as a group. A single normal- sized pig can root up a 300 square foot area and turn it into a mud pit - a fertile mudpit beautiful for planting next season, so a 1000 pound wild sow could probably tear up a good 500 sf easily. Get 100 of them going, and you'd have 50,000 sf of deeply turned, fertilized, gorgeously prepared land for intensive vegetable farming, without the need for any human labor. That works out to about 80 pigs an acre to get the equivalent of double dug beds. Let me have every wild hog in Texas, and I have the free labor to prepare 30 square miles of fertilized farmland - almost 19,000 acres - for planting. Some fencing and water is cheaper than equipment, gas and salaries. Essentially, if I win the lottery, I'll be happy to turn all of the wild hogs you've got into slaves to till my soil. And while I'm at it, I'll infest oak trees with the spores of truffles and scatter the seedlings everywhere. Forests of oaks infected with the fungus will end up meaning forests of truffles...at $1000 a kg, over time, and some of my labor force can snuffle them up. Obviously a key thing to do with a lottery win is an exhaustive nutritional and utility study of every native plant. Look, lambsquarters is a weed. We rip it up, we poison it, we drive it out. But all it is is wild American spinach. It's as nutritious as spinach, and it's a lot hardier than spinach, and it grows without labor. Dogs can pull carts. They can also get excercise buy pulling things in a circle. Anything that can be pulled in a circle can be attached to a water pump to bring up water or a generator to make electricity. Animals die, and when they do, they are meat for other animals. Essentially, I need the economic liberty to do these things, because nobody will ever co-invest. They would all be profitable in the end, but it would take decades, maybe even a century, to get them in place. That requires humans with long vision and lots of free time. The humans I would seek out would be the outcasts, the wretched, the prisoners, the drug addicts, the sex offenders. Any of them who wanted to be part of something meaningful and have a position of economic security and respect would have a role in providing the brains and leadership behind various animals doing various things. Drug lab guys would make expert nutrition lab analyzers. It is known that working with animals makes violent people tamer, and makes a bond between man and animal. That has been used for prisoner rehab, but it doesn't last. But I can create a structure that will last a lifetime, produce what we need for food and clothing and shelter, and take the blade away from the animals' necks too - a bucolic symbiosis quite unlike conventional agriculture. The lottery win is needed, and the interest stream from the tax-free bonds into which it is invested, to make the ongoing investment, year after year after year, into something that will not produce any profit for a very long time, but which, if incubated long enough, can. The broken humans, and the "useless" animals, can be intertwined in ways that pattern French Intensive vegetable farming. Do it, build it, show how, and it would certainly be emulated, and it would get the financial support to remain a self-licking ice cream cone. If it grows, it's edible in some fashion. If it trots, it can do work until it dies, and then it can feed something with its flesh, and clothe somebody or make a tent for someone with its skin. But I dream strange dreams that others do not. No human would ever fund it, so God will have to if he wants it done. Give me a natural phenomenon, and I will show you a way to produce something useful from it, a small economic return than can employ some otherwise broken man.
I think you aren't acquainted with feral hogs. Anyway, this talk of swine is a turnoff. Reindeer, even parasite whitetals, are fine. But wild hogs? Ewww. Just kill them all. Use machine guns, toxic poisons, run over them with tanks, whatever it takes. You're a city person or you'd know that some things really do need killing. You have a bit of a Dr. Dolittle complex. It would not survive direct contact with nature.
You would be surprised at some of the places I've lived and things I've done. There is no doubt that there is a standard way of doing things. There is no doubt that I generally find these "ways" to be wanting, and look for other ways.
That's a good thing (are you striking distance to the Gulf?) IF I were you, I'd buy a YUGE freezer and import mega-quantities of pizza and Eyetalian bread. That's what my son misses most in NC.
But...how about the sea lampreys?
Yes, Bambi and its family are a disease. I am pinging The Cure: GI. *BLAM!!...*BLAM!!...*BLAM!!!*
Vic (chased by herds of Gnus and packs of Pigmies on his exploratory Gnu-Milk Safari in Africa): "PLAN 'B': Ostrich Milk." :-/
They are rather foul-tempered creatures. I've read that emus are a little less uppity.
There's a long list of critters we simply cannot be friends with like Dr. Doolittle (or preach to as Saint Francis of Assisi was claimed to do). Wolves, badgers, coyotes, mountain lions, grizzly bears, polar bears, tigers, lions, etc. Some people may claim to tame them. Then they end up mauled like Roy (of Siegfried & Roy fame). For some reason, German and Brit animal trainers have to learn these lessons the hard way: they're never really tame and their disposition toward human beings can change in a heartbeat. And that, as Marlin Perkins would tell us, is the Wild Kingdom at work (even as he sent poor Jim far downrange unarmed to scout the local lions). When we have some experience and husbandry savvy with domesticated species, it is easy to convince ourselves that any animal can be tamed to be gentle and trustworthy. Well, it just isn't true.
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#55. To: All, Vicomte13, redleghunter, Liberator (#22)
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TheLibertyConservative: Reindeer Farmer Turned Congressman Hopes To Regain Lost House Seat In 2018
Bentiviolio has worked as an autoworker, reindeer rancher, automotive designer, teacher, commercial home builder, Santa Claus for hire, and amateur actor before running for political office.[6][8] He taught in private schools, public schools, and adult education institutions. 
#56. To: Liberator (#52)
I can see Whole Foods carrying Reindeer milk. Say $12 per quart (is that enough??)
#57. To: Tooconservative (#55)
I don't think he milks the reindeer or the chickens.
#58. To: Tooconservative (#55)
I have to wonder if he's brave enough to stand that close to the reindeer bucks during the rut.
#59. To: Liberator (#58)
#60. To: Tooconservative (#49)
It may take a generation or so.
#61. To: Tooconservative (#59)
who have been known to bite your sister
#62. To: Tooconservative (#55)
#63. To: Tooconservative (#50)
I think you might be more commercially viable with elk than with whitetail or reindeer.
#64. To: All (#63)
#65. To: Liberator (#40)
Btw, dunno how anybody can leave NY/NJ/CT pizza and beaches for...Texas ;-/
#66. To: redleghunter (#65)
Btw, dunno how anybody can leave NY/NJ/CT pizza and beaches for...Texas ;-/ Yes the pizza and change of seasons is well missed. But we make the most of it when we visit.
#67. To: Vicomte13 (#60)
There are those things wherever there are whitetails, and deer don't have the same production. So, to milk the deer would have meant trying to tame an immensely skittish, dangerously strong animal you can't manhandle, and that can get away, and kick the hell out of you...in other words, you get hurt a lot, and you get maybe a cup of milk out of them for your troubles. And the males will kill you during certain seasons (not that you're going to be milking the males (...not that there's anything wrong with that...)).
#68. To: Vicomte13 (#62)
So, when you look at Santa's sleigh, you note that all of the reindeer have antlers, and it's winter, which means that Dasher, Dancer, Prancer, Vixen, Comet, Cupid, Donner and Blitzen are all females. Rudolph is confused.
#69. To: Vicomte13 (#63)
But nobody's done the whitetails yet. The poor whitetails just get shot and hit by cars. But there they are, grazing milk producers that don't need pasture at all - they take care of themselves and feed themselves on your flowers.
#70. To: Tooconservative (#68)
#71. To: Tooconservative (#69)
You don't know any farmers, do you?
#72. To: Vicomte13 (#70)
Wild herds in wild Siberia where there are no people run to over a million. The wolf and bear populations are large to match.
#73. To: Tooconservative (#69)
Naturally, much of the Midwest was untreed before man settled so these were not areas where deer were native.
#74. To: Tooconservative (#72)
#75. To: Vicomte13 (#73)
like Finland, but without the glitter.
Now, here's the thing: a German fellow has developed a means to hand milk the eggs out of sturgeon females, such that the females are not killed and continue to grow. This or similar techniques are already used at a Latvian sturgeon farm and a South Korean one, which produce no-kill caviar thereby.
Thanks to the St. Lawrence Seaway, the Great Lakes have become infested with zebra mussels.
#76. To: Vicomte13 (#74)
But first we gotta try milking pigs.
#77. To: Tooconservative (#75)
Now that is interesting, providing you can avoid disease. You know the challenges for fish farms.
#78. To: Tooconservative (#76)
Other than some bacon and the occasional pork chop, I tend to agree with the opinions of the Jews about swine.
#79. To: Tooconservative (#75)
The ruinous demands for taxation of the South that set off the Civil War were to be used to fund such projects.
#80. To: Tooconservative (#75)
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The Michigan tourism board wouldn't care for that description. : )
#81. To: Vicomte13 (#79)
#82. To: Vicomte13 (#80)
The Michigan Tourist Board actually ran a campaign about 20 years ago called "Say Nice Things About Detroit". Sounded to me more like a desperate plea than a call for tourism.
#83. To: Tooconservative (#81)
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#84. To: Vicomte13 (#83)
#85. To: Tooconservative (#82)
If you want to make some big money, try to find an inexpensive way to wipe out the feral hogs
#86. To: Vicomte13 (#85)
#87. To: Tooconservative (#86)
You're a city person or you'd know that some things really do need killing. You have a bit of a Dr. Dolittle complex. It would not survive direct contact with nature.
#88. To: redleghunter (#65)
Yes the pizza and change of seasons is well missed. But we make the most of it when we visit.
#89. To: Vicomte13 (#66)
The best beaches of all are those of northern Lake Michigan. Bright clean sand, blue clear lakes, no salt, no jellyfish, no sharks, no pollution...
#90. To: Tooconservative, GrandIsland (#69)
The whitetail is an evil parasite.
#91. To: Tooconservative, Vicomte13, redleghunter (#72)
Hey, if milking the reindeer and whitetails doesn't work out, you could try the gnus! : )
#92. To: Liberator (#91)
"PLAN 'B': Ostrich Milk."
#93. To: Liberator (#90)
*BLAM!!...*BLAM!!...*BLAM!!!*
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