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Title: Just Great! The Las Vegas BULLSHIT TYMELINE was just "readjusted."
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Published: Oct 13, 2017
Author: buckeroo
Post Date: 2017-10-13 18:40:51 by buckeroo
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This loser US government, coupled with Nevada government and Clark County government along with a pile of keystone cops in Las Vegas ... just announced a new tymeline about all the significant events. As taxpayers, don't you want the fact straight from the beginning? I wager hundreds of millions of dollars from useless government bureaucrats was just expended and with NO RESULTS from their "readjustments."
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#19. To: randge (#18)
Everywhere you turn in this puzzle palace of a tragedy you find yet more pieces that don't fit. Yup. Exactamundo.
Thanks... Loomer kicks azz.
Business as usual. 110% bullsh*t. Online investigators are out-investigating LE "OFFICIAL Investigation" -- despite their scrubbing of as much evidence as possible. They are now challenging the American people to see just how much they can LIE and to what extent. They'll now monitor as many online opinions and dissemination for degrees of outrage and effectiveness.
I am starting to form an opinion that something is going on with the various government agencies changing significant points all the tyme. The issue of the claimed shooting of Campos of about six minutes before the mass crowd rampage is a serious consideration. WHY? From my perspective the change in timing is in the favour of Mandalay Bay (from 6 minutes to zero minutes); this timing represents a limit towards preventative efforts by Mandalay Bay staff; it means that lawsuits are limited to zero.
Has anyone considered the question of "WHY" the presumable thousands of shell casings that should have been evident within Paddock's Mandalay Bay room has not been published in a picture format and made available to the publick?
Maybe because the investigation isn't complete, dip shit? I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Just a few shells in my opinion.
The FBI/Fusion Center LEO's haven't yet noticed the thousands of shell casings that they're walking on?
See photos just above, retired cross_walk_guard sucking life, liberty and freedoms.
Those pictures were leaked... dumb shit. LE is not gonna comment on leaked photos.
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Hey was supposedly back in the room. A thousand rapid-fire hot shell casings in on the room floor might have melted the carpet or set if on fire, and should have created enough smoke to set of smoke alarms.
The shooter(s) had enough rifles to switch out without them getting hot enough to be a problem. Other shooting locations, if any, we haven't seen yet.
A comparison photo I found, showing how Paddock's suite was supported to look.
Other leaked photos, showing here some concentration of spent shells where you would expect to see them relative to the window that was broken out to fire from. The crime scene was never pristine. The use of explosives to open the suite's doors, resulting in blowing one of them off its hinges, indicates that there was enough wind from the explosives that it almost certainly moved some brass around on the floor of the suite. It still doesn't look like enough brass to me but that could have a number of explanations.
I doubt the ability to shoot about a thousand rounds in rapid fire bursts, dump the casings on a carpet, and not have a smoking mess. Graphic death photo of Paddock. Notice revolver in photo has a shell casing on top of it. Of course, what we see on the internet is of unknown provenance. https://twitter.com/RealAlexJones/status/915258188181753857/photo/1 - - - - - - - - - - Pete, as somebody with weapons experience, do you have any opinion you could share about what weapon you believe your hear on the Las Vegas recording? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mXe9dk77bk&feature=youtu.be Proof that a M240 Machine Gun used in Las Vegas Shooting @ Mandalay Bay Machine Gun The rate of fire and waveforms match almost exactly. If you have ever used a bump fire you know they are finnicky at best and certainly not capable of firing a perfect 74 round burst as shown in this video.
The issue is not the rifle getting hot, but rapid gunfire bursts dropping about a thousand hot shell casing on the carpet. The shooter could not switch in the middle of a rapid fire burst. We actually have no shooting location yet, unless you have seen proof that shots exited from 32135 of Mandalay Bay. The case that Lee Harvey Oswald was the shooter, and the fatal shots came from the School Book Depository, is still sort of thin.
Hence my mention of the violent air turbulence caused by using explosives to blow off at least one of the suite's doors. If an explosive resulted in a momentary blast of 40mph-70mph wind in the suite in front of the doors (located in front of the body and main shooting window), then the exact locations of brass can't tell us anything reliable.
The case that Lee Harvey Oswald was the shooter, and the fatal shots came from the School Book Depository, is still sort of thin. Well, I guess we don't have answers to everything so we may as well drag the JFK kook theories into it right now. That'll certainly help us understand the Vegas massacre which occurred almost immediately after the JFK killing, a scant 54 years later.
With a vertical forearm grip this thing might get pretty dang HOT, yet might not burn the operator! So it seems possible to burn some carpet with something like this. You might be right, but we need more data on what went on in that room.
It will help explain why the citizenry do not trust government explanations of lone nuts and lone wolves. Official government explanations have been going downhill since the Lincoln assassination and the School for Perjury. The official JFK theory, dependent on magic bullets, was indeed a kook conspiracy theory.
The last thing I would expect to place a casing on top of a gun, and have it stay there, would be an explosion.
No. All I can tell is it is automatic weapons fire. I can't even guess at the weapon or the caliber from the recordings. The AK systems were unique in that when facing the muzzle they make a "kak,kak,kak" sound,but in general you know what you are being fired at by the noise the round makes and the cyclic rate of fire. It's been a LONG time,but I seem to remember you could tell if you were being fired at by a RPD instead of an AK because the RPD had a higher rate of fire and no "kak,kak,kak" sound. They both fired the same round. The M240 above fires the 7.62mm/.308 round,not the 5.56mm/.223 round fired by the AR-15 and M-16/M-4 series rifles/machine guns that the shooter in Vegas was using. BTW,the M-249 SAW (Squad Automatic Weapon) also fires the 5.56/.223 round,but I have heard no reports the shooter had one of these. I would be surprised if he did because AFAIK,they are not and never have been for sale commercially,and the US Military keeps a pretty close eye on them. You ain't seen panic until you have seen the military reaction to a missing automatic weapon. Also,these rounds were fired in a city with high-rise buildings that would create echos to distort the sound,so you would be better off asking someone who has recent experience in city warfare in the Muddle East,than someone whose experience was in the jungles and open spaces. Also,I am reasonably certain I was never fired at with M-16'S or anything else shooting the 5.56/.233 round,and they all sound different when you hear the sound of the shot while being shot at with it instead of shooting it. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Exactly. Not to mention the SWAT team guys running in and kicking brass around with their feet. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
I've had my M-16 get hot enough I had to to take my jungle hat off and use it on the top of the forearm shields when firing at massed NVA from ambush. I carried it with a sling over my shoulder so it would be horizontal at waist-level when both hands were free,and when firing on full-auto (something I rarely did) my hand would be on top of the barrel shrouds to prevent muzzle climb. It never got that hot until after several 20 round magazines had been emptied one right after the other,though. From what I understand and suspect,the shooter in Vegas was shooting 30 round magazines,and then switching rifles,so his wouldn't have gotten that hot. So it seems possible to burn some carpet with something like this. You might be right, but we need more data on what went on in that room. Fired brass isn't going to get hot enough to set carpet on fire. Especially not the synthetic carpet used in commercial buildings. I have seen M-60 Machine guns get hot enough they "run-away" and keep firing even after you take your finger off the trigger. The only way to stop them is to let them run the belt out,or twist the belt so it quits feeding. I had a good friend killed by a "cook-off" on a jammed M-60 while he was at a MG range teaching indigenous troops how to fire and maintain them. Long experience with weapons over 10+ years made him too casual about his own safety,and while he was waiting for it to cool down so he could dismantle it to clear the jam,he just laid it down on the bipod and walked downrange too change the targets. The round jammed in the chamber "cooked off" while he was walking back to the firing line,and took his spine out. This guy survived several tours in VN and surrounding ares with Special Operations,and basically killed himself due to carelessness during a training mission. You NEVER set a hot weapon down that is jammed with a round in the chamber. You ALWAYS hold it with the muzzle pointing downrange until it cools down enough to dismantle it. My friend would probably still be alive today if he had just had someone hold the M-60 with the muzzle pointing in the air until he got back,or had just sat there until it cooled enough to disassemble it. BTW,I have personally had hot brass fly into the open neck of my jungle fatigues and burn my skin a little,but it was only a minor burn and it never came close to igniting the shirt. Hot brass just isn't going to set a carpet on fire. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Why? It had to end up coming to rest somewhere,and all sorts of weird things happen during explosions. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
The posted photo earlier is not that clear. I'm not sure that that is a shell casing sitting on the revolver. And you're the only person I've heard allege that it is. Plenty of other people mention that some shell casings are sitting clean, on top of the blood from Paddock's head wound but you're the only one I've seen saying that there is a spent casing on top of the revolver. So I'm not sure that I see any casing on the revolver. Maybe you should just post the exact photo you think is the best one so we know if we're talking about the same photo. Generally, anything you got from Twitter should show up here at LF. Here, for instance, is a sample from Twitter. The poster is a CTer but makes no mention of this magical casing on the revolver. The more I look at it, the more unlikely it seems that that is a spent shell casing. It's just part of the revolver. If you have a better pic to support your theory, post it.
All I see on the revolver is blood and maybe tissue splatter. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
There is just above the trigger guard and trigger something that looks somewhat cylindrical, like maybe a shell casing. But it is much larger than the other shell casings in the picture. Is that a normal part of that revolver? Do you recognize what kind of revolver it is? Could that be some after-market laser sight or flashlight? It does look a bit odd so I see why some people might think it is a casing.
Is that a normal part of that revolver? No,and it's not an accessory,either. Revolver cylinders swing out to the left to be loaded or unloaded,and anything mounted there would prevent you from loading the gun. Do you recognize what kind of revolver it is? Judging from the cylinder release slide on the side and the shape of the grip,I'm guessing it is a 38 Special Smith and Wesson. Since I can't see the rest of the revolver, I could be wrong,though. It does look a bit odd so I see why some people might think it is a casing. I don't know what it is,but given that it appears to be stainless steel or silver,I seriously doubt it is a casing from a rifle. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Maybe it's a less common handgun. This S&W 642-2 looks awfully close, no hammer protruding, shape of the grips and proportion is right, that little dot in the middle of the grips, etc. Funny how they identify all the other guns but won't tell us what the handgun is. Supposedly it was a recent purchase from the gun shop Guns & Guitars in Mesquite, NV. I agree with you. It is too shiny. I think that photo is just a trick of the light.
Less common? Than what,welfare recipients? Those things are all over the place,and all of those S&W compact/snubnose/hideout revolvers have the same mechanicals with only minor differences. For example,that one doesn't have a hammer spur and is rated to stay together while firing hot "Plus P" 38 Special loads,and the lightweight version with the aluminum frame is only rated for standard velocity 38 Special loads. The "little dot" you are writing about is the screw that holds the grips on the frame. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Well, all that aside, I think I have found the right revolver or something very close to it. The original picture we're using is so crappy that I can't be 100% certain. I'm about 95% certain though.
Only because when metal lands on metal, it tends to bounce off.
Thanks for the comment. The only reservation I have is declaring what guns the shooter was using absent what type of ammunition was found in the autopsies or at the target site. It may be that all fire came from AR-15 and was 5.56mm/.223, from room 32135, but I canot rule out shots from a different location with any possible weapon not included in the room. Yes. This screws up identifying things on the Taxi Lady recording, notably the path taken by echoes of a 32nd floor shot getting to, and moreso returning to, the taxi at ground level. Many reports of shots from multple directions may have been caused by echoes.
I posted a link, not a photo. My #33: https://twitter.com/RealAlexJones/status/915258188181753857/photo/1 - - - - - - - - - - The more I look at it, the weapon appears to be a revolver and a part does not go there.
Good comment. But the "thingy" is not a shell casing; a laser add-on?
Only because when metal lands on metal, it tends to bounce off. Good point. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
No. Whatever it is,is just laying there. If it were connected and located there,it would prevent the cylinder from swinging open to load or unload the gun. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Sumtymes the physical forces about a traumatic event, such as the terrorist committing suicide after his incredible aggression, offsets your comments into meaningless little silly details. If he oft'd himself, that means his body fell with the full impact of weight; the fat body weight of about 250 lbs would have collapsed to the ground immediately. The impact to the ground is further carried forward into any instrumentation or connected "tools" such as a handgun. The physical forces applied impact the distribution of any instrumentation to include the handgun.
In the way of a revolver cylinder? I don't think so. For my purposes, it is irrelevant whether the object on the revolver is a casing or a generic widget. It is an object, not part of the revolver, which could only have gotten onto the revolver after the revolver had come to rest on the floor. It is ust something that appears out of place for the authorities to explain. Allegedly, the dead body is Paddock and he shot himself in the mouth with that revolver. He is positioned on the floor, flat on his back, with the top of his head oriented to be nearest the revolver. Had he been standing with his back to the photographed revolver position, and fallen on his back, that would be his position on the floor. If he stood and put the gun in his mouth, and pulled the trigger, the kick of the gun would have been in the opposite direction, and if the gun took a direct path to where it is at in the picture, it would have had to go through his head. If he managed a reflex backward, underhand throw somehow after the shot, it still seems more likely it would be on one side or the other. Of course, the first cops in could have moved the revolver away from the body. By itself, the photo does not indicate that it is meant to depict the scene as it was found, prior to any change.
Good point. On second thought, an hour after Paddock took a bullet in the mouth, the gun may have been a sticky mess.
So it's reported that Jesus Campos is not a registered security guard in the State of Nevada. It's also said that MGM has scrubbed Campos from its employee profiles.
#20. To: nolu chan, Deckard, Randge, Stoner, A K A Stoner (#15)
#21. To: buckeroo (#0)
...Useless government bureaucrats was just expended and with NO RESULTS from their "readjustments."
#22. To: Liberator (#21)
#23. To: All (#22)
#24. To: buckeroo (#23)
Has anyone considered the question of "WHY" the presumable thousands of shell casings that should have been evident within Paddock's Mandalay Bay room has not been published in a picture format and made available to the publick?
#25. To: All (#23)
#26. To: GrandIsland, buckeroo (#24)
Maybe because the investigation isn't complete, dip shit?
#27. To: GrandIsland (#24)
#28. To: buckeroo (#27)
#29. To: buckeroo (#23)
Has anyone considered the question of "WHY" the presumable thousands of shell casings that should have been evident within Paddock's Mandalay Bay room has not been published in a picture format and made available to the publick?
#30. To: nolu chan (#29)
(Edited)
A thousand rapid-fire hot shell casings in on the room floor might have melted the carpet or set if on fire, and should have created enough smoke to set of smoke alarms.
#31. To: buckeroo (#25)
#32. To: GrandIsland, nolu chan (#28)
(Edited)
#33. To: Tooconservative, GrandIsland, sneakypete (#32)
It still doesn't look like enough brass to me but that could have a number of explanations.
Published on Oct 4, 2017
#34. To: hondo68 (#30)
The shooter(s) had enough rifles to switch out without them getting hot enough to be a problem. Other shooting locations, if any, we haven't seen yet.
#35. To: nolu chan, GrandIsland (#33)
Notice revolver in photo has a shell casing on top of it.
#36. To: nolu chan (#34)
We actually have no shooting location yet, unless you have seen proof that shots exited from 32135 of Mandalay Bay.
#37. To: nolu chan, The Graduate II (#34)
#38. To: Tooconservative (#36)
Well, I guess we don't have answers to everything so we may as well drag the JFK kook theories into it right now. That'll certainly help us understand the Vegas massacre which occurred almost immediately after the JFK killing, a scant 54 years later.
#39. To: Tooconservative (#35)
If an explosive resulted in a momentary blast of 40mph-70mph wind in the suite in front of the doors (located in front of the body and main shooting window), then the exact locations of brass can't tell us anything reliable.
#40. To: nolu chan (#33)
(Edited)
Pete, as somebody with weapons experience, do you have any opinion you could share about what weapon you believe your hear on the Las Vegas recording?
#41. To: Tooconservative (#35)
Hence my mention of the violent air turbulence caused by using explosives to blow off at least one of the suite's doors. If an explosive resulted in a momentary blast of 40mph-70mph wind in the suite in front of the doors (located in front of the body and main shooting window), then the exact locations of brass can't tell us anything reliable.
#42. To: hondo68 (#37)
With a vertical forearm grip this thing might get pretty dang HOT, yet might not burn the operator!
#43. To: nolu chan (#39)
The last thing I would expect to place a casing on top of a gun, and have it stay there, would be an explosion.
#44. To: nolu chan, sneakypete (#39)
(Edited)
The last thing I would expect to place a casing on top of a gun, and have it stay there, would be an explosion.
#45. To: Tooconservative (#44)
The more I look at it, the more unlikely it seems that that is a spent shell casing. It's just part of the revolver.
#46. To: sneakypete, nolu chan (#45)
#47. To: Tooconservative (#46)
here is just above the trigger guard and trigger something that looks somewhat cylindrical, like maybe a shell casing. But it is much larger than the other shell casings in the picture.
#48. To: sneakypete, nolu chan (#47)
(Edited)
#49. To: Tooconservative (#48)
Maybe it's a less common handgun. This S&W 642-2 looks awfully close, no hammer protruding, shape of the grips and proportion is right, that little dot in the middle of the grips, etc.
#50. To: sneakypete, nolu chan (#49)
#51. To: sneakypete (#43)
Why?
#52. To: sneakypete (#40)
The M240 above fires the 7.62mm/.308 round, not the 5.56mm/.223 round fired by the AR-15 and M-16/M-4 series rifles/machine guns that the shooter in Vegas was using.
Also,these rounds were fired in a city with high-rise buildings that would create echos to distort the sound
#53. To: Tooconservative, sneakypete (#44)
The posted photo earlier is not that clear.
Graphic death photo of Paddock. Notice revolver in photo has a shell casing on top of it. Of course, what we see on the internet is of unknown provenance.
The more I look at it, the more unlikely it seems that that is a spent shell casing. It's just part of the revolver.
#54. To: nolu chan, Tooconservative, sneakypete (#53)
The more I look at it, the weapon appears to be a revolver and a part does not go there.
#55. To: nolu chan (#51)
Why?
#56. To: buckeroo (#54)
But the "thingy" is not a shell casing; a laser add-on?
#57. To: sneakypete (#56)
#58. To: buckeroo, Tooconservative, sneakypete (#54)
But the "thingy" is not a shell casing; a laser add-on?
#59. To: sneakypete (#55)
Only because when metal lands on metal, it tends to bounce off.
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