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Title: Experts Warn Congress: North Korean EMP Would Kill '90% of Americans' -- Consider Nuke First Strike
Source: DailyWire
URL Source: http://www.dailywire.com/news/22236 ... n-emp-would-kill-ryan-saavedra
Published: Oct 13, 2017
Author: Ryan Saavedra
Post Date: 2017-10-13 13:48:52 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 1639
Comments: 19

Two EMP experts warned Congress on Thursday that North Korea is capable of executing an EMP attack over the United States which would send the U.S. back to the stone age and would lead to the deaths of 90 percent of all Americans within one year.

Chairman Dr. William R. Graham and Chief of Staff Dr. Peter Vincent Pry of the Commission to Assess the Threat to the United States from Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) Attack told the Committee on Homeland Security that the U.S. is now facing a “doomsday scenario” as U.S. intelligence under the Obama administration grossly underestimated the capabilities of North Korea.

Former NASA rocket scientist James Oberg visited North Korea’s Sohae space launch base, witnessed elaborate measures undertaken to conceal space launch payloads, and concludes in a 2017 article that the EMP threat from North Korea’s satellites should be taken seriously:
…there have been fears expressed that North Korea might use a satellite to carry a small nuclear warhead into orbit and then detonate it over the United States for an EMP strike. These concerns seem extreme and require an astronomical scale of irrationality on the part of the regime. The most frightening aspect, I’ve come to realize, is that exactly such a scale of insanity is now evident in the rest of their space program.

Graham and Pry referenced writing from Ambassador Henry Cooper – former Director of the U.S. Strategic Defense Initiative, and a preeminent expert on missile defenses and space weapons – who has repeatedly warned U.S. officials about the threat presented by North Korea:
U.S. ballistic missile defense (BMD) interceptors are designed to intercept a few North Korean ICBMs that approach the United States over the North Polar region. But current U.S. BMD systems are not arranged to defend against even a single ICBM that approaches the United States from over the South Polar region, which is the direction toward which North Korea launches its satellites… So, North Korea doesn’t need an ICBM to create this existential threat. It could use its demonstrated satellite launcher to carry a nuclear weapon over the South Polar region and detonate it…over the United States to create a high-altitude electromagnetic pulse (HEMP)…The result could be to shut down the U.S. electric power grid for an indefinite period, leading to the death within a year of up to 90 percent of all Americans—as the EMP Commission testified over eight years ago.

Graham and Pry stated the U.S. now faces a serious and potentially imminent threat of a nuclear EMP attack from North Korea and that immediate action is needed:

  • Just six months ago, most experts thought North Korea’s nuclear arsenal was primitive, some academics claiming it had as few as 6 A-Bombs. Now the intelligence community reportedly estimates North Korea has 60 nuclear weapons.
  • Just six months ago, most experts thought North Korea’s ICBMs were fake, or if real could not strike the U.S. mainland. Now the intelligence community reportedly estimates North Korea’s ICBMs can strike Denver and Chicago, and perhaps the entire United States.
  • Just six months ago, most experts thought North Korea was many years away from an H-bomb. Now it appears North Korea has H-Bombs comparable to sophisticated U.S. two-stage thermonuclear weapons.
  • Just six months ago, most experts claimed North Korean ICBMs could not miniaturize an ABomb or design a reentry vehicle for missile delivery. Now the intelligence community reportedly assesses North Korea has miniaturized nuclear weapons, and has developed reentry vehicles for missile delivery, including by ICBMs that can strike the U.S.

Congress received a variety of solutions for the mid-term and long-term in how they should approach the situation – however Graham and Pry did not mince words about what President Donald Trump needs to do, immediately:
We recommend that the President declare that EMP or cyber-attacks that blackout or threaten to blackout the national electric grid constitute the use of weapons of mass destruction that justify preemptive and retaliatory responses by the United States using all possible means, including nuclear weapons.

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#1. To: Tooconservative (#0)

Two EMP experts warned Congress on Thursday that North Korea is capable of executing an EMP attack over the United States which would send the U.S. back to the stone age

Do you think the we would allow North Korea to launch and detonate a 1 megaton nuclear device over the United States?

Oh, a country would be sent back to the stone age alright, but it wouldn't be the United States.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-10-13   14:16:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Tooconservative (#0)

This article is PROOF that experts suck. They can't get anything right.

buckeroo  posted on  2017-10-13   14:34:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: buckeroo (#2)

Maybe you should write a letter to your congressman and tell him how things really are.

Oh, right, you don't have a congressman, do you?

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-13   14:42:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Tooconservative (#3)

Maybe you should write a letter to your congressman and tell him how things really are.

What would be the point? One of the congressman's 100+ (paid for by the US government) staff members will place the letter into a "bad" pile or a "good" pile based on a cursory read. The congressman will be requested by the staff member to just evaluate the height of the two piles irrespective of any peruse of the content matter.

If my letter is in the "good" pile, the congressman will pursue the will of his lobbyists which has little to do with my perspective. The letter then goes into the shredder, never to be reviewed again.

If my letter is in the "bad" pile, it just goes into the shredder with no other action taken after the congressman evaluates the size of the piles of letters.

Any letter written to a congressman is meaningless, in other words.

buckeroo  posted on  2017-10-13   15:00:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: buckeroo (#4)

You don't have a congressman, bucky.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-13   15:03:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Tooconservative (#5) (Edited)

Further PROOF that there is no merit to write a congressman, isn't it? The USA is broke. The only way out is to get OUT!

buckeroo  posted on  2017-10-13   15:11:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: buckeroo (#6)

Why do you care? You've already abandoned America.

Too late for you to kneel or to stand for the anthem, bucky.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-13   15:18:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Tooconservative, buckeroo (#0)

North Korea doesn’t need an ICBM to create this existential threat. It could use its demonstrated satellite launcher to carry a nuclear weapon over the South Polar region and detonate it…over the United States to create a high-altitude electromagnetic pulse (HEMP)…

They're hiding the worst of it. You won't be able to receive The Donald's tweets, and give them the thumbs up!

Hondo68  posted on  2017-10-13   16:08:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: hondo68 (#8)

Even an EMP won't stop The Donald from issuing his mighty tweets.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-13   16:09:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Tooconservative (#7)

Why do you care? You've already abandoned America.

Too late for you to kneel or to stand for the anthem, bucky.

Exactly. He's a waste of forum space. Don't waste your time on that nut case.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2017-10-13   16:29:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Tooconservative (#0)

Experts Warn Congress: North Korean EMP Would Kill '90% of Americans'

If NK might have this ability, then China and Russia already have it, in which case, US national security is very much in jeopardy anyway, and the US really needs to start being nice to other countries on the planet.

90% is an exaggeration, though of course, even 10% would be enormously catastrophic.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-10-13   16:59:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Tooconservative (#7)

Too late for you to kneel or to stand for the anthem ...

Now, you are attempting to tie me into this NFL BULLSHIT.

Fuck you, pal.

buckeroo  posted on  2017-10-13   18:12:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: buckeroo (#12)

I'm not your pal, buddy.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-13   18:22:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Tooconservative (#13)

No kidding, pal. You are completely off-the-wall in your remarcks. You are crazed from morn to the darkest hours of nigh, obsessed with your own posts. You don't actually read anyone's posts other than your own.

You are like a BULLSHITTER "congressman" or any politician that doesn't do anything of merit. In America, there is little merit anymore. Get out, while you can!

buckeroo  posted on  2017-10-13   18:31:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: buckeroo (#14) (Edited)

You don't actually read anyone's posts other than your own.

I did read your post. It was: beware the experts!

You offered nothing else. It was one of your usual nothing posts.

from morn to the darkest hours of nigh

Well, pardon me, King James.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-13   18:39:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Tooconservative (#0)

For less than 50 Billion dollars, the power supply system could be hardened to protect the entire country from an EMP. Sounds like a good deal right? Actually the cost is much lower, I have heard it is in the neighborhood of 10 Billion. Pocket change, no problem you would think. Actually, the estimate is it would cost 3 Billion dollars, yet nothing is being done. Does anyone have the ear of President Trump? This would be a GREAT policy to push.

Exercising rights is only radical to two people, Tyrants and Slaves. Which are YOU? Our ignorance has driven us into slavery and we do not recognize it.

jeremiad  posted on  2017-10-14   13:35:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: jeremiad (#16)

I agree we should harden the grid, especially the biggest transformer stations. Those things take years to manufacture and install. As we know, they are also quite vulnerable to terrorism and there was at least one dry run at a major transformer station using a deer rifle to hit its coolant tank a few years back.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-14   13:39:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Tooconservative (#0)

Two EMP experts warned Congress on Thursday that North Korea is capable of executing an EMP attack over the United States which would send the U.S. back to the stone age and would lead to the deaths of 90 percent of all Americans within one year.

A nonsense. Even if they managed to explode such device, it would damage part of electronic equipment over limited area. The deaths would be on small scale - in car accidents, failed surgical operations, maybe airplanes.

The main damage would be to the economy and prolonged mess (much longer than after hurricane but fixable).

A Pole  posted on  2017-11-05   19:20:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Pinguinite, Y'ALL, tooconservarive (#11)

current U.S. BMD systems are not arranged to defend against even a single ICBM that approaches the United States from over the South Polar region, which is the direction toward which North Korea launches its satellites… So, North Korea doesn’t need an ICBM to create this existential threat. It could use its demonstrated satellite launcher to carry a nuclear weapon over the South Polar region and detonate it…over the United States to create a high-altitude electromagnetic pulse (HEMP)…The result could be to shut down the U.S. electric power grid for an indefinite period, leading to the death within a year of up to 90 percent of all Americans—as the EMP Commission testified over eight years ago.

If NK might have this ability, then China and Russia already have it, in which case, US national security is very much in jeopardy anyway, and the US really needs to start being nice to other countries on the planet. ---- 90% is an exaggeration, though of course, even 10% would be enormously catastrophic.

Correct, 10% would be enough to kill millions.

But the establishment PTB consider all this as a kooky CT, right TC?.

tpaine  posted on  2017-11-05   20:46:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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