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Title: Princeton Christian Fellowship ditches the label 'evangelical'
Source: Daily Princeton
URL Source: http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/ar ... -ditches-the-label-evangelical
Published: Oct 11, 2017
Author: Rebecca Ngu
Post Date: 2017-10-11 10:19:01 by redleghunter
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Princeton Christian Fellowship ditches the label 'evangelical'

'Evangelical' has officially become a bad word. After years of deliberation, the Christian student group formerly known as the Princeton Evangelical Fellowship dropped the name it had held since it began in 1937, changing its name to Princeton Christian Fellowship earlier this school year.

The organization's trustees and directors voted to formally change the name in May 2017 and the decision was announced this August. William “Bill” Boyce ’79, executive secretary and associate chaplain of PCF, said that the term 'evangelical' has become an “unnecessary hindrance” to their work. 

“There’s a growing recognition that the term evangelical is increasingly either confusing, or unknown, or misunderstood to students,” he said.

The word 'evangelical' has a long history in the United States that typically implies a core set of doctrinal beliefs. Such tenets include belief in the authority and inspiration of the Bible, centrality of the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, and the free offer of salvation through faith, according to Boyce.

“I’m old enough to think [evangelical] is a good word, but it’s reached a point where there’s so much baggage attached around it so that it’s no longer a helpful word to identify ourselves,” said Boyce.

Jay Sourbeer ’18, president of PCF, echoed Boyce, adding that the term 'evangelical' is “thrown around too much.” Some people don’t know what 'evangelical' means, or others may hold the aforementioned beliefs, but not identify as evangelical. Others associate it negatively with certain political positions. The definition of evangelicalism has morphed and taken on “too much cultural baggage,” Boyce said, including the assumption of a political agenda.

“There might be certain assumptions that all evangelicals are Republicans, for example,” Boyce said. “We’re interested in being people who are defined by our faith and by our faith commitments and not by any sort of political agenda.” While Boyce firmly clarified that the discussion to remove evangelical from their group’s name predated Trump’s election, the politicization of the term 'evangelical' reached a fever pitch with Trump’s election. A quick Google search reveals, fairly or unfairly, how strongly the word evangelical has become associated with Trump supporters. The term has taken on a deeply uncomfortable and misleading connotation for the University's own evangelical Christians.


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#1. To: redleghunter (#0)

Is there a Princeton Catholic Fellowship also?

I wonder if the Catholics are debating removing the word "Catholic" from their name?

Doubt it.

You are what you are, and you wear it on your sleeve.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-10-11   10:44:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: redleghunter (#0)

“I’m old enough to think [evangelical] is a good word, but it’s reached a point where there’s so much baggage attached around it [including the assumption of a political agenda] so that it’s no longer a helpful word to identify ourselves,” said Boyce.

The word or group "Evangelical" has been slandered, libeled, and ridiculed by a lying, hateful media, Hollywood, and its anti-Christian, anti-God militant atheist comrades.

To Brother Boyce: "Evangelist" happens to be the word that defines the very sharing the Gospel. You consider THAT "baggage"? Don't like it, get out of the way.

So what exactly will cowards like Boyce do when the culture and media want to make the name, "Jesus Christ" a "hate-word"? Market "Jesus Christ" as..."You-Know-Who" who did "You-Know-What"?

Wow. Wheat. chaff. Last Days.

Liberator  posted on  2017-10-11   11:04:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Vicomte13, redleghunter (#1)

Is there a Princeton Catholic Fellowship also?

I wonder if the Catholics are debating removing the word "Catholic" from their name?

Doubt it.

You are what you are, and you wear it on your sleeve.

Couple of good questions.

Exactly: "You are what you are, and you wear it on your sleeve."

In Muzzie countries, EVERY DAY REAL courage and standing with the Lord is on display as Christians are getting their heads chopped off, tortured for refusing to back down and deny the Gospel of Jesus Christ. This coward's attempt at "re-branding" reeks.

Liberator  posted on  2017-10-11   11:09:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: redleghunter (#0)

Well, Princeton has always been a hotbed of Presbyterian sentiment. So no surprise here. I'm more surprised they ever adopted the name 'evangelical' to begin with.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-11   11:16:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: redleghunter, Vicomte13 (#0) (Edited)

“There might be certain assumptions that all evangelicals are Republicans, for example,” Boyce said.

“We’re interested in being people who are defined by our faith and by our faith commitments and not by any sort of political agenda.”

...The politicization of the term 'evangelical' reached a fever pitch with Trump’s election. A quick Google search reveals, fairly or unfairly, how strongly the word evangelical has become associated with Trump supporters. The term has taken on a deeply uncomfortable and misleading connotation for the University's own evangelical Christians.

The author -- Rebecca Ngu -- appears to be a progressive Democrat getting her digs in. Must be nice to be an immigrant from a Third World commie craphole, prospering, but still running down the very America established and built largely by a very observant Protestant America.

She suggests the reader conduct "a quick Google search" that "reveals...how strongly the word evangelical has become associated with Trump supporters."

ERGO, according to Miss Ngu, the presumptive conclusion of a "deeply uncomfortable and misleading connotation for the University's own evangelical Christians."

Played both sides of the issue. Cute. Exactly HOW is it "deeply uncomfortable" for Princeton's Evangelicals to be associated with President Trump? Conversely, shall we presume it "comfortable" to be associated with voting for a divisive Marxist, Muslim racist, 0bama? Progs are utterly delusional pretentious liars and hypocrites.

Liberator  posted on  2017-10-11   12:15:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Liberator (#5)

Exactly HOW is it "deeply uncomfortable" for Princeton's Evangelicals to be associated with President Trump?

Good points. Does anyone imagine that more than 3-4 Princeton students even voted for Trump?

I don't.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-11   12:21:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Tooconservative (#6)

Does anyone imagine that more than 3-4 Princeton students even voted for Trump?

I don't.

I can hardly believe it either.

This so-called"deep" discomfort; The authoress still neglected to explain why that would or should be the case.

Liberator  posted on  2017-10-11   13:02:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Tooconservative (#4)

I'm more surprised they ever adopted the name 'evangelical' to begin with.

The originators of Princeton and its Presbyterian roots weren't apparently concerned over the truth, over wording, or the corruption of the language and culture.

Liberator  posted on  2017-10-11   13:05:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Vicomte13 (#1)

Is there a Princeton Catholic Fellowship also? I wonder if the Catholics are debating removing the word "Catholic" from their name? Doubt it. You are what you are, and you wear it on your sleeve.

Yes there is and a very prominent one!

Princeton University, Aquinas Institute

The secular dullards probably don't know what St. Thomas Aquinas thought of their sin. :)

redleghunter  posted on  2017-10-11   13:25:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Liberator (#2)

The word or group "Evangelical" has been slandered, libeled, and ridiculed by a lying, hateful media, Hollywood, and its anti-Christian, anti-God militant atheist comrades. To Brother Boyce: "Evangelist" happens to be the word that defines the very sharing the Gospel. You consider THAT "baggage"? Don't like it, get out of the way. So what exactly will cowards like Boyce do when the culture and media want to make the name, "Jesus Christ" a "hate-word"? Market "Jesus Christ" as..."You-Know-Who" who did "You-Know-What"? Wow. Wheat. chaff. Last Days.

Indeed. As I said in the poster comments, Mr. Boyce has no one else to blame but himself. He should not allow secular atheists and SJWs define his organization.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-10-11   13:27:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: TooConservative, Liberator, Vicomte13 (#4)

Well, Princeton has always been a hotbed of Presbyterian sentiment. So no surprise here. I'm more surprised they ever adopted the name 'evangelical' to begin with.

Are there any real Presbyterians left there of note? Last I checked their theology department was overrun by secular atheists and eugenics adherents.

Princeton Theology refers to a conservative Christian reformed theology that flourished at Princeton Theological Seminary from 1812 until 1929. It was rooted in the philosophy of Common Sense Realism, as interpreted by Charles Hodge (1797-1878). In 1929 Princeton Theological Seminary completely modernized itself (becoming a center of Liberal Christianity), forcing scholars serious about Princeton Theology—especially John Gresham Machen to form the Westminster Theological Seminary.

Princeton Theology had a major role in shaping modern Fundamentalism. The Princeton theology was a unique system constructed by Alexander and Hodge. It emphasized a pre-Kantian rationalistic methodology and Biblical inerrancy. Dispensationalism and Princeton theology, two movements with certain similarities and a common foe in Modernism. were drawn together in informal cooperation in a series of International Prophetic Conferences beginning in 1878. Premillennialism and Biblical inspiration provided the themes for the alliance. The Fundamentals, a series of 12 pamphlets published from 1910 to 1915, was supported by Lyman Stewart, a Presbyterian layman and a follower of dispensationalism. Fundamentalism at the turn of the century was a religious movement of great vitality with definable antecedents in theological innovations of the 19th century and centered in the urban North. In the religious conflict of the 1920s Fundamentalists split often along dispensational and Princeton lines.

Seems since 1929 they have been a liberal institute for liberal theology. They are of the PCUSA variant of Presbyterian.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-10-11   13:36:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Liberator (#5)

The author -- Rebecca Ngu -- appears to be a progressive Democrat getting her digs in. Must be nice to be an immigrant from a Third World commie craphole, prospering, but still running down the very America established and built largely by a very observant Protestant America. She suggests the reader conduct "a quick Google search" that "reveals...how strongly the word evangelical has become associated with Trump supporters." ERGO, according to Miss Ngu, the presumptive conclusion of a "deeply uncomfortable and misleading connotation for the University's own evangelical Christians." Played both sides of the issue. Cute. Exactly HOW is it "deeply uncomfortable" for Princeton's Evangelicals to be associated with President Trump? Conversely, shall we presume it "comfortable" to be associated with voting for a divisive Marxist, Muslim racist, 0bama? Progs are utterly delusional pretentious liars and hypocrites.

Saw that undertow did ya? :)

redleghunter  posted on  2017-10-11   13:39:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: redleghunter (#11)

John Gresham Machen

The last of the real Presbyterians. The Orthodox Presbyterians are a small conservative denomination that still follow his general theology. Machen was a Presbyterian powerhouse in his day.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-11   14:00:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: redleghunter (#10)

Indeed. As I said in the poster comments, Mr. Boyce has no one else to blame but himself. He should not allow secular atheists and SJWs define his organization.

Amen!

Here he is knowingly fighting spiritual battle...and SURRENDERS PRONTO.

It saddens so that he doesn't want to stand on the truth and the word AS Middle Eastern and African Christians are TORTURED...and will NOT give up the Name of Jesus Christ or Gospel under those circumstances.

Liberator  posted on  2017-10-11   14:34:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: redleghunter (#12) (Edited)

Saw that undertow did ya? :)

Progs commentators and editorials are now resorting to the ol' "Betcha-you-aren't-noticing-I'm-yanking-you-underwater-with-the-octopus-leg-trick" /Maxwell Smart

Constant subterfuge isn't so subtle, is it?

Liberator  posted on  2017-10-11   14:43:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Liberator (#14)

It saddens so that he doesn't want to stand on the truth and the word AS Middle Eastern and African Christians are TORTURED...and will NOT give up the Name of Jesus Christ or Gospel under those circumstances.

Indeed an indictment of the bloated and comforted Western church.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-10-11   16:35:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: redleghunter (#16)

Indeed an indictment of the bloated and comforted Western church.

Forces one to reassess where he or she stands.

Liberator  posted on  2017-10-11   17:47:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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