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Title: Forensic acoustic proof of SECOND shooter in the Las Vegas massacre
Source: [None]
URL Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxmEFeKy8aI
Published: Oct 11, 2017
Author: Mike Adams TheHealthRanger
Post Date: 2017-10-11 00:40:47 by A K A Stone
Keywords: None
Views: 54726
Comments: 148

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#4. To: A K A Stone, Nolu Chan (#0)

I've listened to the first 20 mins of it, which seems to be a complete presentation of his case. I like that he's knowledgeable, or at least seems to be, in this field.

But I think there's a flaw in his analysis, and that is that all the math is based on the premise that the second shooter was firing .223 rounds just as Paddock was. Adams even admits early in the video that the distance & shot report tables is different for different types of rounds.

But it's already known that Paddock has 1-2 dozen different firearms in the room. Some were .223, but I think others were of differing calibers. So perhaps Paddock fired .223 rounds some of the time, but also switched to different rifles of higher or lower caliber which would have differing acoustic lag times at the same distance. Has Adams accounted for that possibility?

There is also the speculative nature of matching bullet impact sounds with shot report acoustics. I.e you might hear on a recording 6 shot reports but only 5 bullet impacts, in which case determining which bullet impact sounds match which reports could be speculative, and if you get that wrong then you'll be wrong about the distance of the shooter.

Paddock switching rifles might also account for the differing shot acoustic recordings from the taxi at the base of tho hotel.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-10-11   1:26:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Pinguinite, Aka Stone, Nolu Chan, TooConservative (#4) (Edited)

There is also the speculative nature of matching bullet impact sounds with shot report acoustics

And he doesn't present a single sonogram - which is what the actual experts use to distinguish rifle report from impact sounds.

http:// www.btgresearch.org/AcousticReconstruction02042012.pdf

And yep - we don't know yet which weapons / ammunition were fired in association with the audio events.

Having that knowledge is essential to correctly computing the ballistic data - which include the changes in velocity he's using as "proof".

He's presented no "proof".

VxH  posted on  2017-10-11   9:48:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: VxH (#21) (Edited)

And yep - we don't know yet which weapons / ammunition were fired in association with the audio events.

I think the guesswork that the initial shots were the incendiary rounds fired at the fuel tanks is pretty good.

Then he changed to his main shooting window and used the bump-fire stock guns to open up on the crowd.

He wanted a big fire, possibly to panic (or just distract) the crowd or to draw off first responders. When that didn't work, he moved quickly into massacre mode.

He's presented no "proof".

I'm trying to decide if Stone has upgraded by switching from the Niburu/Planet X kooks to this Natural News kook. I think he has. This is a somewhat higher grade of kookery IMO.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-11   9:52:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Tooconservative (#22)

This is a somewhat higher grade of kookery IMO.

He presents the process convincingly - WITHOUT any actual data.

Where's the audio/data/sonograms?

300k+ clicks on his youboob channel though. Shyster.

VxH  posted on  2017-10-11   10:07:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: VxH (#23)

300k+ clicks on his youboob channel though. Shyster.

Google already delisted his websites entirely.

It's only a matter of time before his kooking will get him demonetized on YouBoob also.

Google likes selling ads but there is a limit to the kinds of kooking they will tolerate, especially from a certifiable kook like Adams.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-11   10:14:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Tooconservative, VxH (#26)

Google already delisted his websites entirely.

Have you actually tried to google it?

Funny, entering healthranger.com into google yields this link. It it supposed to yield no result?

https://www.google.com/search?q=healthranger.com&oq=healthranger.com&gs_l=psy-ab.12..0.390751.399119.0.402145.19.18.1.0.0.0.119.1560.14j3.18.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.18.1569.0..0i131k1j0i67k1j0i10k1j0i10i30k1.80.HuDbfmMh_yo

nolu chan  posted on  2017-10-12   15:47:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: nolu chan (#62)

You obviously don't understand what delisting is.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-12   16:19:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#65. To: Tooconservative (#63)

You obviously don't understand what delisting is.

It means it won't show up in a google search. It is removed from the index. If it is not in the index, it cannot be found in the index. If it is still there, it is not delisted.

http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/D/delisting.html

nolu chan  posted on  2017-10-12 19:17:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Tooconservative, noluchan (#63)

You obviously don't understand what delisting is.

If KlingonBurger.com got delisted then they wouldn't show up in a search for "healthy burgers in gamma quadrant 4"

That kinda how it works?

VxH  posted on  2017-10-12 20:22:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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