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Foreign Invaders crisis cost $150B in 2023, forcing some areas to cut police and fire services: report Israel kills head of Hezbollah Intelligence. Status: Not Logged In; Sign In Watching The Cops See other Watching The Cops Articles Title: Utah police officer who handcuffed nurse is fired, supervising officer is demoted Source: HotAir URL Source: https://hotair.com/archives/2017/10 ... fired-another-officer-demoted/ Published: Oct 10, 2017 Author: John Sexton Post Date: 2017-10-10 21:33:17 by Tooconservative Keywords: None Views: 5634 Comments: 43 Detective Jeff Payne, the man who arrested nurse Alex Wubbels at a Salt Lake City hospital after she refused to perform a drug test on an unconscious patient, has been fired. From the Associated Press: Salt Lake City Police Chief Mike Brown made the decision after an internal investigation found evidence Detective Jeff Payne violated department policies when he arrested nurse Alex Wubbels and dragged her out of the hospital as she screamed on July 26, said Sgt. Brandon Shearer, a spokesman for the department. Attorney Greg Skordas has said Payne served the department well for nearly three decades and questioned whether his behavior warranted termination. He couldn’t immediately be reached for comment Tuesday. Payne’s supervisor, Lt. James Tracy, was also demoted to officer. His lawyer, Ed Brass, couldn’t immediately be reached for comment… “Your lack of judgment and leadership in this matter is unacceptable, and as a result, I no longer believe that you can retain a leadership position in the department,” Brown said. I wrote about this story at the beginning of September and called it a “pretty clear abuse of authority.” It was immediately clear that Det. Payne had no legal justification for dragging Wubbels out of the hospital and handcuffing her. She had clearly explained the hospital policy after talking to a hospital attorney by phone and the person whose blood police wanted to test was unconscious and unable to consent. When supervisor Lt. Tracy showed up moments later, he defended Det. Payne and condescendingly claimed the problem was that Wubbels didn’t know the law. “If we’re doing wrong, there are civil remedies,” Tracy said. But the findings of two separate investigations concluded that Payne and Tracy were in the wrong, each of them violating department policy in five separate ways. As Ed noted, the Mayor of Salt Lake City claimed this would have been the result whether or not Wubbels’ attorney had released the body cam video of her arrest. I don’t buy that at all. Frankly, without the video I believe Payne and Tracy would have escaped any serious consequences and maybe even have lied about what happened. This incident is a good example of why all police officers should have body cameras. It protects them and it protects people from them when they abuse their authority. Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 29. #1. To: Tooconservative (#0) Excellent. So, Payne lost his job AND his ambulance job, and the arrogant police lieutenant is a lieutenant no more. Now comes the lawsuit, against both of them, it is to be hoped. Vicomte13  posted on  2017-10-10   21:48:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: Vicomte13 (#1) (Edited) and the arrogant police lieutenant is a lieutenant no more Not a supervisor. Just an officer. You have to wonder if he's back in a squad car on patrol. I'd think they would both just retire because it doesn't seem they have much to gain hanging around. The bigger issue will be a civil lawsuit but I do expect that the nurse will get a large payout to shut up and go away. She has a young child at home and she could take it and retire to raise the toddler. It would have to be tempting. And she could still sue the two cops even after she dropped the SLCPD as a defendant. Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-10   22:05:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #6. To: Tooconservative (#2) I like even better the option where she does not accept a settlement that silences her, but decides to get MORE money and keep her full rights to speak about it for the rest of life, by suing, and pressing charges (she was falsely arrested). The police department already has fired and demoted these guys. She wins the lawsuit easily. It isn't as though the defense has a pot to piss in, and the jury pool in Salt Lake will not be sympathetic to the police at all. She should not sell herself short and settle. She should conquer. Prosecutors show no mercy when they have the power. Here, she has the power, and she should use it to its fullest extent, use it to extract millions MORE dollars, and be able to publicly deride the criminal cops eavefor the rest of her life. She should not sheathe her sword. Her adversaries are on their knees. She should run them through and leave their broken lives, and the massive economic hit to the police budget, as bloody vengeance. A settlement is not a victory. You settle when the outcome is uncertain. Here, she cannot lose. She should not settle. She should prosecute, sue, and destroy, inflict the maximum damage. The cops showed her no mercy. They lost. She should show them none in reply. Vicomte13  posted on  2017-10-11   7:44:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #17. To: Vicomte13 (#6) I don't think she's going to sue. She's too good natured for that, being a nurse who takes care of people, and probably understands that the people who would pay her would be the taxpayers, not the people who harmed her. She wanted a correction to be made, and it's been made. She's been fully vindicated in the public eye. Police will no longer have access to hospital staff as they did before, so she's a local hero among medical staff throughout here city & state. The cop that arrested her lost not one job but 2 jobs, and he's probably toxic at this point and would not be hired again anywhere else in the country. If she were to sue, she'd likely lose some of the adoration she has pocketed for life. I may be wrong, but I would bet she will not sue. Pinguinite  posted on  2017-10-11   11:55:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #29. To: Pinguinite (#17) I don't think she's going to sue. She's too good natured for that, being a nurse who takes care of people, and probably understands that the people who would pay her would be the taxpayers, not the people who harmed her. She wanted a correction to be made, and it's been made. She's been fully vindicated in the public eye. Police will no longer have access to hospital staff as they did before, so she's a local hero among medical staff throughout here city & state. The cop that arrested her lost not one job but 2 jobs, and he's probably toxic at this point and would not be hired again anywhere else in the country. If she were to sue, she'd likely lose some of the adoration she has pocketed for life. I may be wrong, but I would bet she will not sue. You're probably right. Sigh. I was hoping for a good old fashioned LYNCHING! Vicomte13  posted on  2017-10-11   13:48:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 29. #30. To: Vicomte13 (#29) You're probably right. Sigh. I was hoping for a good old fashioned LYNCHING! Well, maybe they'll make a movie about it. That would be better than suing, and maybe she could make money off of the movie rights. Pinguinite  posted on  2017-10-11 14:15:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #31. To: Vicomte13 (#29) I was hoping for a good old fashioned LYNCHING! It's coming. Now that he was fired, she has more ammunition. misterwhite  posted on  2017-10-11 15:16:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   End Trace Mode for Comment # 29. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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