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Status: Not Logged In; Sign In United States News See other United States News Articles Title: Jerry Jones: Cowboys will bench any player who 'disrespects' flag Source: ESPN URL Source: http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/ ... s-player-disrespects-flag-play Published: Oct 9, 2017 Author: Todd Archer Post Date: 2017-10-09 01:47:42 by nolu chan Keywords: None Views: 4855 Comments: 52 Jerry Jones: Cowboys will bench any player who 'disrespects' flag Todd Archer ESPN Staff Writer October 9, 2017, 11:52 PM CT ARLINGTON, Texas -- Dallas Cowboys owner and general manager Jerry Jones said emphatically that his players will stand for the national anthem and not disrespect the flag, and if they do, the player or players will not play. "If there's anything that is disrespectful to the flag, then we will not play," Jones said after the Cowboys' 35-31 loss to the Green Bay Packers. "Understand? We will not ... if we are disrespecting the flag, then we will not play. Period." The topic was raised after Vice President Mike Pence left Sunday's game between the Indianapolis Colts and San Francisco 49ers after more than 20 Niners knelt during the national anthem with their hands over their hearts, as was the case the previous week. Pence tweeted a statement in which he said he would not dignify any event that disrespects soldiers, the flag or the anthem. [snip] Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 33. #1. To: All (#0) http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/fl-sp-dolphins-ross-anthem-20171008-story.html Dolphins owner Steve Ross now wants players to stand for anthem, coach Adam Gase makes it a rule Chris Perkins Sun Sentinel October 8, 2017 8:25 p.m., Miama Gardens Miami Dolphins owner Steve Ross, who had three players — wide receiver Kenny Stills, safety Michael Thomas and tight end Julius Thomas — kneel during the national anthem prior to last week’s game said Sunday he wished they would stand for the anthem. The trio ended up standing in the tunnel during the anthem and running onto the field afterward. Coach Adam Gase implemented a policy Sunday requiring players to stand for the national anthem. Those who don’t wish to stand must stay in the locker room or in the tunnel. Ross, who spoke about 90 minutes before the Dolphins’ 16-10 victory over Tennessee and the national anthem, said President Donald Trump has changed the focus of anthem conversation from social injustice issues to patriotism, so it’s better now for the players to stand. “He’s changed that whole paradigm of what protest is,” Ross during his CommUnity Tailgate gathering at Hard Rock Stadium before Sunday’s home opener against Tennessee. “And I think it’s incumbent upon the players today, because of how the public is looking at it, to really stand and really salute the flag.” [...] nolu chan  posted on  2017-10-09   2:19:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: nolu chan (#1) (Edited) Did you see the Dolphins line coach in this new video where he's doing lines of cocaine? He says, "I miss you. I miss you a lot. What do you think, crazy? No, babe. It's gonna be awhile before we can do this again, 'cuz I know you're gonna keep that baby. But I think about you when I do it. I think about how much I miss you. How high we get together, how much fun it was. So much fun." So he knocked up some crack whore and he wants her to keep the baby? And then later after the baby is born, they can do coke together again? Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-09   5:48:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #8. To: All, nolu chan, Pinguinite (#5) DailyWire: Miami Dolphins Coach Resigns After Drug-Snorting Video Goes Viral Prior to his year with the Dolphins, Foerster was employed by the San Francisco 49ers. ESPN reports that Foerster "was one of the highest-paid assistant coaches in the NFL, at a salary valued between $2.5 million and $3 million a year." Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-09   15:42:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #9. To: Tooconservative (#8) Man..... 2017. The year the NFL wish never existed. hehe. They'd have been better off if they decided to just cancel the whole damn season. Pinguinite  posted on  2017-10-09   16:26:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #10. To: Pinguinite (#9) It gets even better. ESPN's Crazy Bitch went insane again today. DailyWire: ESPN Suspends Host Jemele Hill Over Tweets Calling For A Boycott Of NFL Sponsors Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-09   17:47:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #15. To: Tooconservative, Pinguinite (#10) It gets even better. ESPN's Crazy Bitch went insane again today. Crazy bitch got suspended this time. Who did she think pays for the commercials on ESPN? nolu chan  posted on  2017-10-09   20:27:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #16. To: nolu chan (#15) We've got protests from both whites and blacks over this. I'm not sure what the middle ground is. Maybe they could coax Hispanics to watch this instead of soccer by playing the Mexican national anthem before each game. no gnu taxes  posted on  2017-10-09   20:42:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #24. To: no gnu taxes (#16) I'm not sure what the middle ground is. There is no middle ground between standing and not standing. These are employees in the workplace acting in a manner detrimental to the employer and outside the bounds of cmmon decency set forth in 4 U.S.C. and 36 U.S.C. http://deadline.com/2017/10/vikings-win-monday-night-football-ratings-down-season-low-star-wars-bears-nfl-espn-1202185363/ Vikings Win But ‘Monday Night Football’ Ratings Hits Season Low by Dominic Patten Deadline October 10, 2017 7:23am [excerpt] Snaring a 7.0 in metered market results, last night’s MNF was down double digits from last week’s Kansas Chiefs’ 29-20 victory over the Washington Redskins. Down 17% in the ratings, that’s actually a regular game season low for the ESPN broadcast game and matches the MM result of the second game of the doubleheader MNF opener on September 11. That comes a day after Sunday Night Football also hit a season low with its ratings down too. - - - - - - - - - - https://www.wsj.com/articles/nfl-owners-to-discuss-policy-on-standing-for-anthem-1507653315 NFL Owners to Discuss Policy on Standing for Anthem A league spokesman said owners will consider player input on the issue, but suggested that a rule change would not require player approval By Matthew Futterman Wall Street Journal Oct. 10, 2017 12:35 p.m. ET The National Football League’s owners will discuss at meetings next week whether to unilaterally change the league policy to require players to stand during the national anthem. [snip] If the players do not like it, they can go play in the CFL where they will be required to stand for O Canada. - - - - - - - - - - http://news.radio.com/2017/10/10/common-jerry-jones-slave-owner-mentality/ Common Says Jerry Jones Has a ‘Slave Owner Mentality’ Annie Reuter October 10, 2017 12:17 PM Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones has gone on record saying that players who kneel in protest during the national anthem will not play. “If we are disrespecting the flag, then we won’t play. Period,” he said (via CBS Sports). TMZ Sports’s cameras caught up with Common, who likens Jones’ ruling to a slave owner’s mentality. “It’s an owner mentality,” Common tells TMZ Sports. “Like a slave owner mentality, to be honest. Like, ‘You gonna do what I say on this.'” Common adds that no football player is disrespecting his job. Instead, he is simply saying this is where I want to place my body during the anthem. [snip] The employer will be telling the employee at work to act with common decency and to stop behaving in a manner detrimental to the employer. And slaves did not get paid hundreds of millions of dollars to hold sit down strikes on the job. - - - - - - - - - - nolu chan  posted on  2017-10-10   13:23:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #25. To: nolu chan (#24) You have to know this stuff gets litigated all the time. It all comes down to what some judge thinks it should be. no gnu taxes  posted on  2017-10-10   13:38:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #26. To: no gnu taxes (#25) You have to know this stuff gets litigated all the time. It all comes down to what some judge thinks it should be. And you have to know that there is no constitutional right for employees to hold political demonstrations in the workplace, on duty. As a court case, this would not survive a pre-trial motion. This is a players' public relations case, not a legal case. They are losing there as well. No player has a right to take the field. If the Patriots tell Tom Brady next week that he is sitting and Jimmy G is starting, that is how it will be. Notably, Colin kaepernick has not attempted to sue anybody. nolu chan  posted on  2017-10-10   15:07:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #28. To: nolu chan (#26) And you have to know that there is no constitutional right for employees to hold political demonstrations in the workplace, on duty. Except that the employer has been allowing it, and in some cases, even encouraging it. no gnu taxes  posted on  2017-10-11   9:12:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #29. To: no gnu taxes (#28) Except that the employer has been allowing it, and in some cases, even encouraging it. That creates no right for the players if the league says STOP and enforces a code of conduct. They would not be telling them to bow to Zod, but to act in a manner that does not result in a 6 rating for Monday Night Football. The players have no right to insult the customers and drive them away. And, of course, there is the NFLPA. https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/521169809 Nonprofit Explorer Research Tax-Exempt Organizations NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE PLAYERS ASSOCIATION 1133 20TH ST NW STE 600, WASHINGTON, DC 20036-3450 Tax-exempt since May 1971 EIN: 52-1169809 Classification (NTEE) Labor Unions, Organizations (Employment, Job-Related) Nonprofit Tax Code Designation: 501(c)(5) Defined as: Labor, agricultural and horticultural organizations that are educational or instructive, including unions, created for the purpose of improving conditions of work, and products of efficiency. [...] NFlPA IRS FORM 990 2014, DATED 2016-01-14 The NFLPA is incorporated as a 501(c)(5), with tax exempt status. In Schedule O (pdf page 30) there is the required statement of purpose of the tax exempt association. Return Reference FORM 990, PART I, LINE 1, PART II, LINE 1 THE PURPOSES OF THE NFLPA ARE TO PROMOTE AND ADVANCE ALL NFL PLAYERS AND THE SPORT OF PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL, AND TO IMPROVE THE ECONOMIC AND OTHER WORKING CONDITIONS OF PLAYERS AS THE UNION AND EXCLUSIVE REPRESENTATIVES OF PLAYERS IN THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE. The IRS may choose to review their tax exempt status if the NFLPA notoriously acts outside its stated purpose, and chooses to act as a front for social justice movement having nothing to do with professional football, or the working conditions of professional football players, and acts to the detriment of the economic conditions of professional football and the players thereof. The NFLPA pays no taxes and wants no gnu taxes. nolu chan  posted on  2017-10-12   13:20:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #31. To: nolu chan, no gnu taxes, redleghunter (#29) [There is] no right for the players if the league says STOP and enforces a code of conduct. Up till now, the Employer has been giving consent to ignore and dismiss rules and regs. If they suddenly give notice and remove consent, the original codes of conduct must be respected. OR ELSE. The Union has no recourse. UNLESS they prefer to strike. And lose millions. Of course they can stand, play lackadaisically, and still get paid. And play to half empty stadiums and totally commit career suicide as the NFL dies. The NFLPA is incorporated as a 501(c)(5), with tax exempt status. Which is an epic joke. NFL operations are definitively capitalist, aren't they? The IRS may choose to review their tax exempt status if the NFLPA notoriously acts outside its stated purpose, and chooses to act as a front for social justice movement having nothing to do with professional football, or the working conditions of professional football players, and acts to the detriment of the economic conditions of professional football and the players thereof. I'm sure 99% of the FORMER fans had NO idea that the NFL was tax exempt. This knowledge will only also serve to further outrage over its SJW/BLM crusade UNLESS... the $44 million dollar lead crusader, Roger Goodell and the owners would MUCH rather be taxed while changing gears into to a more economically socialist, anarchist structure of "justice." The President will accommodate them. But now that the can o' worms has been opened, Goodell, the owners, its BLM members and coerced white players have already stepped in it. The fans KNOW they are hated by its players. That Jerry Jones Knee-Photo will be seared into the minds of all fans. Liberator  posted on  2017-10-12   13:39:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #33. To: Liberator (#31) I still remember the NFL in the 70s. Players played because they liked the game. The minimum salary was about twice the minimum wage. Most players only made around $40,000 a year. A few did make really good money. Most also worked other jobs in the offseason. Almost no teams made money. For owners, it was just a tax write and a hobby. Also, the conditions for players were far more brutal than today. Perfectly legal hits could kill a player. Still players wanted to play. no gnu taxes  posted on  2017-10-12   13:58:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 33. #35. To: no gnu taxes (#33) (Edited) I still remember the NFL in the 70s. Players played because they liked the game. The minimum salary was about twice the minimum wage. Most players only made around $40,000 a year. A few did make really good money. Most also worked other jobs in the offseason. Yup. They played for the love and passion for the game. As spectators, the fans sensed it and loved the NFL back then. They were severely underpaid. Shame many became debilitated as a result. Almost no teams made money. For owners, it was just a tax write and a hobby. Also, the conditions for players were far more brutal than today. Perfectly legal hits could kill a player. Still players wanted to play. Good observations. Probably nearly the same can be said of the other "major sports," like MLB back then; Once upon a time they were all "just a game." Liberator  posted on  2017-10-12 14:15:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #39. To: no gnu taxes, Liberator (#33) I still remember the NFL in the 70s. I remember it from the 50's before there was an AFL or a Super Bowl. nolu chan  posted on  2017-10-12 18:41:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   End Trace Mode for Comment # 33. 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