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Title: Video claims shooter dressed as police
Source: [None]
URL Source: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=LAS+VEGAS ... a=videos&iax=1&iai=qMxn7hpXmk4
Published: Oct 8, 2017
Author: Planet X Investigations
Post Date: 2017-10-08 15:41:01 by A K A Stone
Keywords: None
Views: 15334
Comments: 186

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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

>>PLANET X INVESTIGATIONS

SMH.  LOL.

VxH  posted on  2017-10-08   15:43:32 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: VxH (#1)

Why the silly meaningless image?

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-10-08   15:44:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: A K A Stone (#2) (Edited)

Why the silly meaningless image?

"Planet X / Nibburu"

https://www.google.com/search? source=hp&q=Planet+X+%2F+Nibburu

Not a credible source.

VxH  posted on  2017-10-08   15:54:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: VxH (#10)

Not a credible source

Perhaps you are correct. I've never heard of them.

There is a video they have and it has some interesting shots.

Care to comment or you just going to call me conspiracy theorist?

No matter either way.

I think one person did so far.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-10-08   15:56:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: A K A Stone (#11) (Edited)

call me conspiracy theorist?

Nah. It's easy for someone to think they hear something (and be misled) when they don't understand the acoustics.

Especially when the Niburu cultists / grifters start injecting their click- bait input.

VxH  posted on  2017-10-08   16:03:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: VxH, tooconservative (#17)

Nah. It's easy for someone to think they hear something (and be misled) when they don't understand the acoustics.

"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which can not fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-that principle is contempt prior to investigation." --HERBERT SPENCER

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-10-08   16:09:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: A K A Stone (#19) (Edited)

Like I said, I've seen the video these Niburuspiracists recycled - when it was first published.

I understood the audio then, and it hasn't changed.

The guy wants you to believe the "shooter" made sounds that

A: were not local gunfire.
B: are associated with the pattern of reports that is coming from the hotel.

Eventually somebody will compile a timeline with links to every burst of gunfire. I believe the evidence will all point back to those two windows. Haven't seen any evidence to the contrary yet.

VxH  posted on  2017-10-08   16:18:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: VxH (#21)

Ok tell me about your audio.

Where were was the taxi driver specifically at the first five burst fired.

Show me where you checked the information. How did you find out where the taxi driver was?

Then also since you are so smart. Do your echo test from where this video was shot.

You are to lazy to dispute anything in this video. Even if you are right.

So you are probably to busy or lazy to do what I asked. I seriously doubt you did your own research.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-10-08   16:58:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: A K A Stone (#22)

Another copy of the same video - claiming to be

[Original footage of las vegas shooting 50 filled 200 injured]

https://www.youtube.com/embed/kcjYefWRsKU? version=1&showinfo=0

Doubful that it's "original" - but anyhow observe the sustained burst in question, between:

https://youtu.be/kcjYefWRsKU?t=8 and
https://youtu.be/kcjYefWRsKU?t=22

There isn't any discernible echo.   Probably because this is the aiming point and not the origination point.

Here's what I see between the last bullet sound and the last report:

 
T1T2Elapsed TimeTotal Distance
17.6918.761.071208.80ft
 

Where T1 is the last bullet sound and T2 is the last report sound.

1.07 seconds between T1 and T2 = 1208 ft. 

1208 ft from the Mandalay Bay, per Google earth, puts us right about where the video is being taken.

 

It's difficult to count the number of bullet events because they are in close synchronization with the report events - but I count somewhere between 80 - 95; making this probably one of the longer events I counted in the cab- driver videos - 94 rounds, which I suspect is from a 100 round drum magazine.

Do we see a belt fed weapon or a drum in the "PLANET X INVESTIGATIONS" video?  Nope. 

More evidence the Niburutards are FOS, as usual. 

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VxH  posted on  2017-10-08   19:38:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: VxH, A K A Stone, Tooconservative (#32)

There isn't any discernible echo.   Probably because this is the aiming point and not the origination point.

Here's what I see between the last bullet sound and the last report:

 
T1T2Elapsed TimeTotal Distance
17.6918.761.071208.80ft
 

Where T1 is the last bullet sound and T2 is the last report sound.

1.07 seconds between T1 and T2 = 1208 ft. 

1208 ft from the Mandalay Bay, per Google earth, puts us right about where the video is being taken.

What do you mean by the last bullet? It that the time of the sound as recorded on that video, or what is it?

Is T1 a gunshot and T2 an echo.

What do you mean by report, if not an echo?

And just how did you calculate such a remarkable result for distance?

Don't tell me. 1,125 feet per second (the speed of sound) x 1.07 = 1,203.75 and you rounded it off to 1,208 feet. Forget the rounding. Why does that measure the distance from the video taker to the shooter?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_sound

In dry air at 0 °C (32 °F), the speed of sound is 331.2 metres per second (1,087 ft/s; 1,192 km/h; 741 mph; 644 kn). At 20 °C (68 °F), the speed of sound is 343 metres per second (1,125 ft/s; 1,235 km/h; 767 mph; 667 kn), or a kilometre in 2.91 s or a mile in 4.69 s.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-10-08   20:52:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: nolu chan, A K A Stone, Tooconservative, Klingon Ambassador (#40) (Edited)

>>What do you mean by report, if not an echo?

As any Boy Scout with one of these...

...should know:

https://duckduckgo.com/? q=An+explosive+noise%3A+the+report+of+a+rifle

>>And just how did you calculate such a remarkable result for distance? { blah blah blah wikispew}

I used the same speed I used in my other analysis (appended below) - based upon an air temperature of 72 degrees

Then I calculated the difference in time between the last bullet sound (T1) and the corresponding last report sound (T2).

T2-T1 = time the  report traveled = 1.07

1.07 * FPS of 1130.8 = 1208.8

==========================


An analysis of two sequential burts of gunfire between: 
["Taxi Driver Video" the Zapruder Film of the Las Vegas shooting UNCUT / UNEDITED]
https://www.youtube.com/watch ?v=mBbOFwWquAw&feature=youtu.be&t=1m7s
and
https://www.youtube.com/watc h?v=mBbOFwWquAw&feature=youtu.be&t=1m24s
===============  
T1: Time from start of video (1minute N seconds) at the time of the last shot in the burst.
T2: Time from the start of the video (1minute N seconds) at the time of the echoed sound event corresponding to T1. 
TempF: the air temperature (72 degrees F) 
FPS:   1130 ft per second -- The speed of sound at 72 degrees F
Elapsed Time:  T2 minus T1, the number of seconds between the last shot, and the echo of the last shot in each burst. 
Total Distance:  Elapsed Time * FPS = the total distance traveled between T1 and T2.
Echo Distance  = The distance the echo traveled from the aiming point back to the point of origin.
===============

Conclusion:  Burst B is NOT two weapons being fired simultaneously.  It is one weapon being fired at a more distant target.  The longer distance, observable in the period between Burst B's T1 and T2, manifests a corresponding longer period of reverb.  It is the reverb that is being incorrectly interpreted as a second weapon (and second shooter) firing at the same time.

Research resources:
https://www.google.co m/search?biw=1544&bih=856&q=Forensic+Acoustics+gunfire
http://www.physic sclassroom.com/mmedia/waves/er.cfm
https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/usa/las- vegas/historic
http://www.csgnetwork.c om/soundspeedcalc.html

VxH  posted on  2017-10-08   21:29:32 ET  (3 images) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: All (#42) (Edited)

 
T1T2Elapsed TimeTotal Distance
17.68965518.7586211.0689661208.80

Here's a snapshot with increased decimal precision and less rounded confusion :-}

VxH  posted on  2017-10-08   21:51:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#46. To: All (#43) (Edited)

17.689655 18.758621 1.068966 1208.80

Hmmm.

Actually that's not quite the correct calculation required here.

I'm making an error by treating the T1 as the firing time.

Need to update that to incorporate the muzzle velocity....

VxH  posted on  2017-10-08 22:18:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: VxH (#43)

I used the same speed I used in my other analysis (appended below) - based upon an air temperature of 72 degrees

Then I calculated the difference in time between the last bullet sound (T1) and the corresponding last report sound (T2).

Your arithmetic is fine, your logic is a FAIL.

You failed to answer the question: "Why does that measure the distance from the video taker to the shooter?"

You have still not identified what sounds you refer to.

What is the first sound of a bullet? The initial sound wave as heard at the recording location?

What is the last sound of the bullet? An echo? Another bullet?

In this case, the video taker was 400 yards away from the shooter.

The sound wave originated at position a and traveled 400 yards to get to the videotaker at position b. That took ~1.07 seconds for the sound to travel.

If you measure the first sound of the bullet as when it traveled faster than sound, and then struck something or whizzed past making a sound, your ~1.07 second measurement is impossible as the elapsed time difference would be the time it took the sound wave to travel (~1.07s) minus the time it took the bullet to travel. Your calculation as the bullet traveling at aproximately the speed of light.

The bullet and the sound both travel the same path at the same time, at different velocities. As the sound takes ~1.07 seconds, the difference in their arrival times cannot be ~1.07s.

Two cars travel an 80 mile strip. One travels 80 mph and crosses the finish line in 1 hour. The other travels 40 miles an hour and crosses the finish line in 2 hours. If the slow car went half the speed of the faster car, and the time difference was 1 hour, the distance can be calculated as the velocity of the faster vehicle (80 mph) divided by the velocity of the slower vehicle (40 mph) time the time difference (1 hour).

Your calculation is good arithmetic but gibberish logic. ~1.07 seconds is simply the time for sound to travel from Mandalay Bay to the target recording location.

An echo of a sound originating at position a results from the sound wave traveling the distance originating point a to recording position b, proceeding an unidentified distance to the reflective surface c, and returning to position b. The sound must arrive/leave recording position b at ~1.07 seconds, travel to a reflective surface, and return. The elapsed time must exceed 1.07s.

In measuring the distance of a lightning bolt, you can use the sighting of the lightning bolt, the light traveling at the speed of light, as the originating time of the initiating event. You can count until the slower moving sound wave arrives, and calculate distance to the lightning. This is because the velocity of light is so great, its travel time over relatively short distances is negligible.

Unfortunately, even with a Boy Scout merit badge, an audio recording from 400 yards away does not identify distance of the originating event. Bullets do not travel at the speed of light, or anywhere near it.

The way you know the distance from the Mandalay Bay to the event location is by measuring it.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-10-09 18:52:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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