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Title: Video claims shooter dressed as police
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URL Source: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=LAS+VEGAS ... a=videos&iax=1&iai=qMxn7hpXmk4
Published: Oct 8, 2017
Author: Planet X Investigations
Post Date: 2017-10-08 15:41:01 by A K A Stone
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#18. To: A K A Stone (#15)

Nothing about sound.

Uhuh.

And understanding the the audio is critical to understanding what's being presented.

VxH  posted on  2017-10-08   16:05:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: VxH, tooconservative (#17)

Nah. It's easy for someone to think they hear something (and be misled) when they don't understand the acoustics.

"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which can not fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-that principle is contempt prior to investigation." --HERBERT SPENCER

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-10-08   16:09:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: A K A Stone (#19)

"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which can not fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-that principle is contempt prior to investigation listening to a pack of goddamned kooks." --Tooconservative

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-08   16:13:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: A K A Stone (#19) (Edited)

Like I said, I've seen the video these Niburuspiracists recycled - when it was first published.

I understood the audio then, and it hasn't changed.

The guy wants you to believe the "shooter" made sounds that

A: were not local gunfire.
B: are associated with the pattern of reports that is coming from the hotel.

Eventually somebody will compile a timeline with links to every burst of gunfire. I believe the evidence will all point back to those two windows. Haven't seen any evidence to the contrary yet.

VxH  posted on  2017-10-08   16:18:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: VxH (#21)

Ok tell me about your audio.

Where were was the taxi driver specifically at the first five burst fired.

Show me where you checked the information. How did you find out where the taxi driver was?

Then also since you are so smart. Do your echo test from where this video was shot.

You are to lazy to dispute anything in this video. Even if you are right.

So you are probably to busy or lazy to do what I asked. I seriously doubt you did your own research.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-10-08   16:58:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Tooconservative (#20)

There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which can not fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-that principle is contempt prior to investigation listening to a pack of goddamned kooks." --Tooconservative

plagiarized.

Also for someone who talks about everything posted. It is funny you can't debunk an image in a video. That is unlike you TC.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-10-08   16:59:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: A K A Stone (#22)

How did you find out where the taxi driver was?

I watched the Cab-driver video. Then I used google earth to view the 3d image of the hotel and surrounding area.

VxH  posted on  2017-10-08   17:36:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: A K A Stone (#22) (Edited)

You are to lazy to dispute anything in this video.

I've already disputed it.

You're too lazy to go do the research to learn and understand what you're hearing.

VxH  posted on  2017-10-08   17:49:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: VxH (#24) (Edited)

Then I used google earth to view the 3d image of the hotel and surrounding area.

Google Earth and Google Maps Street View were both helpful.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-08   17:53:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: VxH, tooconservative (#25)

I've already disputed it.

Then you should both email me your results privately. I want to see if they are the same.

Oh you can't.

Ok post what you found and describe it please.

Why can't you do that?

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-10-08   18:12:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: VxH, A K A Stone (#10)

[VxH #10] "Planet X / Nibburu"

https://www.google.com/search? source=hp&q=Planet+X+%2F+Nibburu

Not a credible source.

Says the person with the image from the credible source, pbase and Klingons.

https://a4.pbase.com/o10/92/33392/1/166356364.c4kuLP7o.Klingons.jpg

Why is pbase and Klingons more credible than Youtube?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNPrR9pP51E

Las Vegas Cover Up: Video Shows 3 Extra Missing Windows On West Side of Mandalay Bay Hotel

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Published on Oct 8, 2017

Antifa Literature Video footage of the Mandalay Bay’s exterior captured the morning after the massacre proves that three windows on the west face of the building were knocked out in addition to the two windows the media reported to be broken in the shooter’s suite and the adjacent room.

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Published on Oct 3, 2017

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nolu chan  posted on  2017-10-08   19:06:11 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: nolu chan (#28)

Says the person with the image from the credible source, pbase and Klingons.

I demand that you seriously consider that this was a Klingon massacre. I read somewhere that they may have conspired with some Lutherans.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-08   19:16:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: nolu chan, VxH, A K A Stone, misterwhite (#28)

That three-missing-windows video is total crap. It could easily be faked. And it is distinctly unreal looking. The actual building has windows that are deep gold in color, yet we see a fully illuminated blue sky above.

You could fake that video and the windows without a lot of software in a half hour or so.

Take a look at the Qronos16 YouTube channel. It's stuffed full of every kind of kookery that you can name. Menacing asteroids, insidious solar storm, sinister earthquakery, false flaggotry, End Times babbling, Fukushima coverage. Oh, yeah, and highly professional coverage of the Vegas massacre.

Do you seriously expect anyone to credit anything to a YouTube channel of such odious and hackneyed kookery?

YouTube is not a repository of knowledge. It's the Wikipedia of video. And, no, adding 4 billion nutjobs to the internet does not necessarily create more knowledge. A lot of it is just wrong and stupid. Or lures to try to get clicks out of gullible people. People can make significant money doing this.

This is bottom-feeding on YouTube, all in the wake of a human tragedy. So, yes, the loons and kooks are out in full force.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-08   19:34:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: A K A Stone (#27)

It's disputed if you know what you're hearing.

Why don't you know that?

VxH  posted on  2017-10-08   19:35:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: A K A Stone (#22)

Another copy of the same video - claiming to be

[Original footage of las vegas shooting 50 filled 200 injured]

https://www.youtube.com/embed/kcjYefWRsKU? version=1&showinfo=0

Doubful that it's "original" - but anyhow observe the sustained burst in question, between:

https://youtu.be/kcjYefWRsKU?t=8 and
https://youtu.be/kcjYefWRsKU?t=22

There isn't any discernible echo.   Probably because this is the aiming point and not the origination point.

Here's what I see between the last bullet sound and the last report:

 
T1T2Elapsed TimeTotal Distance
17.6918.761.071208.80ft
 

Where T1 is the last bullet sound and T2 is the last report sound.

1.07 seconds between T1 and T2 = 1208 ft. 

1208 ft from the Mandalay Bay, per Google earth, puts us right about where the video is being taken.

 

It's difficult to count the number of bullet events because they are in close synchronization with the report events - but I count somewhere between 80 - 95; making this probably one of the longer events I counted in the cab- driver videos - 94 rounds, which I suspect is from a 100 round drum magazine.

Do we see a belt fed weapon or a drum in the "PLANET X INVESTIGATIONS" video?  Nope. 

More evidence the Niburutards are FOS, as usual. 

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VxH  posted on  2017-10-08   19:38:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Tooconservative, VxH, A K A Stone, misterwhite (#30)

That three-missing-windows video is total crap. It could easily be faked.

Youtube is not exactly a reliable source. It may be useful for discussion and consideration.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-10-08   19:46:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: VxH, A K A Stone (#32)

Doubful that it's "original" - but anyhow observe the sustained burst in question, between:

It it is on Youtube, it is NOT the original, nor a bit for bit copy of the original.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-10-08   19:48:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: A K A Stone, VxH (#22)

Where were was the taxi driver specifically at the first five burst fired.

Show me where you checked the information. How did you find out where the taxi driver was?

This video I posted to the other thread gives a very good idea of where the taxi was and when. He identifies specific Mandalay Bay landmarks in the taxi driver video.

https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=53000&Disp=42#C42

nolu chan  posted on  2017-10-08   20:15:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: nolu chan (#34)

nor a bit for bit copy of the original.

Yeah I see/acknowledge what you're talking about regarding generation loss now -- Compression artifacts introduced by rendering from a compressed source.

VxH  posted on  2017-10-08   20:17:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: VxH, Klingon Ambassador, Kahless the Unforgettable (#32)

Going out to all Klingons.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-10-08   20:22:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: nolu chan (#35)

Yep. Same idea. I just looked for the covered carport with the curved road.

VxH  posted on  2017-10-08   20:30:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: nolu chan (#33)

It may be useful for discussion and consideration.

It's useful to discuss videos that may be fakes amid a stream of other contradictory videos?

I don't think so.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-08   20:31:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: VxH, A K A Stone, Tooconservative (#32)

There isn't any discernible echo.   Probably because this is the aiming point and not the origination point.

Here's what I see between the last bullet sound and the last report:

 
T1T2Elapsed TimeTotal Distance
17.6918.761.071208.80ft
 

Where T1 is the last bullet sound and T2 is the last report sound.

1.07 seconds between T1 and T2 = 1208 ft. 

1208 ft from the Mandalay Bay, per Google earth, puts us right about where the video is being taken.

What do you mean by the last bullet? It that the time of the sound as recorded on that video, or what is it?

Is T1 a gunshot and T2 an echo.

What do you mean by report, if not an echo?

And just how did you calculate such a remarkable result for distance?

Don't tell me. 1,125 feet per second (the speed of sound) x 1.07 = 1,203.75 and you rounded it off to 1,208 feet. Forget the rounding. Why does that measure the distance from the video taker to the shooter?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_sound

In dry air at 0 °C (32 °F), the speed of sound is 331.2 metres per second (1,087 ft/s; 1,192 km/h; 741 mph; 644 kn). At 20 °C (68 °F), the speed of sound is 343 metres per second (1,125 ft/s; 1,235 km/h; 767 mph; 667 kn), or a kilometre in 2.91 s or a mile in 4.69 s.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-10-08   20:52:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Tooconservative (#39)

It may be useful for discussion and consideration.

It's useful to discuss videos that may be fakes amid a stream of other contradictory videos?

It [Youtube] may be useful for discussion and consideration to determine whether some content about something or other is worth considering and researching.

In the same way, reddit and 4chan cannot be taken at face value.

In a thread full of unreliable videos, it may be useful to point out that contrary videos can be produced from Youtube. However, the one video I posted appears useful to get the geography and locate where the taxi driver was relative to the 32nd floor windows and in trying to figure out what area of the hotel is depicted in certain portions of her video. Whether one chooses to believe the flashes are muzzle shots or something else, they are not coming from the 32nd floor. There is a certain usefulness to that video.

Youtube may be useful or entertaining. As proof of things, it is unreliable.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-10-08   21:10:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: nolu chan, A K A Stone, Tooconservative, Klingon Ambassador (#40) (Edited)

>>What do you mean by report, if not an echo?

As any Boy Scout with one of these...

...should know:

https://duckduckgo.com/? q=An+explosive+noise%3A+the+report+of+a+rifle

>>And just how did you calculate such a remarkable result for distance? { blah blah blah wikispew}

I used the same speed I used in my other analysis (appended below) - based upon an air temperature of 72 degrees

Then I calculated the difference in time between the last bullet sound (T1) and the corresponding last report sound (T2).

T2-T1 = time the  report traveled = 1.07

1.07 * FPS of 1130.8 = 1208.8

==========================


An analysis of two sequential burts of gunfire between: 
["Taxi Driver Video" the Zapruder Film of the Las Vegas shooting UNCUT / UNEDITED]
https://www.youtube.com/watch ?v=mBbOFwWquAw&feature=youtu.be&t=1m7s
and
https://www.youtube.com/watc h?v=mBbOFwWquAw&feature=youtu.be&t=1m24s
===============  
T1: Time from start of video (1minute N seconds) at the time of the last shot in the burst.
T2: Time from the start of the video (1minute N seconds) at the time of the echoed sound event corresponding to T1. 
TempF: the air temperature (72 degrees F) 
FPS:   1130 ft per second -- The speed of sound at 72 degrees F
Elapsed Time:  T2 minus T1, the number of seconds between the last shot, and the echo of the last shot in each burst. 
Total Distance:  Elapsed Time * FPS = the total distance traveled between T1 and T2.
Echo Distance  = The distance the echo traveled from the aiming point back to the point of origin.
===============

Conclusion:  Burst B is NOT two weapons being fired simultaneously.  It is one weapon being fired at a more distant target.  The longer distance, observable in the period between Burst B's T1 and T2, manifests a corresponding longer period of reverb.  It is the reverb that is being incorrectly interpreted as a second weapon (and second shooter) firing at the same time.

Research resources:
https://www.google.co m/search?biw=1544&bih=856&q=Forensic+Acoustics+gunfire
http://www.physic sclassroom.com/mmedia/waves/er.cfm
https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/usa/las- vegas/historic
http://www.csgnetwork.c om/soundspeedcalc.html

VxH  posted on  2017-10-08   21:29:32 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: All (#42) (Edited)

 
T1T2Elapsed TimeTotal Distance
17.68965518.7586211.0689661208.80

Here's a snapshot with increased decimal precision and less rounded confusion :-}

VxH  posted on  2017-10-08   21:51:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: nolu chan (#41)

However, the one video I posted appears useful to get the geography and locate where the taxi driver was relative to the 32nd floor windows and in trying to figure out what area of the hotel is depicted in certain portions of her video. Whether one chooses to believe the flashes are muzzle shots or something else, they are not coming from the 32nd floor. There is a certain usefulness to that video.

Unless it is fake.

How do you know that that is the original video? I haven't found an original source of it.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-08   22:03:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: VxH (#42)

Conclusion: Burst B is NOT two weapons being fired simultaneously. It is one weapon being fired at a more distant target. The longer distance, observable in the period between Burst B's T1 and T2, manifests a corresponding longer period of reverb. It is the reverb that is being incorrectly interpreted as a second weapon (and second shooter) firing at the same time.

At some point fairly early in the attack, he must have shot at the aviation fuel tanks. I haven't heard any reporting on that other than that a couple of bullets hit one tank and one bullet did penetrate the tank but caused no explosion (which happens mostly in movies).

That is a nice set of links you've curated. I'm not sure if anyone will examine them. So much easier to go click up another kook video off YouTube than to do any serious science reading.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-08   22:12:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: All (#43) (Edited)

17.689655 18.758621 1.068966 1208.80

Hmmm.

Actually that's not quite the correct calculation required here.

I'm making an error by treating the T1 as the firing time.

Need to update that to incorporate the muzzle velocity....

VxH  posted on  2017-10-08   22:18:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Tooconservative (#45) (Edited)

At some point fairly early in the attack, he must have shot at the aviation fuel tanks.

There is a video (somewhere in the haystack now) that has audio of what sounds like several single hp rifle cracks at the start of the shooting - presumably at the fuel tanks.

VxH  posted on  2017-10-08   22:22:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Tooconservative (#44)

Unless it is fake.

lol.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-10-09   7:09:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: A K A Stone (#48)

Laugh all you want.

If we have tons of contradictory YouTube videos based on this taxi driver video (and none of them prepared from the original video), then most of them must be wrong or scammers trying to draw clicks.

The best you can say is that the ones you are posting are somehow better than the others. And you can't offer any evidence that they were not faked or that they were prepared using authentic undoctored footage.

You're reaching into the YouTube jar and trying to draw out a winner almost at random, mostly based on how clickbaitish their titles are. Maybe there are no winners in the YouTube raffle; maybe all it has are the consolation prizes for dummies.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-09   7:19:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Tooconservative (#49)

Laugh all you want.

If we have tons of contradictory YouTube videos

The taxi video was there right from the start.

You think she was in on it?

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-10-09   7:23:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Tooconservative (#49)

And you can't offer any evidence that they were not faked

You want me to prove a negative?

You can't prove they are fake. Someone on the internet will if they are fake.

The taxi video has been there right from the start. The video chan posted lines up with it.

They are not fake and you know it.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-10-09   7:24:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: A K A Stone (#50)

The taxi video was there right from the start.

Right where? Where are you saying she posted the original video? Where is it? Either you can point me to it or you're just making crap up because you want to believe it or you just don't want to admit to being taken in like a rube with inauthentic video footage.

Among the earliest postings of it seems to be video distributed by Las Vegas Journal-Review. I think the taxi driver sold it to them but I can't confirm that. However, LVJR did not initially distribute the entire video but offered cut-down versions that were edited.

We have no idea whether we have ever seen the original video as she recorded it. We don't even know what brand and model her phone was or what resolution the video was.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-09   7:33:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: A K A Stone (#51) (Edited)

They are not fake and you know it.

I know no such thing. And neither do you.

And you're just blustering now because you finally realize you've been had by these YouTube scammers like the Niburu/Planet X cultists.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-09   7:34:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Tooconservative (#52)

We have no idea whether we have ever seen the original video as she recorded it.

This was the earliest version I saw:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNiRr763gJA&t=3s

Unfortunately no longer available.

VxH  posted on  2017-10-09   8:06:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: nolu chan (#41)

Youtube may be useful or entertaining. As proof of things, it is unreliable.

Youtube is just a tool. 

How reliable or useful it is for discerning the truth is relative to the integrity of the individuals and organizations using it.

Certainly not any less reliable than the arrogant, self- serving, propaganda-parrots perched atop their "Newseum"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N ewseum

VxH  posted on  2017-10-09   8:16:21 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: VxH (#54) (Edited)

That video was posted by BlazingPress.com, a generic rightwing/Christian site. They posted it originally on Tuesday, 10/3/17. You can see a better version of the page (not the video) at Archive.org. That is the same page archived on 10/4.

Very very unlikely that is the original video.

LVNR posted their copy on 10/4 or 10/3, can't recall which.

It could be that these all came from a local network news affiliate who bought it off the taxi driver and then everyone just captured it and published it as their own content. Certainly, that is what Blazing Press did.

This all underlines my previous point: we don't know which of these videos are the original or if there is an original reliable copy of the taxi driver's video. I'm starting to doubt that there is.

Maybe the Klingons and Lutherans have silenced our intrepid taxi driver, threatening to take away her spicy tacos.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-09   8:20:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Tooconservative (#56)

Very very unlikely that is the original video.

Yep.

Maybe the Klingons and Lutherans have silenced our intrepid taxi driver, threatening to take away her spicy tacos.

I'm not convinced it was tacos. Burritos are an equally plausible source of flatulent reverberation in Las Vegas.

VxH  posted on  2017-10-09   8:40:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Tooconservative (#56) (Edited)

 

Cori Langdon October 3 at 8:58pm

Here is my video. It has been edited per the request of the passengers to bleep out their names and end the video before their faces are seen. No other editing has been done.

https://www.facebook.com/cori.l angdon

Looks as clear as the vids I upload to FB from my phone.

VxH  posted on  2017-10-09   9:36:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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