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Title: LVMPD audio: ‘There are at least two shooters with fully-automatic weapons’
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Intellihub/LVMPD
URL Source: https://www.intellihub.com/lvmpd-au ... -with-fully-automatic-weapons/
Published: Oct 4, 2017
Author: Shepard Ambellas
Post Date: 2017-10-06 13:48:39 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 25603
Comments: 115
(INTELLIHUB) — Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department audio captured during last Sunday’s active shooting at Mandalay Bay resort and casino reveals how officers confirmed that there were at least two shooters firing down onto the crowd of concertgoers attending the Route 91 music festival. After a series of fully-automatic gunfire popped off and people started getting struck by flying rounds a team of law enforcement officers and another ‘element’ stormed the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay it was feared that there was an additional shooter on the 29th floor. “We have a four-man team up here and we have another element moving to us. We will need the 29th floor,” one officer said. “It sounds like it’s confirmed, there are at least two shooters with fully-automatic weapons.” Additionally, the audio recordings also reveal that a black Chevy dually pickup truck fled the parking lot during all of the commotions and that an older white male who was wearing fatigues and carrying a black bag was spotted retreating into a white RV by the Tropicana and the Motel 6. Pedestrians said that the man came from the area of the shooting. Pedestrians said that the man came from the area of the shooting and a team eventually converged on the white RV. At one point, a police car was commandeered by an unknown suspect while the two elements on the 32nd floor were cleared for 335 Zebra’s approach to the northernmost room. “This is 335 Zebra. I need to know if we have that floor evacuated other than our suspects. We got […] sniper going up,” a voice called out over the radio. That’s when 720 called in an confirmed he had a 12 man element entering the east side of the Mandalay Bay. [End Audio] It’s important to note that there may be a total media blackout and that other hotels may have been targeted. Keep in mind, the New York Times failed to report the hard details in the conglomerate piece titled “Chaos at a Concert and a Frantic Search at Mandalay Bay.” Leaked LVMPD audio reveals how the mainstream media is hiding crucial details about last Sunday’s shooting at the Route 91 music festival in Las Vegas
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#2. To: Deckard (#0)
Additionally, the audio recordings also reveal that a black Chevy dually pickup truck fled the parking lot during all of the commotions That could easily be an ordinary person fleeing the scene in fear. The reports of multiple shooters should be examined, though in the chaos of a completely unexpected and deadly event like this, on-the-spot inaccuracies will be plentiful.
Yep. The "Taxi Driver" audio says only one shooter required. Why? ====================================== A graphic analysis of two sequential burts of gunfire from: https://www.youtube.com/watch ?v=mBbOFwWquAw&feature=youtu.be&t=1m7s Research resources: https://www.google.co m/search?biw=1544&bih=856&q=Forensic+Acoustics+gunfire http://www.physic sclassroom.com/mmedia/waves/er.cfm https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/usa/las- vegas/historic http://www.csgnetwork.c om/soundspeedcalc.html
This is the 18 minute version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ12xTxs6Ok 18m39s muzzle flash at 5m:00s
Not a muzzle flash. It's a strobe light identified as such by LEO - https://youtu.be/UwD2pypWu-E? t=7m19s
It's a strobe light identified as such by LEO - https://youtu.be/UwD2pypWu-E? t=7m19s Where on that video is it identified as a strobe light??? Your video at 1m05s reports "shots seen and recorded around the 4th or 5th floor." At 1m:15s it reports, "I see shots coming from Mandalay Bay HALF WAY UP!!" At 1m30s it reports, "We have an active shooter... we have an active shooter INSIDE THE FAIRGROUNDS!!" At 2m48s it reports, "Control, be advised SHOTS ARE COMING FROM GATE 7...SHOTS ARE COMING FROM GATE 7!" At 3m28s it reports, "we're seeing multiple flashes IN THE MIDDLE OF Mandalay Bay on the North side...kind of a...on the West tower but TOWARDS THE CENTER of the Casino...it's like one of the MIDDLE FLOORS" At 4m:07s it reports, "a flashing coming up from about a THIRD OF THE WAY UP...CENTER TOWER Mandalay Bay...be advised!" At 5m10s, someone ask if anyone has eyes on the shooter, and the response is, "...about the 15th floor on the Mandalay Bay...facing...um...the whole lot...
And it was still flashing at 5:02 AM the next morning.
He referred to one of the two shot out windows on the 32nd floor. The taxi video did not show the 32nd floor and the flashes lasted the length of a gun burst. 7m25s "There is a strobe coming from one of those windows on the East side." The video provides a closeup of the 32nd floor windows. Cori Langdon's ground level video is just about in the middle right over the entrance, not near the two 32nd floor windows on the East side.
The windows don't open. How many broken windows are there? 2... in one suite on the 32nd floor. >>He referred to one of the two shot out windows on the 32nd floor. The strobe... was still flashing at 5:02 AM the next morning, behind the reporte.
Hundreds of feet from the flashing above entrance caught on video by the taxi driver, and about 25 floors up. The flashing in the taxi video is unrelated to the 32nd floor or the East end of the building.
How many open/broken windows are there?
How many stanchions are in the picture? What does two windows broken on the 32nd floor prove about near ground level?
The "muzzle flash"/strobe you reference at 5:00 continues flashing after the sound of gunfire stops. What does that mean?
What does that mean? It means you have a vivid imagination or a third or fourth generation tape.
The principle of "generations" doesn't apply to reproduction of digital video super genius.
[Vxh #55] The principle of "generations" doesn't apply to reproduction of digital video super genius. It does when the people creating the different versions are of unknown identity or motivation or reliability. The later generations are of unknown veracity. Copying is not 100% acurate, and compression may be used for Youtube posting. The super genius who presents your audio analysis identifies his masterpiece as being second generation. What was on the taxi driver's phone or whatever is the first generation. Unless he made his copy directly from her, he cannot produce a second generation. Assuming the Youtube video came directly from the taxi driver's phone, it would be second generation. Unless your super genius was using the taxi driver's recording device as his source, he did not even have second generation. Audio analysis presented at your #26: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CypkzhGr8FU Flashes vs Sound Analysis of Cori Langdon's Mandalay Bay Taxi Video From 0m34s to 0m46s, your super genius states, Your super genius says he did a second generation rendering, and as a result of his second generation rendition, he claims that the viewer cannot see the first flash. As you claim generations are bullshit, please explain what your super genius is talking about.
His video is a screencap of him using the OpenShot video editor on a fairly modern Windows machine; this editor also runs on Linux and Macs. It takes a variety of video types as inputs (using the FFMpeg library to import them) including WebM (VP9), AVCHD (libx264), HEVC (libx265) and the usual MP3 and AAC audio types. OpenShot outputs to a variety of other formats (MPEG4, ogv, Blu-ray and DVD video, and Full HD videos). I used DownloadHelper, a Firefox extension, to choose a version of the video to download. The choices were: I grabbed the 720p H.264 version. Here are the video specs: The video is only 513Kbps, 1280*720 (16:9), at 30.000fps, AVC (High@L3.1)(CABAC/ 1 Ref Frames). The audio is 192Kbps, 44.1KHz, 2 channels, AAC (LC). Since it is a screengrab, we are definitely seeing a shrunk version of what the supergenius saw on his screen. I find it odd that he didn't include a finished version so people could see it at full resolution. At any rate, with a 720p 513Kbps H.264 video stream, you're lucky if you can see anything at all. That is really low quality video, especially for a night scene. We really don't know what the original footage from the taxi driver's phone was. So necessarily, a shrunken version shown in a screencapped video of an editor and compressed heavily by YouTube is not considered first-generation material. For that, you need a lossless format which no smartphones support. So any first-gen original video is going to be 720p or 1080p h.264 video, in all likelihood. And it would have been 4Mbps - 12Mbps video, not this puny 513Kbps crapfest that we're seeing from YouBoob. I am suspicious though. He could have just played a pixel-per-pixel original video and pointed at it with his mouse. Why the shrunken version and screencapped that way? It makes no sense if you want to accurately convey the original footage. He might also have applied some filters to try to make those flashes more visible. We just don't know. However it is entirely fair to discuss how this video has been recorded originally and the various stages of scaling and compression we are seeing. The use of the term first-generation or second-generation cannot be construed in the same way as we applied those terms to tape. But the cumulative effect of scaling and recompressing and screencapping cannot be denied, whatever term you choose to use to describe this degradation.
Correct. We are definitely not seeing the result of a bit for bit copying process. We are seeing the effects of multiple lossy processing.
#93. To: nolu chan (#92)
We could also just be seeing fakes. Using advanced video processing software, you can do a lot of fake video. Using a tool like Nuke Studio, for instance. Or Nuke Non-Commerical and then you render your edits and just screencap the full playback. My point being, you can get incredibly powerful video editing and special effects generation using freely available software now. And if you have a big profitable YouTube channel, you can just buy the full Nuke Studio. You can look at this page to see how they used Nuke's compositing in the action scenes of Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes. There are literally hundreds of thousands of trained people in America who know how to use Nuke software. Not as many as Photoshop but still a lot. So you have a lot of talent out there to generate any and all kinds of fake videos.
I saw these at GP, hopefully the pix will show up here at LF. Gateway Pundit: Las Vegas Gunman Targeted Massive Aviation Fuel Tanks Those are 43,000 gallon fuel tanks that he shot at from 2,000 feet away. That is a very handy little graphic they produced.
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#3. To: Pinguinite (#2)
The reports of multiple shooters should be examined,
["Taxi Driver Video" the Zapruder Film of the Las Vegas shooting UNCUT / UNEDITED]
#4. To: VxH (#3)
#10. To: nolu chan (#4)
(Edited)
muzzle flash at 5m:00s
#14. To: VxH (#10)
Not a muzzle flash.
#16. To: nolu chan (#14)
#19. To: VxH (#16)
And it was still flashing at 5:02 AM the next morning.
#21. To: nolu chan (#19)
(Edited)
#24. To: VxH (#21)
The strobe... was still flashing at 5:02 AM the next morning, behind the reporte.
#25. To: nolu chan (#24)
(Edited)
#36. To: VxH (#25)
How many open/broken windows are there?
#43. To: nolu chan (#36)
#47. To: VxH (#43)
The "muzzle flash"/strobe you reference at 5:00 continues flashing after the sound of gunfire stops.
#55. To: nolu chan (#47)
(Edited)
It means you have a vivid imagination or a third or fourth generation tape.
#86. To: VxH (#55)
[nc #47] It means you have a vivid imagination or a third or fourth generation tape.
"There is an indication of the first flash that we can see in the video. It can't be seen probably in this rendering because I am doing a second generation rendering...."
#91. To: nolu chan, VxH (#86)
"There is an indication of the first flash that we can see in the video. It can't be seen probably in this rendering because I am doing a second generation rendering...."
MPEG-4 (Base Media / Version 2): 17.5 MiB, 3mn 27s
1 Video stream: AVC
1 Audio stream: AAC
Overall bit rate mode: Variable
Overall bit rate: 707 Kbps
Encoded date: UTC 2017-10-06 02:46:55
Tagged date: UTC 2017-10-06 02:46:55
gsst: 0
#92. To: Tooconservative (#91)
the cumulative effect of scaling and recompressing and screencapping cannot be denied, whatever term you choose to use to describe this degradation
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#94. To: nolu chan, VxH, A K A Stone (#92)
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