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Title: Las Vegas Gunman Was Prescribed Drug Linked to Violent Outbursts
Source: InfoWars
URL Source: https://www.infowars.com/las-vegas- ... g-linked-to-violent-outbursts/
Published: Oct 4, 2017
Author: Paul Joseph Watson
Post Date: 2017-10-04 11:05:21 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 5390
Comments: 43

Las Vegas massacre gunman Stephen Paddock was taking a drug linked to violent outbursts in yet another example of a mass shooter being on a pharmaceutical medication that causes aggressive behavior.

According to the Las Vegas Review Journal, Paddock “was prescribed an anti-anxiety drug in June that can lead to aggressive behavior”.

The drug in question – diazepam – more commonly known as its brand name Valium – was prescribed by Henderson physician Dr. Steven Winkler on June 21 and Paddock purchased 50 10-milligram diazepam tablets from a Walgreens store in Reno on the same day. Paddock was also previously prescribed the same drug in 2016.

The article cites DrugAbuse.com, which warns that diazepam can trigger “aggressive behavior” and “psychotic experiences,” which can be amplified by alcohol consumption.

“If somebody has an underlying aggression problem and you sedate them with that drug, they can become aggressive,” said Dr. Mel Pohl, chief medical officer of the Las Vegas Recovery Center. “It can disinhibit an underlying emotional state. … It is much like what happens when you give alcohol to some people … they become aggressive instead of going to sleep.”

A 2015 study published in World Psychiatry found that teens convicted of homicide were 45 per cent more likely to kill during time periods when they were on benzodiazepines.

However, Dr. Michael First points out that Paddock’s attack was obviously pre-meditated, carefully planned, and could not have occurred on a whim, although he acknowledges the reason behind why Paddock was prescribed diazepam may explain “why he did what he did”.

As we previously highlighted, virtually every major mass shooter was taking some form of SSRI or other pharmaceutical drug at the time of their attack, including Columbine killer Eric Harris, ‘Batman’ shooter James Holmes, Charleston church shooter Dylann Roof and Sandy Hook gunman Adam Lanza.

As the website SSRI Stories profusely documents, there are literally hundreds of examples of mass shootings, murders and other violent episodes that have been committed by individuals on psychiatric drugs over the past three decades.

Pharmaceutical giants who produce drugs like Zoloft, Prozac and Paxil spend around $2.4 billion dollars a year on direct-to-consumer television advertising every year. By running negative stories about prescription drugs, networks risk losing tens of millions of dollars in ad revenue, which is undoubtedly one of the primary reasons why the connection is habitually downplayed or ignored entirely.

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#4. To: Tooconservative (#3)

We don't know if he had other prescriptions for other doctors, got a phoned-in refill, etc.

There are withdrawal issues with diazepam, apparently.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-10-04   11:55:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Tooconservative (#3)

We don't know if he had other prescriptions for other doctors, got a phoned-in refill, etc.

True. So maybe we should stick with what we do know. One old prescription for a limited number of pills does not make an SSRI mass killer.

Geez Louise.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-10-04   11:57:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Pinguinite (#4)

There are withdrawal issues with diazepam, apparently.

Not from 50 pills. Unless you know that he had a long-standing habit?

misterwhite  posted on  2017-10-04   12:03:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Tooconservative (#0)

The drug in question – diazepam – more commonly known as its brand name Valium – was prescribed by Henderson physician Dr. Steven Winkler on June 21 and Paddock purchased 50 10-milligram diazepam tablets from a Walgreens store in Reno on the same day. Paddock was also previously prescribed the same drug in 2016.

The article cites DrugAbuse.com, which warns that diazepam can trigger “aggressive behavior” and “psychotic experiences,” which can be amplified by alcohol consumption.

News to me.

TrappedInMd  posted on  2017-10-04   13:02:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: misterwhite (#5) (Edited)

True. So maybe we should stick with what we do know. One old prescription for a limited number of pills does not make an SSRI mass killer.

Not that old a prescription. Other reporting indicates that he has 3 other homes and could have had doctors/pharmacies in each place. He could have had multiple doctors/pharmacies in Nevada alone. I've known people who had 3-4 doctors in one smallish town and dealt with two pharmacies, keeping them all in the dark about each other.

It does suggest that he is/was an SSRI user and may have had other pharmaceutical habits. It is information we did not have before now.

This is how investigations are conducted.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-04   13:04:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Tooconservative (#0)

I believe all the massmurders have been on some kind "anti-anxiety" or "anti-depression" drug and when they come off it they flip-out.

Im thinking Psychiatric board need to deal with these issues because its causing problems in a massive way.

It might be time to start suing people who prescribe these medicines and the makers.

Justified  posted on  2017-10-04   13:18:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Justified (#9) (Edited)

I believe all the massmurders have been on some kind "anti-anxiety" or "anti-depression" drug and when they come off it they flip-out.

I think it isn't just withdrawal. I think that the SSRIs tend to depress violent tendencies and self-harm tendencies in a vast majority of users. But if they do become agitated, they can become far far more violent. For an SSRI user who is getting violent, the SSRI drugs are like pouring gasoline on a fire. Even worse than a violent person drinking heavily because the drunk psycho doesn't think or act as well where the SSRI psycho can function as well as ever and seems quite normal.

And once the SSRI psycho goes postal, they nearly always commit suicide after their shooting spree, either suicide by cop or by their own hand.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-04   13:27:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Tooconservative, Mothers Little Helper, Valium (#0)

Mothers Little Helper, Valium!

RELAX with a mass murder spree.

FYI, Alex Jones has been out of favor since he endorsed Mitt Romney in 2012. Sold out to the NWO!

Hondo68  posted on  2017-10-04   15:39:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: hondo68 (#11)

FYI, Alex Jones has been out of favor since he endorsed Mitt Romney in 2012. Sold out to the NWO!

I only recall him blasting Rand Paul for endorsing Romney.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-04   15:57:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: hondo68 (#11)

Married couple two separate beds. There's the man's problem.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-10-04   17:06:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: redleghunter (#13)

Married couple two separate beds. There's the man's problem.

Would separate bedrooms help?

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-04   17:11:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: redleghunter (#13)

Married couple two separate beds.

in those days it was considered too racy to have even a married couple in one bed.

Procreation was done by stork.

Hondo68  posted on  2017-10-04   17:22:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: misterwhite (#6)

Not from 50 pills. Unless you know that he had a long-standing habit?

Unless I know?

But I do know for a fact that he had a long standing habit. Of course I know that. I've known that for a long time. You know it too. Everyone knows about that.

Or perhaps you know for a fact that these were the first pills he was ever prescribed, and never obtained them, or others, illegally. Do you know that for a fact?

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-10-05   0:42:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Tooconservative (#10)

I think it isn't just withdrawal. I think that the SSRIs tend to depress violent tendencies and self-harm tendencies in a vast majority of users. But if they do become agitated, they can become far far more violent. For an SSRI user who is getting violent, the SSRI drugs are like pouring gasoline on a fire. Even worse than a violent person drinking heavily because the drunk psycho doesn't think or act as well where the SSRI psycho can function as well as ever and seems quite normal.

The human brain is easily the least understood organ in the human body. Easily.

And it's not like these pharma companies analyze the human brain and carefully engineer a chemical drug that will repair a problem. No, it's not like that at all. It's far more dicey than that. What they do is come up with a concoction that looks like it does some good, albeit with side effects, and then experiment with it, first with mice and such, and if results seem acceptable, then with people. They will modify the concoction so that the average effect is more desirable. But they have no clue, really, as to how the drug works or the full effect of it, nor do they know for certain if it affects everyone the same. They know there are side-effects. There always are, and they know some subjects suffer differing side effects and to differing degrees. But psycho drugs are in no way a product of engineering. It's instead more resembles a paint job of a wall from 50 feet away.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-10-05   0:57:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Tooconservative, misterwhite (#8)

It does suggest that he is/was an SSRI user and may have had other pharmaceutical habits.

Valium is not an SSRI which acts on seratonin levels. It is a benzo, a different class of drug which acts differently.

Valium is a tranquilizer and muscle relaxant. Aggressive behavior is only listed as a side effect to chronic use or abuse, by the article's cited source. Withdrawal may be a bitch.

https://drugabuse.com/library/the-effects-of-valium-use/

Chronic use or abuse of sedatives such as Valium is associated with:

  • Depression.
  • Aggressive behavior.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-10-05   5:04:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Tooconservative (#2)

16 Unanswered Questions About The Las Vegas Shooting That The Mainstream Media Doesn’t Want To Talk About

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-10-05   7:52:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: nolu chan (#18)

True, valium is not an SSRI and is a benzodiazapam.

Even so, it is not as harmless as its manufacturers have tried to portray it.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-05   7:54:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Tooconservative (#10)

To be honest, I posted this because I'm worried about LF's habitual CTs. They're Jonesing for any kind of conspiracy and their usual CT outlets have left them high and dry.

For someone dismissing this as a CT, here you are saying that the story has merits.

I think it isn't just withdrawal. I think that the SSRIs tend to depress violent tendencies and self-harm tendencies in a vast majority of users. But if they do become agitated, they can become far far more violent. For an SSRI user who is getting violent, the SSRI drugs are like pouring gasoline on a fire.

What a tool!!

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-10-05   7:57:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Deckard (#21) (Edited)

To be honest, I posted this because I'm worried about LF's habitual CTs. They're Jonesing for any kind of conspiracy and their usual CT outlets have left them high and dry.

I'm just worried about the mental health of you chronic CTers.

What to do after your cult leader, Alex Jones, admits openly during his child custody hearings that he has always been a phony, playing on your paranoid delusions for money?

No wonder you're so bitter.

What a tool!!

Normally, I only hear that in bed late at night.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-05   9:02:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Pinguinite (#16)

Do you know that for a fact?

I know for a fact he was prescribed 50 pills three months ago. That's it.

You're the one who brought up the withdrawal issue with diazepam. Why bring that up unless you're suggesting he had a withdrawal issue with diazepam? Did he? I just want to know why you think that.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-10-05   10:13:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Tooconservative (#20)

Even so, it is not as harmless as its manufacturers have tried to portray it.

Which is why you need a prescription.

You're not one of those who think all drugs, including not-as-harmless valium, should be legal and available at the local 7-11, are you?

misterwhite  posted on  2017-10-05   10:16:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: misterwhite (#24)

Which is why you need a prescription.

I think we need to re-examine all these drugs. Most of them are consumed as recreational drugs, no matter what the users and the manufacturers are saying.

I think they are quite dangerous to some individuals, as bad as any narcotic would be. But they remain legal because they got them past the rather corrupt FDA.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-05   10:30:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: misterwhite (#23)

Why bring that up unless you're suggesting he had a withdrawal issue with diazepam? Did he? I just want to know why you think that.

Why do I think that? Good question. I dunno. Maybe because he freakin shot up a concert arena full of people & killed or injured over 500 of them?

But maybe that's just silly, and we should focus our search on completely rational and sane reasons why he would have been compelled to do that. Obviously we should assume the guy was of sound mind when he did it, right?

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-10-05   10:32:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Tooconservative (#25)

Most of them are consumed as recreational drugs,

Not legally. Plus you have to balance that against how many lives are saved by this drug. It's not like the drug isn't useful.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-10-05   10:40:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Pinguinite (#26)

Police Source: Vegas Shooter Tried to Get Room Over Outdoor Rap Concert a Week Prior

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-10-05   10:46:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Pinguinite (#26)

Maybe because he freakin shot up a concert arena full of people & killed or injured over 500 of them?

True. And you have reason to believe that it was due to a withdrawal issue with diazepam? What's that reason?

"Obviously we should assume the guy was of sound mind when he did it, right?"

Looks that way. He planned this. He stockpiled weapons and ammo. He picked a room high enough with two fields of fire. He even brought a hammer to break the windows.

He was bored. He had money, but simply sat in the casinos playing video poker. That was his life. So one day he figured he'd had enough and decided to end his life in the most dramatic way he knew how.

To us, it's crazy. To him, it's "Why not?"

misterwhite  posted on  2017-10-05   10:53:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: misterwhite (#29)

He was bored. He had money, but simply sat in the casinos playing video poker. That was his life. So one day he figured he'd had enough and decided to end his life in the most dramatic way he knew how.

There's a lot more to it, I think.

He was (or thought he was) extremely allergic to a lot of stuff. His girlfriend couldn't wear perfumes or makeup or use soaps, etc. Because he was a high-roller, he got the hotels in Vegas to clean his rooms with only water, no chemical cleaners, not even plain vinegar (a go-to for allergic people or those with delicate pets like birds).

Maybe what tipped him over to kill was that he became convinced that he was going to die before too long because his allergies were just getting worse and worse and he had no relief. And being a lib voter, he hated Republicans. So if he was gonna go, he'd take 50 of them with him.

I think there was something like that that he had in mind. There was also some nitrate fertilizer that wasn't prepared as an explosive and a fair amount of legal tannerite that he didn't use.

There are a lot of questions we have no answers to and not even enough evidence to make an informed guess.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-05   11:21:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Tooconservative (#30)

And being a lib voter, he hated Republicans. So if he was gonna go, he'd take 50 of them with him.

How was he able to select 50 Republicans out of that crowd of 22,000? If he had a hard-on for Republicans, why not wait for an outdoor Republican campaign rally?

misterwhite  posted on  2017-10-05   11:35:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: misterwhite (#31)

How was he able to select 50 Republicans out of that crowd of 22,000? If he had a hard-on for Republicans, why not wait for an outdoor Republican campaign rally?

Do you know a single country western fan who is a Dem? I don't.

That concert would have been very Republican with a decent number of indy voters and a small number of non-voters in the mix. I don't doubt that the shooter made exactly the same assumptions that I am making.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-05   11:40:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: misterwhite (#29)

He was bored.

And you know this to be factually true.... how?

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-10-05   11:45:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Deckard, Tooconservative (#21)

For someone dismissing this as a CT, here you are saying that the story has merits.

TC will conveniently trot out CTs -- just as long as it helps catapult the "official" gubmint narrative.

Liberator  posted on  2017-10-05   11:48:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Tooconservative (#25)

I think we need to re-examine all these drugs. Most of them are consumed as recreational drugs, no matter what the users and the manufacturers are saying.

AND you know that HOW and WHY, Dr. Tooconservative?

OR, are you merely speculating as many CTers do?

Liberator  posted on  2017-10-05   11:50:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Deckard (#28)

Seems a reasonable write-up. Yes, people with political agendas, including all of us, will try to cast this event as the fault of our political or ideological opponents. That is a normal human response.

If he did try to shoot up a rap concert, then that would eliminate the general Republican/conservative/pro-Trump political bend of country music fans as possible motive.

As someone said recently, it's not possible to for this event to not be politicized.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-10-05   12:00:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Liberator (#34)

TC will conveniently trot out CTs -- just as long as it helps catapult the "official" gubmint narrative.

But you're such easy targets.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-05   12:02:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Liberator (#35)

Pharma drugs are a big thing in the USA.

I easily found this: http://apps.who.int/medicinedocs/en/d/Js6160e/6.html

• In 1999, the 15% of the world’s population who live in high-income countries purchased and consumed about 90% of total medicines, by value. This concentration in the pattern of global sales and consumption has increased over the past 15 years, with the share of the low-income countries falling and that of the high-income countries growing. The market share of the USA alone rose from 18.4% of the world total in 1976 to over 52% in 2000.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-10-05   12:17:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Deckard, Stoner, nolu chan (#28)

Police Source: Vegas Shooter Tried to Get Room Over Outdoor Rap Concert a Week Prior

Ya see?

At least here you are searching for sources for infooutside the mainstream, trying to create REAL dots to connect -- and your effort are met with..."meh"....:-)

Maybe this angle or "news" is relevant, maybe not. But was released by LVPD with purpose. BUT WHAT? We are informed -- is a "piece of the puzzle" of insight into the mind of a mass executioner. (I suppose we'll be hit with all kinds of piecemeal "ino" -- all designed to evoke the lying, diverting, distracting narrative the PTB want. And NOT the truth.

So, we are told the source of this revelation is LV Police. Should THEY be believed at face value?

Is this heads-up legit or disinfo/diversion? Complete of incomplete info? What is the reason for releasing this? We get a hint within the story:

The reader learns that the 'Life Is Beautiful' Concert is characterized as a "Outdoor Rap Concert". NOT totally TRUE. (There was a variety of music.) But "Rap" connotes a sea of black people, obviously.

The reader learns The Perp tried in vain to book room but could not book one there that gave him (and his unmentioned sniper associates) a open angle. Thus we are led to conclude that perp Paddock had NO specific ideological target in mind; That "Trumpettes" -- by and large country Country Music fans, Republicans, conservatives and white people happened to be chosen as a "Choice #2" -- was just the bad luck of what is suggested, 50-50 odds.

For the record, THE "Outdoor Rap" Festival was NOT that; IF it was, it would have been run like zoo. Instead, it was far more popular venue of all kinds of artists and music, refined, luxurious and "high-end" in terms of its amenities its set up. The "Country" concert was far more raw all together and spontaneous. Its security set up and exit situation was also raw. As in sloppy or non-existent.

The reader is obviously led to believe the Sniper was fully prepared to slaughter Rap Concert attendees as well -- if only he found a "Room With A View." Plausible, isn't it? Perhaps by design.

The suggestion that the perp could be considering targeting BOTH demos is intended to muddle the notion from any who definitively claim the perp may have been Antifa or Dem Symp. The Narrative: Paddock wanted to take out ANYONE. EVERYONE. (which make NO sense.) As a "Lone Wolf" (again, NOT believable.)

Finally, the subject of "Drugs" is injected as a possible facilitator and reason to reinforce a narrative for the perp's warped state of mind; The suggestion that Valium use was a major factor in this entire, intricately planned operation and NOT politics or a finely-tuned operation requiring much help? Ridiculous.

Liberator  posted on  2017-10-05   12:56:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Liberator, Tooconservative, Stoner, A K A Stone (#39)

Finally, the subject of "Drugs" is injected as a possible facilitator and reason to reinforce a narrative for the perp's warped state of mind; The suggestion that Valium use was a major factor in this entire, intricately planned operation and NOT politics or a finely-tuned operation requiring much help? Ridiculous.

Yeah - ridiculous!

Move along sheep....nothing to see here. "These are not the droids you are looking for".

Every mass shooting over last 20 years has one thing in common... and it's not guns

This was from 2013 - it's a safe bet that the trend has continued since then.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-10-05   13:13:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Deckard (#40)

This was from 2013 - it's a safe bet that the trend has continued since then.

It does seem there is an extremely high correlation between these drugs and mass shootings.

But that may be correlation, not causality.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-05   14:37:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Deckard (#40)

("Yeah - ridiculous!")

Move along sheep....nothing to see here. "These are not the droids you are looking for".

Every mass shooting over last 20 years has one thing in common... and it's not guns [But drugs.]

Out of my entire Post #39, you distilled my points down to THIS?? Lol, ok.

Q: Are you aware of just how many tens of millions of people take SOME kind of "drug" *without* going on a murder spree??

Btw, I checked out that list mass murderers and list of their corresponding drug scripts; The common thread: Most took their meds for either high anxiety OR depression TO BEGIN WITH. Perhaps...THE primary common thread of mass murderers is mental illness and demon possession -- and NOT medication (aka "Icing-on-the-Cake.")

Guess what 100% of the perps ALSO took on a daily basis?? H20. So ingesting H20 = Mass murder, right?

CONCLUSION: Medications may or may NOT help the already seriously mentally ill. The vast majority of psychotics, psychopaths, demon possessed, or Muzzies still manage to control their urges and NOT shoot up concerts, churches, schools, stores, and other groups of people.

I don't why I waste my time at this place. WAIT - the past week was a stark reminder.

As an observer, I'll just give Nurse Ratchet a wave goodbye out the door. Carry on...

Liberator  posted on  2017-10-05   19:49:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Liberator (#42) (Edited)

Out of my entire Post #39, you distilled my points down to THIS?? Lol, ok.

Yeah - I guess I was in a hurry to post a reply. With all due respect I agree with you 90% of the time.

Your point about water is a valid one, however it's disingenuous to discount the part that psychotropic drugs have played in all of the mass shootings here in the U.S. and elsewhere.

Perhaps...THE primary common thread of mass murderers is mental illness and demon possession -- and NOT medication (aka "Icing-on-the-Cake.")

I would wholeheartedly agree that demon possession is likely - perhaps these drugs make one more susceptible to demonic influence. As far as the muslim connection, in this case thus far his religious beliefs did not factor into the shooting.

At the risk of being called a CT, it's possible he was used as a patsy.

It certainly seems that there was more than one shooter in Vegas that night.

I do hope you'll stick around - you are one of the few people left here who actually sees the big picture.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-10-06   5:51:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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