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Title: Vegas gunman used ‘bump-stock’ device to speed fire
Source: Q13FOX
URL Source: http://q13fox.com/2017/10/02/las-ve ... mp-stock-device-to-speed-fire/
Published: Oct 3, 2017
Author: Associated Press
Post Date: 2017-10-03 08:31:47 by Willie Green
Keywords: None
Views: 1856
Comments: 24

NEW YORK (AP) — The gunman who unleashed hundreds of rounds of gunfire on a crowd of concertgoers in Las Vegas attached what is called a “bump-stock” to two of his weapons, in effect converting semi-automatic firearms into fully automatic ones.

The devices have attracted scrutiny in recent years from authorities.

California Sen. Dianne Feinstein has long railed against them. Several years ago, she told The Associated Press she was concerned about the emergence of new technologies that could retrofit firearms to make them fully automatic.

“This replacement shoulder stock turns a semi-automatic rifle into a weapon that can fire at a rate of 400 to 800 rounds per minute,” she said.

A semi-automatic weapon requires one trigger pull for each round fired. With a fully automatic firearm, one trigger pull can unleash continuous rounds until the magazine is empty.

The purchasing of fully automatic weapons has been significantly restricted in the U.S. since the 1930s.

In 1986, the federal National Firearms Act was amended further to prohibit the transfer or possession of machine guns by civilians, with an exception for those previously manufactured and registered.

Numerous attempts to design retrofits failed until recent years when bump stocks came on the market.

The device basically replaces the gun’s shoulder rest, with a “support step” that covers the trigger opening. By holding the pistol grip with one hand and pushing forward on the barrel with the other, the shooter’s finger comes in contact with the trigger. The recoil causes the gun to buck back and forth, “bumping” the trigger.

Technically, that means the finger is pulling the trigger for each round fired, keeping the weapon a legal semi-automatic.

Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock had 23 guns in his hotel room.

Two officials familiar with the investigation told the AP that Paddock had bump stocks attached to two semi-automatic guns. The U.S. officials were briefed by law enforcement and spoke on the condition of anonymity because the investigation is ongoing.

Paddock killed 59 people and wounded hundreds more at a country music festival near his hotel. Police stormed his 32nd floor hotel room and found that he had killed himself after committing the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history.


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#1. To: Willie Green (#0)

“This replacement shoulder stock turns a semi-automatic rifle into a weapon that can fire at a rate of 400 to 800 rounds per minute,” she said.

Yep. Depending how tightly you hold it. Meaning the rate of fire is variable and will increase and decrease while shooting. Listen to the rate of fire starting at 2:50 in the video:

The rate of fire I heard on the Las Vegas video was constant.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-10-03   8:39:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: misterwhite (#1)

Congrats on finding a bump fire installation video with a chick showing decent cleavage in a tank top and leotard with her legs spread.

I did notice it took her a few false starts initially to get it to simulate the auto-fire as intended.

Some pros say you can never depend on these things in a real self-defense situation and that they're useless for hunting. They say the only use for them is to waste a lot of ammo impressing your buddies down at the range. You can blow through over $100 of the cheapest AR15 ammo a minute with one.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-03   9:27:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Tooconservative (#3)

You can blow through over $100 of the cheapest AR15 ammo a minute with one.

The Vegas shooter was a wealthy, retired accountant & high roller in the casinos, so the cost of ammo was probably chump change to him.

Willie Green  posted on  2017-10-03   9:59:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Willie Green (#4)

The Vegas shooter was a wealthy, retired accountant & high roller in the casinos, so the cost of ammo was probably chump change to him.

Maybe. He certainly was a wealthy retiree but he had been excessive too. His brother mentioned that he had gone on binges of video poker, staying in hotels for 4 months at a time.

Maybe he lost his money and hit bottom and decided this was how he wanted to go out.

Or he just didn't like country music much.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-03   10:17:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Tooconservative (#5)

Or he just didn't like country music much.

My theory is that the concert was so loud that he couldn't sleep. So he dealt with it.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-10-03   11:58:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: misterwhite (#9)

Peddling CTs? You've hung around Decker too long. Next thing, you'll be smoking da ganja and posting those FTP articles.

The perp brought an awful lot of guns & ammo along just to deal with noisy neighbors. Sounds like he'd have had to make at least 4-6 trips back and forth to his car to get them all up to his room. Guns and ammo in those quantities are pretty heavy, maybe 300+ lbs.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-03   12:08:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Tooconservative (#10)

Sounds like he'd have had to make at least 4-6 trips back and forth to his car to get them all up to his room.

Naw,the big hotels provide wheeled carts to move your luggage.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-10-03   14:50:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: sneakypete (#13)

I know but it's still a lot of heavy bulky stuff. A lot of hardware to rattle around.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-03   14:52:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Tooconservative (#15)

I know but it's still a lot of heavy bulky stuff. A lot of hardware to rattle around.

Yeah,but Vegas ain't the kind of town where hotel personnel ask guests many questions. ESPECIALLY high-roller guests that have been there before and stay for days at a time to gamble.

He could have probably led sheep into his room using leashes,and nobody would have blinked.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-10-03   14:59:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: sneakypete (#18)

I'm still waiting for all the usual CT nuts to invent a conspiracy theory.

If they don't hurry up, I may have to spin up my own CT so they don't get depressed and start crying.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-03   15:02:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Tooconservative (#19)

I'm still waiting for all the usual CT nuts

What've you got against Connecticut (besides the fact that I live here)?

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-10-03   15:07:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Vicomte13 (#20)

What've you got against Connecticut (besides the fact that I live here)?

CT also stands for conspiracy theory.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-03   15:17:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#24. To: Tooconservative (#22)

CT also stands for conspiracy theory.

Oh. Right. Got it. Thanks!

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-10-03 17:02:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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