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Title: Las Vegas mass shooting: more than one shooter?
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No More Fake News
URL Source: https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/ ... hooting-more-than-one-shooter/
Published: Oct 2, 2017
Author: Jon Rappoport
Post Date: 2017-10-03 06:51:39 by Deckard
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Comments: 66
This is my second report on the tragic mass murder in Las Vegas on Sunday night (first report here). I’m looking at a Getty image of two broken windows claimed to be on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Hotel, where the shooter purportedly fired an automatic weapon(s) at concert goers. I count 10 intact windows going around a corner of the building between the two broken ones. These broken windows are from the same hotel room? That’s questionable, and worth checking. If the windows are from two adjacent rooms, it suggests the likelihood of more than one shooter. Las Vegas police scanner audio on first call-out to the hotel records an officer emphatically saying the shots are coming from half-way up the hotel. The hotel has 43 stories. The 32nd floor is where police claim they found shooter Stephen Paddock’s dead body and his cache of weapons. Perhaps the police officer was estimating when he said “half-way up.” If not, he was seeing shots fired from lower in the hotel. That would suggest the possibility of multiple shooters on different floors. The latest estimate: 58 dead, 515 injured. It’s expected that more dead and wounded will be reported. Variety.com states: “…the shooting rampage that police have said lasted about four and a half minutes.” 515 wounded, 58 killed in four and a half minutes. That would come out to an average of one person killed or injured every 2.1 seconds. The question arises: how likely is it that one person, particularly Stephen Paddock, was the shooter, since according to his brother, Stephen was “not an avid gun guy at all…He has no military background or anything like that.” I’ve still not seen a definitive statement about what kind of auto weapon(s) Paddock was supposedly using. One television commentator mentioned it would have been very, very expensive. Initial reports of more than one shooter were quickly dismissed this morning. The possibility of more than one (professional) shooter is real—and Paddock is not a candidate whose apparent lack of experience and background makes him an immediate choice… These are questions, not conclusions, and they should remain open questions—in distinction to mainstream news, which has, as usual, gone along with blinders, taking dictation from law enforcement: One shooter, dead, case closed.
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#1. To: Deckard (#0)
It doesn't matter. The muther-phucker chose to murder innocent people from across the street INTENTIONALLY. He could have used a pea-shooter for all I care; however, he used an automatic weapon in order to have injured/killed about 600 people. He took a video of himself performing the atrocity, even to include his own suicide. There are phuckedupped people in America.
Since when? I've seen the reports, checked the major news websites, Drudge, etc. He left no messages on social media, no note, no videos. Nada. If you have a link to such video, post it. Put up or shut up.
How strange for you, Decktard, to be peddling the mainstream media narrative. C'mon, can't you find even one account of "known crisis actors" at the Vegas massacre? You're slipping, dude. You've sold out to The Man.
How strange for you, Decktard, to be peddling the mainstream media narrative. Sarcasm not obvious to you? C'mon, can't you find even one account of "known crisis actors" at the Vegas massacre? You're too fucking stupid to understand that there is more than one script for events like this. Well, thank God we have you to explain it all to us. Have you settled on which bullshit CT you're going to peddle to us this time? Try to come up with something original. How about "it was space aliens"? I don't recall you using that one on a massacre story yet.
Unlike you, I question the official narrative of events like this. You're too frigging dense to do anything other than chow down on the pablum which is being spoon-fed to you by the MSM. Well, since you can't come up with a single crisis actor or decent CT, I suppose I'll have to help you out. What to do when a rabid CT artist is down on his luck and runs out of new CT bullcrap to spread around Teh Interwebs like a venereal disease? Kinda sad really. Here you go.
The author raises some very good points. I challenge anyone to listen to the gunfire in these online videos and conclude it’s only from a single weapon. The very idea is totally absurd. You can clearly hear at least two automatic weapons systems firing over each other. Listen to the automatic weapons fire at about the 2:00 mark in the video below. It’s clearly coming from multiple weapons: Maybe he practiced enough to hold and fire two bump fire rifles at once. He could have used a hold-down to control their tendency to climb.
Correct. Though not necessarily by gunfire.
On the receiving end of gunfire, you'll hear the crack of the bullet breaking the sound barrier followed by the gunshot.
Hush. You'll spoil the whole CT thing for him.
Yes. Everyone I know that has heard this says "multiple weapons." If I'm not mistaken there are multiple calibers at work too. You don't have to be touting a CT of one kind or another to realize that once again something is screwy.
So now the ballistic audiophiles are going to weigh in? I guess it is at least a new variety of CT. I know you guys have to be Jonesing for a fresh conspiracy.
Sounded like multiple weapons to me. At least two.
Si vis pacem, para bellum Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. Never Pick A Fight With An Old Man He Will Just Shoot You He Can't Afford To Get Hurt "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers)
You don't have to be touting a CT of one kind or another to realize that once again something is screwy. " Yes, I read elsewhere that .308 & .223 I agree, something is screwy with this incident, does not seem to add up. Si vis pacem, para bellum Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. Never Pick A Fight With An Old Man He Will Just Shoot You He Can't Afford To Get Hurt "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers)
NO DOUBT. Multiple perps. NOT ONLY more than one shooter, but a Black Op. OR an subversive Opposition Op that was enabled/fore-known (yes, like 911.) The so-called "perp" is a patsy. There is NO way he had the time, inclination, know-how, or military background to pull off such an efficient slaughter. QUESTION: WHO PROFITS FROM THIS INCIDENT? WHICH GROUPS REP HATE TO THIS EXTENT? TO WHAT AGENDA WOULD AN INCIDENT LIKE THIS PROFIT? (Ideologically)? That the thoroughly discredited Alphabet agys IMMEDIATELY discounted the usual suspects tells me it IS the "usual suspects." OCCAM'S RAZOR APPLIES.
Even *you* have conceded this event "makes no sense." If true, NO cynical speculation should be considered "Jonesing." Speaking of "Jonesing," why aren't those who seeking and begging for a "logical explanation," "JONESING" for their same ol' Unicorn shitting out rainbows??
I'd agree that shooting 500 peaceful civilians never makes sense, even if they are country-western fans. But you have no proof so you can hardly say "if true". That's just a pretext. And Jonesing is the perfect present participle of the verb Jones, as in to Jones, a play on words indicating seeking a fix for something addictive and a reference to Alex Jones, king of the CT tribe and notorious Truther nutjob. Sometimes I think my efforts to offer creative posts goes entirely unappreciated here.
Uh, NOT THE context nor premise and you know it. Why must you play these games?? And Jonesing is the perfect present participle of the verb Jones, as in to Jones, a play on words indicating seeking a fix for something addictive and a reference to Alex Jones, king of the CT tribe and notorious Truther nutjob. Yes, I get the whole play on words, as well as the original intent of definition. +1 for Cuteness. -100 for your usual condescending "CT" bullshit. With respect to this particular "incident," it would take child-like naivete or utter stupidity to believe THIS one guy acted alone as a "Lone Wolf"; was NOT part of a mega-organized effort; AND to believe in ones heart of hearts that NO Alphabet Agy (who we are assured monitor ANY suspicious characters down to the last keystroke and "Buh-bye" of a phone call) DID NOT KNOW this operation was going down. Other factors to consider: 1) The perp's GF was Indonesian (Muslim). She has now "disappeared." Much like the Miami Gay Club GF....Or wife in the San Bernadino slaughter. OR, the GF/Wives of ANY of these slaughters. 1A (See a pattern here?? HINT: Alphabet Agys and LE have established an incredibly bizarre policy of NON-pursuit of accomplices. One can even make the case that they stood down as the perp continued his slaughter. These observations are NEVER questioned by the same media who have rummaged through Sarah Palin's garbage, but still YOU seem to believe are MORE legit a source of "news" than Alex Jones.) 2) ISIS claimed responsibility. Dismissed of course by Alphabet Agys IMMEDIATELY. 3) There are reports that the perp was a Muzzie Convert. (What else is new?) 4) The Perp(s) targeting of a demo of a crowd would actually indict domestic ISIS, Muzzie Groups, Antifa or BLM -- who've ALL officially "declared war" on America, but especially certain OTHER political/racial/philosophical demos. 5) Since the MSM and a vast majority have already well established itself as the Propaganda Arm and subsidiary of both the Democrat Party as well as the Globalist Elites Inc (The actual Parent Company of both), WHY on earth should any normal sentient human being believe ANY of their bullshit? We even just learned that a CBS VP get fired for celebrating the slaughter of 600 people -- because they were "country music fans. aka "Republicans." PERIOD. Btw -- Alex Jones possesses more cred in his left ball than the MSM possesses. Even if right half the time. That makes him and his sources FAR more apt to expose THE truth of any given matter. Yes, by all means do go on lapping up the misdirection of FOX/CNN/NBC/NYT/WaPo "news" as gospel. Even though they constantly and shamelessly represent skewed news and lies, slanted 180 degrees LEFT. FACT: YOUR hallowed "news" sources are LEFTIST/GLOBALIST talking heads, scripted to lie via omission, misdirection, diversion, masking, and innuendo. You say nothing of THEIR historical collusion to repeat EXACTLY what the other network report, nearly verbatim. (Forgotten "Journ-O-Listers" already?) I'd call this kind of Network so-called "reporting" -- one which collectively publicly endorses and supports the VERY SAME common-collective agenda -- the REAL "Vast Conspiracy." It's not even a "conspiracy" if it's been proven. And it HAS. I'd welcome any refutation of any of my claims.
Sometimes I think my efforts to offer creative posts goes entirely unappreciated here. I'd welcome any refutation of any of my claims ---- Liberator On the contrary, what you both post is much appreciated, ---- keep it up...
Sorry to let facts stand in the way of your developing CT but she was a Filipino with Aussie citizenship. She was in the Philippines visiting family at the time and is supposedly returning to America on her own to answer any questions they have. The Philippines is 92% Christian, 5.5% Muslim and a smattering other religions. Try again. ISIS has made two claims of attacks in the last six months in which they were not involved. Prior to that, their claims of ISIS terror attacks were supported by the facts but no longer. They are desperate to remain relevant as they are killed off in Syria/Iraq. They're finished there and their only hope to have any impact is to inspire attacks in the West even if they have to lie about it. The only "report" is the claim by ISIS. No facts support it. So he's a Muslim terr'ist unless he's a commie or a white Black Power guy. Or maybe he's a Muslim commie Black Power white supremacist. Maybe he's just mad that the NFL playas won't stand for the anthem. Or maybe you can make something else up when those all fall through. But you and Alex Jones, you're the ones with real credibility? LOL
Well, I was being just a little sarcastic... : )
There's got to be a lot of bullets around the area from his misses, as well as the ones they dig out of the victims. Varying trajectories could prove multiple gunmen/women, in other locations. The government and MSM won't be able to cover up them all. Could be some 7.62 X 39 commie AK-47 ones too.
Hey. I even appreciate comments from idiots like misterwhite...
I'm still waiting for you to post this video of the killer during his attack. It should be easy to find since it is the top story everywhere.
Yeah. I feel the same way about my insightful, intelligent, perspicacious yet witty observations.
It's tragic to be so misunderstood by small-minded and jealous people.
At least Ted was firing a real machine gun. He looked almost as tough as Ma Feinstein with a Thompson or Bugsy Schumer with his Uzi. Didn't Ted have another one where he fried bacon on a machine gun barrel while shooting it as a campaign stunt?
Should be easy enough to match the bullets to the recovered weapons. If a number of intact bullets don't match, that could mean more than one shooter.
Yes. Yes it is. But don't you pay them fools no never mind. Just follow their advice and "keep it up".
Yeah. Or Dukakis in his tank. (By the way, there's no such thing as an M29. Cruz was shooting the M249 SAW (Squad Automatic Weapon). As though he thought it was going to bite him.
Thank you... Those may read your posts but may nod in agreement. It's not a large forum as you well know. I can only speak for myself, but I hope I speak for the majority of us on subjects like this. I am past SICK of Statist apologists of the status quo whose job or task in life it seems is, "NOTHING TO SEE HERE...KEEP MOVING...WE WON'T TELL YOU AGAIN." From the SAME type of person: "If you've noticed the Runaway Train that just whizzed by your nose, the one was somehow diverted onto a closed track and gone over the cliff, you are obviously too cynical or delusional a person. That fireball and plume of smoke, and unmistakable squealing of twisting steel are a mirage or figment. Well, at least until we can at least consult those who KNOW FOE SURE. "Perhaps it was a misguided Train engineer who got merely lost. BECAUSE STUFF HAPPENS. Are you SURE your imagination, common sense and logic aren't failing you? Maybe you should sit down, relax, and have a spot of tea." From these same folks I sense a creepy aura and stench of Gaslighting-On-Steroids. It's just fascist totalitarianism hiding behind a flag. OR their ideological establishment cultists. Pay no attention to a Congress that is now approximately HALF Communist. Pay NO attention to those suit in the halls of Congress (R) who are selling out America; Or removing constitutional safeguards of and for our Freedoms and Liberties, but insisting that, LESS Freedom and Liberty will make us "safer." The typical Party apparatchik has had great practice and rehearsal at "damage control" -- convincing those within his/her sphere of influence who are about to add 2+2 NOT to (because the "right" authoritah has NOT confirmed the answer of "4" yet...OR EVER.) Their task is to impede the reaching for Red Pills of Discovery and Reality at all costs; And maintain ample reasons to continue ingesting Blue Pills. Because Blue Pill make for complacent, compliant nodding in-curious drone. Ever notice how these tools endorse EVERY single bizarre unconstitutional gubmint policy? Every inexplicable event? Every warped explanation for the rampant il-logic of the Establishment Machination? NO MATTER WHAT?? It's quite the balancing act -- feigning logic, common sense, and a curiosity and demand for THE truth -- while engaging in the dismissive, distraction, diversion, discrediting, ostracizing, and demeaning the revelations of THE Truth. NOT gonna wash here. Or in many other places these days. The obnoxiously dismissive, "Oh...A 'TRUTHER'??" seem to be the BIG "SHUT DOWN" word/phrase -- coincidentally invented and weaponized by those who did NOT want the REAL Truth reveal regarding 911. The #2 use of the tactical preemptive Conversation-Ended, "OH, A TRUTHER!?!" was weaponized in order to defend 0bama from scrutiny. WHICH KINDS OF PEOPLE USE BOTH PHRASES??
Real men shoot the .308 -- the M60
The Canadian Rambo one I posted is better, eh?
C'mon, that's a fake Russian so that video is #FakeNews. You notice the damned thing is so heavy that he shot it one-handed. It must weigh 40-50 pounds. It doesn't even try to climb. Ooopsie, I was wrong. Wiki sez it is 23.15 lbs.
Better, worse, who knows? Neither one helped Lyin' Ted win the GOP nomination
misterwhite, --- Yes. Yes it is. But don't you pay them fools no never mind. Just follow their advice and "keep it up". Sarcasm about keeping it up is lost on idiots.
And on guys who don't have a problem keeping it up.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestI’ve still not seen a definitive statement about what kind of auto weapon(s) Paddock was supposedly using.
#2. To: buckeroo (#1)
He took a video of himself performing the atrocity, even to include his own suicide.
#3. To: Deckard (#0)
One shooter, dead, case closed.
#4. To: Tooconservative (#3)
One shooter, dead, case closed.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#5. To: Deckard (#4)
You're too fucking stupid to understand that there is more than one script for events like this.
#6. To: Tooconservative (#5)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#7. To: Deckard (#6)
(Edited)
#8. To: Tooconservative (#7)
Official story of Las Vegas shooting unravels; physical impossibility of lone gunman senior citizen makes narrative ludicrous
#4 Why does the gunfire in multiple online videos clearly sound like automatic weapons fire from MULTIPLE weapons?
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#9. To: Deckard (#8)
I challenge anyone to listen to the gunfire in these online videos and conclude it’s only from a single weapon.
#10. To: Deckard (#0)
That would come out to an average of one person killed or injured every 2.1 seconds.
#11. To: Deckard (#8)
Listen to the automatic weapons fire at about the 2:00 mark in the video below. It’s clearly coming from multiple weapons:
#12. To: misterwhite (#11)
On the receiving end of gunfire, you'll hear the crack of the bullet breaking the sound barrier followed by the gunshot.
#13. To: Deckard (#8)
about the 2:00 mark
#14. To: randge (#13)
Yes. Everyone I know that has heard this says "multiple weapons." If I'm not mistaken there are multiple calibers at work too.
#15. To: Deckard (#8)
#16. To: randge (#13)
" Everyone I know that has heard this says "multiple weapons." If I'm not mistaken there are multiple calibers at work too.
#17. To: Deckard (#0)
#18. To: Tooconservative (#14)
I know you guys have to be Jonesing for a fresh conspiracy.
#19. To: Liberator (#18)
Even *you* have conceded this event "makes no sense."
If true, NO cynical speculation should be considered "Jonesing."
#20. To: Tooconservative (#19)
(Edited)
I'd agree that shooting 500 peaceful civilians never makes sense, even if they are country-western fans.
#21. To: Tooconservative, y'all, liberator (#19)
#22. To: Liberator (#20)
(Edited)
The perp's GF was Indonesian (Muslim).
2) ISIS claimed responsibility. Dismissed of course by Alphabet Agys IMMEDIATELY.
3) There are reports that the perp was a Muzzie Convert. (What else is new?)
4) The Perp(s) targeting of a demo of a crowd would actually indict domestic ISIS, Muzzie Groups, Antifa or BLM -- who've ALL officially "declared war" on America, but especially certain OTHER political/racial/philosophical demos.
5) Since the MSM and a vast majority have already well established itself as the Propaganda Arm and subsidiary of both the Democrat Party as well as the Globalist Elites Inc (The actual Parent Company of both), WHY on earth should any normal sentient human being believe ANY of their bullshit?
#23. To: tpaine (#21)
On the contrary, what you both post is much appreciated, ---- keep it up...
#24. To: Stoner (#16)
(Edited)
I read elsewhere that .308 & .223
#25. To: Tooconservative, y'all (#23)
Well, I was being just a little sarcastic...
#26. To: buckeroo (#1)
He took a video of himself performing the atrocity, even to include his own suicide. There are phuckedupped people in America.
#27. To: Tooconservative, buckeroo (#26)
I'm still waiting for you to post this video of the killer during his attack.
#28. To: Tooconservative (#19)
Sometimes I think my efforts to offer creative posts goes entirely unappreciated here.
#29. To: misterwhite (#28)
Yeah. I feel the same way about my insightful, intelligent, perspicacious yet witty observations.
#30. To: hondo68 (#27)
#31. To: hondo68 (#24)
There's got to be a lot of bullets around the area from his misses, as well as the ones they dig out of the victims. Varying trajectories could prove multiple gunmen/women, in other locations.
#32. To: Tooconservative (#29)
It's tragic to be so misunderstood by small-minded and jealous people.
#33. To: Tooconservative (#30)
He looked almost as tough as Ma Feinstein with a Thompson or Bugsy Schumer with his Uzi.
#34. To: tpaine, Deckard, y'all (#21)
#35. To: Tooconservative (#30)
#36. To: Tooconservative (#30)
(Edited)
Didn't Ted have another one where he fried bacon on a machine gun barrel while shooting it as a campaign stunt?
That appears to be just a semi AR. He calls it machine gun bacon, but he never goes full auto, if it's even an option on that thing.
#37. To: misterwhite (#35)
(Edited)
Real men shoot the .308 -- the M60
#38. To: hondo68 (#36)
Yeah but the Canadian Rambo one I posted is better, eh?
against Yosemite Don, the fastest gun north, south, east, aaaand west of the Pecos.
#39. To: 'Mr Obsessed with Masturbation' (#32)
Tooconservative, Well, I was being just a little sarcastic... It's tragic to be so misunderstood by small-minded and jealous people.
#40. To: tpaine (#39)
Sarcasm about keeping it up is lost on idiots.
#41. To: tpaine (#39)
Sarcasm about keeping it up is lost on idiots.
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