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Title: Las Vegas mass shooting: more than one shooter?
Source: No More Fake News
URL Source: https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/ ... hooting-more-than-one-shooter/
Published: Oct 2, 2017
Author: Jon Rappoport
Post Date: 2017-10-03 06:51:39 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 8185
Comments: 66

This is my second report on the tragic mass murder in Las Vegas on Sunday night (first report here).

I’m looking at a Getty image of two broken windows claimed to be on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Hotel, where the shooter purportedly fired an automatic weapon(s) at concert goers. I count 10 intact windows going around a corner of the building between the two broken ones. These broken windows are from the same hotel room? That’s questionable, and worth checking. If the windows are from two adjacent rooms, it suggests the likelihood of more than one shooter.

Las Vegas police scanner audio on first call-out to the hotel records an officer emphatically saying the shots are coming from half-way up the hotel. The hotel has 43 stories. The 32nd floor is where police claim they found shooter Stephen Paddock’s dead body and his cache of weapons. Perhaps the police officer was estimating when he said “half-way up.” If not, he was seeing shots fired from lower in the hotel. That would suggest the possibility of multiple shooters on different floors.

The latest estimate: 58 dead, 515 injured. It’s expected that more dead and wounded will be reported.

Variety.com states: “…the shooting rampage that police have said lasted about four and a half minutes.”

515 wounded, 58 killed in four and a half minutes.

That would come out to an average of one person killed or injured every 2.1 seconds.

The question arises: how likely is it that one person, particularly Stephen Paddock, was the shooter, since according to his brother, Stephen was “not an avid gun guy at all…He has no military background or anything like that.”

I’ve still not seen a definitive statement about what kind of auto weapon(s) Paddock was supposedly using. One television commentator mentioned it would have been very, very expensive.

Initial reports of more than one shooter were quickly dismissed this morning.

The possibility of more than one (professional) shooter is real—and Paddock is not a candidate whose apparent lack of experience and background makes him an immediate choice…

These are questions, not conclusions, and they should remain open questions—in distinction to mainstream news, which has, as usual, gone along with blinders, taking dictation from law enforcement:

One shooter, dead, case closed.

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#3. To: Deckard (#0)

One shooter, dead, case closed.

How strange for you, Decktard, to be peddling the mainstream media narrative.

C'mon, can't you find even one account of "known crisis actors" at the Vegas massacre?

You're slipping, dude. You've sold out to The Man.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-03   8:24:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Tooconservative (#3)

One shooter, dead, case closed.

How strange for you, Decktard, to be peddling the mainstream media narrative.

Sarcasm not obvious to you?

C'mon, can't you find even one account of "known crisis actors" at the Vegas massacre?

You're too fucking stupid to understand that there is more than one script for events like this.

Deckard  posted on  2017-10-03   8:32:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Deckard (#4)

You're too fucking stupid to understand that there is more than one script for events like this.

Well, thank God we have you to explain it all to us.

Have you settled on which bullshit CT you're going to peddle to us this time?

Try to come up with something original. How about "it was space aliens"? I don't recall you using that one on a massacre story yet.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-03   8:35:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Tooconservative (#5)

Unlike you, I question the official narrative of events like this.

You're too frigging dense to do anything other than chow down on the pablum which is being spoon-fed to you by the MSM.

Deckard  posted on  2017-10-03   8:40:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Deckard (#6) (Edited)

Well, since you can't come up with a single crisis actor or decent CT, I suppose I'll have to help you out.

What to do when a rabid CT artist is down on his luck and runs out of new CT bullcrap to spread around Teh Interwebs like a venereal disease? Kinda sad really.

Here you go.

NaturalNews: MISSION IMPOSSIBLE: Official story of Las Vegas shooting unravels; physical impossibility of lone gunman senior citizen makes narrative ludicrous

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-03   8:51:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Tooconservative (#7)

Official story of Las Vegas shooting unravels; physical impossibility of lone gunman senior citizen makes narrative ludicrous

The author raises some very good points.

#4 Why does the gunfire in multiple online videos clearly sound like automatic weapons fire from MULTIPLE weapons?

I challenge anyone to listen to the gunfire in these online videos and conclude it’s only from a single weapon. The very idea is totally absurd. You can clearly hear at least two automatic weapons systems firing over each other.

Listen to the automatic weapons fire at about the 2:00 mark in the video below. It’s clearly coming from multiple weapons:

Deckard  posted on  2017-10-03   9:02:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Deckard (#8)

about the 2:00 mark

Yes. Everyone I know that has heard this says "multiple weapons." If I'm not mistaken there are multiple calibers at work too.

You don't have to be touting a CT of one kind or another to realize that once again something is screwy.

randge  posted on  2017-10-03   9:24:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: randge (#13)

Yes. Everyone I know that has heard this says "multiple weapons." If I'm not mistaken there are multiple calibers at work too.

So now the ballistic audiophiles are going to weigh in?

I guess it is at least a new variety of CT.

I know you guys have to be Jonesing for a fresh conspiracy.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-03   9:37:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Tooconservative (#14)

I know you guys have to be Jonesing for a fresh conspiracy.

Even *you* have conceded this event "makes no sense."

If true, NO cynical speculation should be considered "Jonesing."

Speaking of "Jonesing," why aren't those who seeking and begging for a "logical explanation," "JONESING" for their same ol' Unicorn shitting out rainbows??

Liberator  posted on  2017-10-03   10:40:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Liberator (#18)

Even *you* have conceded this event "makes no sense."

I'd agree that shooting 500 peaceful civilians never makes sense, even if they are country-western fans.

If true, NO cynical speculation should be considered "Jonesing."

But you have no proof so you can hardly say "if true". That's just a pretext.

And Jonesing is the perfect present participle of the verb Jones, as in to Jones, a play on words indicating seeking a fix for something addictive and a reference to Alex Jones, king of the CT tribe and notorious Truther nutjob.

Sometimes I think my efforts to offer creative posts goes entirely unappreciated here.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-03   10:56:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Tooconservative, y'all, liberator (#19)

Sometimes I think my efforts to offer creative posts goes entirely unappreciated here.

I'd welcome any refutation of any of my claims ---- Liberator

On the contrary, what you both post is much appreciated, ---- keep it up...

tpaine  posted on  2017-10-03   13:14:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: tpaine, Deckard, y'all (#21)

Thank you...

Those may read your posts but may nod in agreement. It's not a large forum as you well know.

I can only speak for myself, but I hope I speak for the majority of us on subjects like this.

I am past SICK of Statist apologists of the status quo whose job or task in life it seems is, "NOTHING TO SEE HERE...KEEP MOVING...WE WON'T TELL YOU AGAIN."

From the SAME type of person:

"If you've noticed the Runaway Train that just whizzed by your nose, the one was somehow diverted onto a closed track and gone over the cliff, you are obviously too cynical or delusional a person. That fireball and plume of smoke, and unmistakable squealing of twisting steel are a mirage or figment. Well, at least until we can at least consult those who KNOW FOE SURE.

"Perhaps it was a misguided Train engineer who got merely lost. BECAUSE STUFF HAPPENS. Are you SURE your imagination, common sense and logic aren't failing you? Maybe you should sit down, relax, and have a spot of tea."

From these same folks I sense a creepy aura and stench of Gaslighting-On-Steroids. It's just fascist totalitarianism hiding behind a flag. OR their ideological establishment cultists.

Pay no attention to a Congress that is now approximately HALF Communist. Pay NO attention to those suit in the halls of Congress (R) who are selling out America; Or removing constitutional safeguards of and for our Freedoms and Liberties, but insisting that, LESS Freedom and Liberty will make us "safer."

The typical Party apparatchik has had great practice and rehearsal at "damage control" -- convincing those within his/her sphere of influence who are about to add 2+2 NOT to (because the "right" authoritah has NOT confirmed the answer of "4" yet...OR EVER.) Their task is to impede the reaching for Red Pills of Discovery and Reality at all costs; And maintain ample reasons to continue ingesting Blue Pills. Because Blue Pill make for complacent, compliant nodding in-curious drone.

Ever notice how these tools endorse EVERY single bizarre unconstitutional gubmint policy? Every inexplicable event? Every warped explanation for the rampant il-logic of the Establishment Machination? NO MATTER WHAT??

It's quite the balancing act -- feigning logic, common sense, and a curiosity and demand for THE truth -- while engaging in the dismissive, distraction, diversion, discrediting, ostracizing, and demeaning the revelations of THE Truth. NOT gonna wash here. Or in many other places these days.

The obnoxiously dismissive, "Oh...A 'TRUTHER'??" seem to be the BIG "SHUT DOWN" word/phrase -- coincidentally invented and weaponized by those who did NOT want the REAL Truth reveal regarding 911.

The #2 use of the tactical preemptive Conversation-Ended, "OH, A TRUTHER!?!" was weaponized in order to defend 0bama from scrutiny. WHICH KINDS OF PEOPLE USE BOTH PHRASES??

Liberator  posted on  2017-10-03   15:34:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: TooConservative, aka, StatistApologist (#34)

Yes TC, I was referring to you regarding Post #34.

Yes, you with the 8x11 glossy of Henry The K on your nightstand, Keep up the good work through college and beyond! H

A glaring problem that's always been curious -- you aren't quite "TooConservative". When you assigned yourself that moniker (obviously as a joke), did stretching the definition of "conservative" into the next Solar System give you any pangs of guilt? Or did it just...cause you to snicker?

"TooConservative": -- An Statist apologist, Eraser-of-CTs, and Globalist-Elitist water-carrier. Blue-Pill Pez dispenser. An opinion spinmeister rep for every occasion. Defender of 2 + 2 = 3. (There ALWAYS seems to be a missing number/factor SOME how SOME where are far as you can see.)

Sure, some may consider you a mere Republican/Statist/Globalist Party Apparatchik, defending the system's/institution's "honor" (which have looong since devolved into Swamp Effluence.)

Ok, sure -- Let's give you the benefit of doubt even when you're obviously feigning even-handed curiosity at times; Nevermind your condescendingly understated technique and air of pomposity that the MSM MUST. BE. RESPECTED. And DC. MUST BE RESPECTED. (And the DPST and Alphabet Soup agys would NEVER hurts us. OR Donald Trump.)

Certainly we MUST defer to the Washington Post and certainly NOT Infowars. Because one is wrong at least half the time; The OTHER? Well...it's sad that even a so-called "Republican" statist MUST defer to WaPo as a source of "Truth." EVER.

Yes, you've been quite the busy little bee lately. Good to see since you've stepped it up while seemingly losing your mojo several days ago. Will you kindly let us all know when the "proper authoritahs" have ferreted out the Truth? I mean ALL of it!...

911/0bama's Birth, Newtown, San Bernadino, BLM & Antifa, Clinton & Comey, and yes, of course the NFL-BLM connection as well as the "Lone Wolf" in Vegas. But ONLY "officially," of course. Preferrably from EJ Dionne or someone "credible."

I must say -- thumbs up for some very commendable propaganda...er..spin...er...work you do here at such a little forum -- however your talent/service may well be wasted :-( If ONLY Mitch McConnell needed a forum point man to counter the Trumpettes army of malicious Tea Party remnants that keep hounding him...

Q: How many TCs can fit on the head of a NWO pin?

Liberator  posted on  2017-10-03   20:47:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Liberator (#53) (Edited)

Wolf Blitzer in the Situation Room knows all. Within two minutes the shooter was determined to be a Lone Wolf, not terrorist, average Lockheed Martin Joe accountant who snapped for no reason at all. If you don't believe me, ask TC!

/s

Hondo68  posted on  2017-10-03   22:25:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: hondo68, Liberator (#57)

Let's look at a few of the prime CT purveyors, caught here in a fairly rare exchange where they interview each other and babble on like deranged morons.

The gay neurotic of IW interviews the intrepid boy reporter from GP.

So if they fall apart so easily, just where are you guys going for your daily dose of heavy-breathing CT material?

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-04   9:15:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Tooconservative (#58)

How can you listen to that crap? I went 90 seconds. That's all I could handle.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-10-04   9:43:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: misterwhite (#60)

How can you listen to that crap? I went 90 seconds. That's all I could handle.

You missed the best parts of the Intrepid Boy Reporter's meltdown. I thought he was gonna start crying or sucking his thumb.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-04   9:49:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#64. To: Tooconservative (#62)

You missed the best parts of the Intrepid Boy Reporter's meltdown. I thought he was gonna start crying or sucking his thumb.

I'll take your word on that.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-10-04 10:18:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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