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Title: Las Vegas mass shooting: more than one shooter?
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URL Source: https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/ ... hooting-more-than-one-shooter/
Published: Oct 2, 2017
Author: Jon Rappoport
Post Date: 2017-10-03 06:51:39 by Deckard
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Views: 8030
Comments: 66
This is my second report on the tragic mass murder in Las Vegas on Sunday night (first report here). I’m looking at a Getty image of two broken windows claimed to be on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Hotel, where the shooter purportedly fired an automatic weapon(s) at concert goers. I count 10 intact windows going around a corner of the building between the two broken ones. These broken windows are from the same hotel room? That’s questionable, and worth checking. If the windows are from two adjacent rooms, it suggests the likelihood of more than one shooter. Las Vegas police scanner audio on first call-out to the hotel records an officer emphatically saying the shots are coming from half-way up the hotel. The hotel has 43 stories. The 32nd floor is where police claim they found shooter Stephen Paddock’s dead body and his cache of weapons. Perhaps the police officer was estimating when he said “half-way up.” If not, he was seeing shots fired from lower in the hotel. That would suggest the possibility of multiple shooters on different floors. The latest estimate: 58 dead, 515 injured. It’s expected that more dead and wounded will be reported. Variety.com states: “…the shooting rampage that police have said lasted about four and a half minutes.” 515 wounded, 58 killed in four and a half minutes. That would come out to an average of one person killed or injured every 2.1 seconds. The question arises: how likely is it that one person, particularly Stephen Paddock, was the shooter, since according to his brother, Stephen was “not an avid gun guy at all…He has no military background or anything like that.” I’ve still not seen a definitive statement about what kind of auto weapon(s) Paddock was supposedly using. One television commentator mentioned it would have been very, very expensive. Initial reports of more than one shooter were quickly dismissed this morning. The possibility of more than one (professional) shooter is real—and Paddock is not a candidate whose apparent lack of experience and background makes him an immediate choice… These are questions, not conclusions, and they should remain open questions—in distinction to mainstream news, which has, as usual, gone along with blinders, taking dictation from law enforcement: One shooter, dead, case closed.
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#19. To: Liberator (#18)
I'd agree that shooting 500 peaceful civilians never makes sense, even if they are country-western fans. But you have no proof so you can hardly say "if true". That's just a pretext. And Jonesing is the perfect present participle of the verb Jones, as in to Jones, a play on words indicating seeking a fix for something addictive and a reference to Alex Jones, king of the CT tribe and notorious Truther nutjob. Sometimes I think my efforts to offer creative posts goes entirely unappreciated here.
Uh, NOT THE context nor premise and you know it. Why must you play these games?? And Jonesing is the perfect present participle of the verb Jones, as in to Jones, a play on words indicating seeking a fix for something addictive and a reference to Alex Jones, king of the CT tribe and notorious Truther nutjob. Yes, I get the whole play on words, as well as the original intent of definition. +1 for Cuteness. -100 for your usual condescending "CT" bullshit. With respect to this particular "incident," it would take child-like naivete or utter stupidity to believe THIS one guy acted alone as a "Lone Wolf"; was NOT part of a mega-organized effort; AND to believe in ones heart of hearts that NO Alphabet Agy (who we are assured monitor ANY suspicious characters down to the last keystroke and "Buh-bye" of a phone call) DID NOT KNOW this operation was going down. Other factors to consider: 1) The perp's GF was Indonesian (Muslim). She has now "disappeared." Much like the Miami Gay Club GF....Or wife in the San Bernadino slaughter. OR, the GF/Wives of ANY of these slaughters. 1A (See a pattern here?? HINT: Alphabet Agys and LE have established an incredibly bizarre policy of NON-pursuit of accomplices. One can even make the case that they stood down as the perp continued his slaughter. These observations are NEVER questioned by the same media who have rummaged through Sarah Palin's garbage, but still YOU seem to believe are MORE legit a source of "news" than Alex Jones.) 2) ISIS claimed responsibility. Dismissed of course by Alphabet Agys IMMEDIATELY. 3) There are reports that the perp was a Muzzie Convert. (What else is new?) 4) The Perp(s) targeting of a demo of a crowd would actually indict domestic ISIS, Muzzie Groups, Antifa or BLM -- who've ALL officially "declared war" on America, but especially certain OTHER political/racial/philosophical demos. 5) Since the MSM and a vast majority have already well established itself as the Propaganda Arm and subsidiary of both the Democrat Party as well as the Globalist Elites Inc (The actual Parent Company of both), WHY on earth should any normal sentient human being believe ANY of their bullshit? We even just learned that a CBS VP get fired for celebrating the slaughter of 600 people -- because they were "country music fans. aka "Republicans." PERIOD. Btw -- Alex Jones possesses more cred in his left ball than the MSM possesses. Even if right half the time. That makes him and his sources FAR more apt to expose THE truth of any given matter. Yes, by all means do go on lapping up the misdirection of FOX/CNN/NBC/NYT/WaPo "news" as gospel. Even though they constantly and shamelessly represent skewed news and lies, slanted 180 degrees LEFT. FACT: YOUR hallowed "news" sources are LEFTIST/GLOBALIST talking heads, scripted to lie via omission, misdirection, diversion, masking, and innuendo. You say nothing of THEIR historical collusion to repeat EXACTLY what the other network report, nearly verbatim. (Forgotten "Journ-O-Listers" already?) I'd call this kind of Network so-called "reporting" -- one which collectively publicly endorses and supports the VERY SAME common-collective agenda -- the REAL "Vast Conspiracy." It's not even a "conspiracy" if it's been proven. And it HAS. I'd welcome any refutation of any of my claims.
Sometimes I think my efforts to offer creative posts goes entirely unappreciated here. I'd welcome any refutation of any of my claims ---- Liberator On the contrary, what you both post is much appreciated, ---- keep it up...
Sorry to let facts stand in the way of your developing CT but she was a Filipino with Aussie citizenship. She was in the Philippines visiting family at the time and is supposedly returning to America on her own to answer any questions they have. The Philippines is 92% Christian, 5.5% Muslim and a smattering other religions. Try again. ISIS has made two claims of attacks in the last six months in which they were not involved. Prior to that, their claims of ISIS terror attacks were supported by the facts but no longer. They are desperate to remain relevant as they are killed off in Syria/Iraq. They're finished there and their only hope to have any impact is to inspire attacks in the West even if they have to lie about it. The only "report" is the claim by ISIS. No facts support it. So he's a Muslim terr'ist unless he's a commie or a white Black Power guy. Or maybe he's a Muslim commie Black Power white supremacist. Maybe he's just mad that the NFL playas won't stand for the anthem. Or maybe you can make something else up when those all fall through. But you and Alex Jones, you're the ones with real credibility? LOL
Well, I was being just a little sarcastic... : )
There's got to be a lot of bullets around the area from his misses, as well as the ones they dig out of the victims. Varying trajectories could prove multiple gunmen/women, in other locations. The government and MSM won't be able to cover up them all. Could be some 7.62 X 39 commie AK-47 ones too.
Hey. I even appreciate comments from idiots like misterwhite...
I'm still waiting for you to post this video of the killer during his attack. It should be easy to find since it is the top story everywhere.
Yeah. I feel the same way about my insightful, intelligent, perspicacious yet witty observations.
It's tragic to be so misunderstood by small-minded and jealous people.
At least Ted was firing a real machine gun. He looked almost as tough as Ma Feinstein with a Thompson or Bugsy Schumer with his Uzi. Didn't Ted have another one where he fried bacon on a machine gun barrel while shooting it as a campaign stunt?
Should be easy enough to match the bullets to the recovered weapons. If a number of intact bullets don't match, that could mean more than one shooter.
Yes. Yes it is. But don't you pay them fools no never mind. Just follow their advice and "keep it up".
Yeah. Or Dukakis in his tank. (By the way, there's no such thing as an M29. Cruz was shooting the M249 SAW (Squad Automatic Weapon). As though he thought it was going to bite him.
Thank you... Those may read your posts but may nod in agreement. It's not a large forum as you well know. I can only speak for myself, but I hope I speak for the majority of us on subjects like this. I am past SICK of Statist apologists of the status quo whose job or task in life it seems is, "NOTHING TO SEE HERE...KEEP MOVING...WE WON'T TELL YOU AGAIN." From the SAME type of person: "If you've noticed the Runaway Train that just whizzed by your nose, the one was somehow diverted onto a closed track and gone over the cliff, you are obviously too cynical or delusional a person. That fireball and plume of smoke, and unmistakable squealing of twisting steel are a mirage or figment. Well, at least until we can at least consult those who KNOW FOE SURE. "Perhaps it was a misguided Train engineer who got merely lost. BECAUSE STUFF HAPPENS. Are you SURE your imagination, common sense and logic aren't failing you? Maybe you should sit down, relax, and have a spot of tea." From these same folks I sense a creepy aura and stench of Gaslighting-On-Steroids. It's just fascist totalitarianism hiding behind a flag. OR their ideological establishment cultists. Pay no attention to a Congress that is now approximately HALF Communist. Pay NO attention to those suit in the halls of Congress (R) who are selling out America; Or removing constitutional safeguards of and for our Freedoms and Liberties, but insisting that, LESS Freedom and Liberty will make us "safer." The typical Party apparatchik has had great practice and rehearsal at "damage control" -- convincing those within his/her sphere of influence who are about to add 2+2 NOT to (because the "right" authoritah has NOT confirmed the answer of "4" yet...OR EVER.) Their task is to impede the reaching for Red Pills of Discovery and Reality at all costs; And maintain ample reasons to continue ingesting Blue Pills. Because Blue Pill make for complacent, compliant nodding in-curious drone. Ever notice how these tools endorse EVERY single bizarre unconstitutional gubmint policy? Every inexplicable event? Every warped explanation for the rampant il-logic of the Establishment Machination? NO MATTER WHAT?? It's quite the balancing act -- feigning logic, common sense, and a curiosity and demand for THE truth -- while engaging in the dismissive, distraction, diversion, discrediting, ostracizing, and demeaning the revelations of THE Truth. NOT gonna wash here. Or in many other places these days. The obnoxiously dismissive, "Oh...A 'TRUTHER'??" seem to be the BIG "SHUT DOWN" word/phrase -- coincidentally invented and weaponized by those who did NOT want the REAL Truth reveal regarding 911. The #2 use of the tactical preemptive Conversation-Ended, "OH, A TRUTHER!?!" was weaponized in order to defend 0bama from scrutiny. WHICH KINDS OF PEOPLE USE BOTH PHRASES??
Real men shoot the .308 -- the M60
The Canadian Rambo one I posted is better, eh?
C'mon, that's a fake Russian so that video is #FakeNews. You notice the damned thing is so heavy that he shot it one-handed. It must weigh 40-50 pounds. It doesn't even try to climb. Ooopsie, I was wrong. Wiki sez it is 23.15 lbs.
Better, worse, who knows? Neither one helped Lyin' Ted win the GOP nomination
misterwhite, --- Yes. Yes it is. But don't you pay them fools no never mind. Just follow their advice and "keep it up". Sarcasm about keeping it up is lost on idiots.
And on guys who don't have a problem keeping it up.
Sarcasm about keeping it up is lost on idiots. Gotta love it when a post about his ding-a-ling is posted by a willy.
Since the equipment was impounded by the FBI for their evaluation and later release, what do you want me to do? Give Jimmy Comey a call and tell him to get a move on? It is a hush, hush super-duper secret.
I see some reporting now that there is a video of him shooting, no mention that it showed his suicide. There's also a photo of a table that may hold a suicide note.
It is great to understand that you are looking for data about this tragic event. Why would anyone film their own atrocity perpetrated on innocent people?
Why would anyone shoot 500 people as a prelude to suicide? We may never know. Some people are just quietly evil or become deranged over time.
Based on "leaked" evidence, there were no traces of Muslim influence ... so I disregard any ISIS influence. This guy was a loser in life. Who the phuck sits around gambling halls for weeks on end, much less a few hours, without losing their shirts? Not this loser playing BIGSHOT; he was a complete asshole.
Paddock, possible suicide note
He did look a lot better in his pussy hat.
Well, he certainly liked gambling. Like he was addicted to it.
Weird mutherphucker, huh? Who the phuck does that? An Insane phucker who lied to himself, family and society.
All the articles keep saying it just gets stranger the more they discover. If he'd gambled away his wealth and, being a Shitlery supporter, decided to take 50 likely Republicans with him, that might explain it. But he did a dry run on that September 1 concert venue as well, not country music. We may never know.
Yes TC, I was referring to you regarding Post #34. Yes, you with the 8x11 glossy of Henry The K on your nightstand, Keep up the good work through college and beyond! H A glaring problem that's always been curious -- you aren't quite "TooConservative". When you assigned yourself that moniker (obviously as a joke), did stretching the definition of "conservative" into the next Solar System give you any pangs of guilt? Or did it just...cause you to snicker? "TooConservative": -- An Statist apologist, Eraser-of-CTs, and Globalist-Elitist water-carrier. Blue-Pill Pez dispenser. An opinion spinmeister rep for every occasion. Defender of 2 + 2 = 3. (There ALWAYS seems to be a missing number/factor SOME how SOME where are far as you can see.) Sure, some may consider you a mere Republican/Statist/Globalist Party Apparatchik, defending the system's/institution's "honor" (which have looong since devolved into Swamp Effluence.) Ok, sure -- Let's give you the benefit of doubt even when you're obviously feigning even-handed curiosity at times; Nevermind your condescendingly understated technique and air of pomposity that the MSM MUST. BE. RESPECTED. And DC. MUST BE RESPECTED. (And the DPST and Alphabet Soup agys would NEVER hurts us. OR Donald Trump.) Certainly we MUST defer to the Washington Post and certainly NOT Infowars. Because one is wrong at least half the time; The OTHER? Well...it's sad that even a so-called "Republican" statist MUST defer to WaPo as a source of "Truth." EVER. Yes, you've been quite the busy little bee lately. Good to see since you've stepped it up while seemingly losing your mojo several days ago. Will you kindly let us all know when the "proper authoritahs" have ferreted out the Truth? I mean ALL of it!... 911/0bama's Birth, Newtown, San Bernadino, BLM & Antifa, Clinton & Comey, and yes, of course the NFL-BLM connection as well as the "Lone Wolf" in Vegas. But ONLY "officially," of course. Preferrably from EJ Dionne or someone "credible." I must say -- thumbs up for some very commendable propaganda...er..spin...er...work you do here at such a little forum -- however your talent/service may well be wasted :-( If ONLY Mitch McConnell needed a forum point man to counter the Trumpettes army of malicious Tea Party remnants that keep hounding him... Q: How many TCs can fit on the head of a NWO pin?
You're waaaay behind the curve as usual. That's what happens when your primary source of "news" is Yahoo and WaPo.
You were? I hadn't noticed. LF is generally the opinion leader of the entire news industry. So we concentrate on blocking all the kook stories right here, before they hit Drudge or Jones' InfoWars.
You haven't produced any reporting to substantiate that. And what is your primary source? A bong and a few jumbo malt liquor bottles? Complain all you like but let's see you produce anything evidence-based from any reporter or organization with any credibility based on past performance.
Wolf Blitzer in the Situation Room knows all. Within two minutes the shooter was determined to be a Lone Wolf, not terrorist, average Lockheed Martin Joe accountant who snapped for no reason at all. If you don't believe me, ask TC! /s
Let's look at a few of the prime CT purveyors, caught here in a fairly rare exchange where they interview each other and babble on like deranged morons. The gay neurotic of IW interviews the intrepid boy reporter from GP. So if they fall apart so easily, just where are you guys going for your daily dose of heavy-breathing CT material?
Nah. He's a real Russian with a fake accent. His real voice is like Barney Fife.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Even *you* have conceded this event "makes no sense."
If true, NO cynical speculation should be considered "Jonesing."
#20. To: Tooconservative (#19)
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I'd agree that shooting 500 peaceful civilians never makes sense, even if they are country-western fans.
#21. To: Tooconservative, y'all, liberator (#19)
#22. To: Liberator (#20)
(Edited)
The perp's GF was Indonesian (Muslim).
2) ISIS claimed responsibility. Dismissed of course by Alphabet Agys IMMEDIATELY.
3) There are reports that the perp was a Muzzie Convert. (What else is new?)
4) The Perp(s) targeting of a demo of a crowd would actually indict domestic ISIS, Muzzie Groups, Antifa or BLM -- who've ALL officially "declared war" on America, but especially certain OTHER political/racial/philosophical demos.
5) Since the MSM and a vast majority have already well established itself as the Propaganda Arm and subsidiary of both the Democrat Party as well as the Globalist Elites Inc (The actual Parent Company of both), WHY on earth should any normal sentient human being believe ANY of their bullshit?
#23. To: tpaine (#21)
On the contrary, what you both post is much appreciated, ---- keep it up...
#24. To: Stoner (#16)
(Edited)
I read elsewhere that .308 & .223
#25. To: Tooconservative, y'all (#23)
Well, I was being just a little sarcastic...
#26. To: buckeroo (#1)
He took a video of himself performing the atrocity, even to include his own suicide. There are phuckedupped people in America.
#27. To: Tooconservative, buckeroo (#26)
I'm still waiting for you to post this video of the killer during his attack.
#28. To: Tooconservative (#19)
Sometimes I think my efforts to offer creative posts goes entirely unappreciated here.
#29. To: misterwhite (#28)
Yeah. I feel the same way about my insightful, intelligent, perspicacious yet witty observations.
#30. To: hondo68 (#27)
#31. To: hondo68 (#24)
There's got to be a lot of bullets around the area from his misses, as well as the ones they dig out of the victims. Varying trajectories could prove multiple gunmen/women, in other locations.
#32. To: Tooconservative (#29)
It's tragic to be so misunderstood by small-minded and jealous people.
#33. To: Tooconservative (#30)
He looked almost as tough as Ma Feinstein with a Thompson or Bugsy Schumer with his Uzi.
#34. To: tpaine, Deckard, y'all (#21)
#35. To: Tooconservative (#30)
#36. To: Tooconservative (#30)
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Didn't Ted have another one where he fried bacon on a machine gun barrel while shooting it as a campaign stunt?
That appears to be just a semi AR. He calls it machine gun bacon, but he never goes full auto, if it's even an option on that thing.
#37. To: misterwhite (#35)
(Edited)
Real men shoot the .308 -- the M60
#38. To: hondo68 (#36)
Yeah but the Canadian Rambo one I posted is better, eh?
against Yosemite Don, the fastest gun north, south, east, aaaand west of the Pecos.
#39. To: 'Mr Obsessed with Masturbation' (#32)
Tooconservative, Well, I was being just a little sarcastic... It's tragic to be so misunderstood by small-minded and jealous people.
#40. To: tpaine (#39)
Sarcasm about keeping it up is lost on idiots.
#41. To: tpaine (#39)
Sarcasm about keeping it up is lost on idiots.
#42. To: Willie Green (#40)
#43. To: Tooconservative (#26)
I'm still waiting for you to post this video of the killer during his attack.
It should be easy to find since it is the top story everywhere.
#44. To: buckeroo (#1)
He took a video of himself performing the atrocity, even to include his own suicide.
#45. To: Tooconservative (#44)
#46. To: buckeroo (#45)
(Edited)
Why would anyone film their own atrocity perpetrated on innocent people?
#47. To: Tooconservative (#46)
#48. To: Tooconservative, buckeroo (#46)
(Edited)
Vegas Shooter Filmed Himself During Slaughter, May Have Left A Note; Suicide Photo Emerges
#49. To: hondo68 (#48)
#50. To: buckeroo (#47)
#51. To: Tooconservative (#50)
#52. To: buckeroo (#51)
#53. To: TooConservative, aka, StatistApologist (#34)
#54. To: Tooconservative (#22)
#55. To: Liberator (#53)
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Yes TC, I was referring to you regarding Post #34.
I must say -- thumbs up for some very commendable propaganda...er..spin...er...work you do here at such a little forum...
#56. To: Liberator (#54)
You're waaaay behind the curve as usual. That's what happens when your primary source of "news" is Yahoo and WaPo.
#57. To: Liberator (#53)
(Edited)
#58. To: hondo68, Liberator (#57)
#59. To: Tooconservative (#37)
C'mon, that's a fake Russian so that video is #FakeNews.
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