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Title: LibertysFlame is now an Encrypted Web Site
Source: Let's Encrypt
URL Source: http://letsencrypt.org
Published: Oct 1, 2017
Author: Me
Post Date: 2017-10-01 10:45:21 by Pinguinite
Keywords: None
Views: 595
Comments: 9

Libertysflame.com is now an encrypted web site.

This was made possible by letsencrypt.org, a free certificate authority from the Linux Foundation.

With this encryption, all communication between the web site and you should be encrypted. While normal articles and comments obviously continue to be available to the whole world as they are freely available to all visitors, passwords entered at login time and private mail should now be encrypted and secure from all systems that the data passes through between your web browser and the server.

This is an excellent step toward encrypting everything on the net, which I am a strong advocate for. LetsEncypt.org has a very easy to use setup system that makes the process very easy for system administrators of any linux driven site. (I'm impressed).

Be advised this step does NOT prevent the system administrator (me) from accessing private mail on the libertysflame server, which is something I could do if I really wanted to, but have never done in the 15 years since I've created the system. Private mail is encoded in a simple fashion to make incidental reading of it virtually impossible, so it would take effort to decode that information but it could be done if I really wanted to do it, which I don't, even for people that may not like me (because I would be embarrassed to myself to actually expend the time & effort to find out such things. I figure if someone doesn't like me, I don't care what they think of me, and if they do like me, they'll tell me what they want me to know).

Also be advised that the site owner, or anyone having admin access to the site, may still access private information of users but only by changing a user's password, which the user would certainly discover when they attempt to log in.

But back to the point, LF is now an encrypted site. Any inclined to do so may change their passwords on the setup page to ensure it is private, as passwords used before now have been transferred between server and you unencrypted and potentially available to both official and unofficial spy agencies.

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#1. To: Pinguinite, A K A Stone (#0)

Interesting. I know you have had this in mind for some time. You're right that it is overdue since this will prevent a number of possible well-known attack vectors against the server.

I don't suppose you could persuade Stone to stop allowing every search engine and spider from ransacking and recording every last post we make here. They get permission from the robots.txt file on the server. Currently it remains empty meaning that any search engine has permission to permanently datamine every last thing we post here. Our handles, our comments, the articles we respond to, all of it available to put in some database to be mined for years or decades into the future.

LF: robots.txt

How about just restricting it to allowing the search engines and spiders to see the Articles only?

By comparison, we can look at the same file over at 4um and see that they do restrict the permission of search engines and spiders to scan and mine their content.

User-agent: *
Disallow: /cgi-bin/latestcomments.cgi
Disallow: /cgi-bin/latestarticles.cgi
Disallow: /cgi-bin/readart.cgi

In plain words, it says that all search engines are allowed (first line) but that they cannot indext the Latest Comments page, the Latest Articles page, and they cannot do any reading and scanning of articles (the readart.cgi line).

Stone has allowed these search engines to datamine us all for years now, all in the hope that he might attract some new users. Well, it hasn't worked. We're the same old crew we've been since the days of LP.

If Stone wants to have a search engine that can help us locate old posts or old articles here, he could enable just one search engine to index the site. A privacy-oriented search like DuckDuckGo would be a good choice.

Restricting these search engines would also reduce bandwidth and CPU load on the server, although this would be somewhat marginal. It is clear that search engines like Google do spider and ransack this site about once an hour. That's about how long it takes for our posts and articles here at LF to show up in their search engine.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-10-01   11:28:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#3. To: Tooconservative (#1)

Yes, it is interesting. It was very easy to do. The setup programs took care of everything. I didn't have to make any apache modifications myself.

We've discussed this before. It's Stone's decision, but there are 2 things I'd respond with:

1) Having the articles and comments added to the search engine could help bring in new people.

2) The Robots file is only advisory in nature. It does not forcibly prohibit or restrict access to the site by search engines. They are as free to visit the site as much as any human is able to, and mine whatever it finds regardless of what is put into the robots file. Normally, yes, they would abide by it as it's the convention, but any company or organization that has any motive at all to ignore the robots file can do so at their whim. In fact, paying attention to the robots file requires a little MORE effort in the spider programming than does simply ignoring it.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-10-01 11:43:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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