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Title: Spain's Catalonia is voting on independence on Sunday
Source: BusinessInsider
URL Source: http://www.businessinsider.com/spai ... dependence-vote-preview-2017-9
Published: Sep 29, 2017
Author: staff
Post Date: 2017-09-29 23:08:25 by buckeroo
Keywords: None
Views: 352
Comments: 9

Catalonia, a region in Spain that includes Barcelona, plans to vote on independence this Sunday in a referendum that has been declared illegal by Spanish authorities.

The question over the referendum has turned into one of Spain's "biggest political challenges" since the country returned to democracy after the death of dictator General Francisco Franco in 1975.

The Spanish government has recently taken a strong stance against the referendum by raiding offices, shutting down pro-independence websites, and arresting officials. The pro-independence movement in Catalonia, meanwhile, insists the vote will continue as planned this weekend.

Catalonia, which has its own language and culture, is one of Spain's economic powerhouses. It contributes nearly one-fifth of the country's total GDP, and has an economy larger than that of Portugal.

About half of the residents in Catalonia support leaving Spain, according to opinion polls cited by the New York Times, which reports that the movement gained speed after the pro-independence government won the majority in the regional parliament back in 2015.

There has reportedly been a "widespread" belief in Spain, especially on the political right, that the government has been too lenient about Catalonia's inching towards independence in recent years. Others argue that the recent crackdown has only helped to further unite the pro-independence groups in Catalonia.

Even if the government manages to stop the vote, the simmering tensions could pose a challenge for the administration going forward, analysts say. "We continue to think the vote is unlikely to lead to Catalonia's exit from Spain (Catalexit), and that snap regional elections will follow," a Citi Research team led by Antonio Montilla said in a note to clients earlier this week. "We stress, however, that the risk of even larger confrontations between the sides post-referendum is rising."

Tensions rising between Madrid and pro-independence movement Tensions between the regional Catalan pro-independence government and the central government in Madrid have escalated significantly in recent weeks. And the government of Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy, who was described earlier this year as "famously cautious," recently made "unprecedented efforts" to halt the referendum.

Last week, Spanish police raided three regional government offices in Catalonia and arrested 12 senior officials. Catalonian officials said Spain's Guardia Civil, or paramilitary national police, searched several government departments, including the offices of the presidency, economic affairs, and foreign relations, on Wednesday morning.

Madrid also shut down websites and advertising campaigns promoting the vote, sent thousands of police officers from outside of the region, and raided the offices of the companies that would print the paper ballots, according to the New York Times.

The Spanish government has taken control of Catalonia's essential public spending, a move that might suggest Madrid is taking a step forward to clamping down on the region's fiscal autonomy, Montilla argued.

US President Donald Trump said earlier this week that "Spain is a great country, and it should remain united," while State Department spokesperson Heather Nauert said earlier this month that the US has no position on the referendum. Tensions go back decades, but taxes appear to be a recent sore spot Tensions between Catalonia and Spain go back decades. According to Bloomberg, the region's push for autonomy was a factor in the Spanish Civil War; afterwards the Franco regime cracked down on the language, on Catalan institutions, and on the people themselves.

After the dictator's death, the Spanish constitution of 1978, which says the nation is "indivisible," gave Catalonia language rights and control over its healthcare and education.

Recently, nationalists in Catalonia have pointed to the region's language and culture, and have argued that it subsidizes the rest of Spain in an unfair redistribution of tax revenues. The region pays about €10 billion ($11.8 billion) more in taxes than it gets back, according to data from the Spanish Treasury, as cited by Reuters. By comparison, Andalusia, the poorest region, gets almost €8 billion ($9.4 billion) more than it pays. "One key explanation for the rise in independence supporters in the past few years is tax. Madrid has refused to allocate more funds to Catalonia after the financial crisis," according to HSBC research analysts Ioannis Sokos and Anne Karina Asbjorn."Since 2011, support in favour of independence has risen from around 30% to 50%."

Catalonia held an independence referendum back in 2014, but the Spanish government did not intervene in that case, despite the constitutional court's order to stop it.

"[N]ow the situation is different. In 2014, the tensions between Madrid and Barcelona had not escalated to the current levels," Fabio Balboni, European economist at HSBC, said in a note to clients last Thursday.

"There was not a government elected on a pro-indepedence platform, and no threat to proceed unilaterally after a 'yes' vote. There was also no intervention by the civil guard to seize the ballots, even though the Constitutional Court had also deemed the referendum illegal then," he added. "In our view, the chances of a similar outcome to 2014 are low."

Back then, the majority voted in favor (80.7%), but turnout was relatively low (37%), according to data from HSBC. 

Catalan President Carles Puigdemont suggested that if the "yes" vote wins, the government's pro-indepedence government might declare indepedence within days. Should that happen, some have argued there's a chance the Spanish government can choose to invoke Article 155, which allows the Spanish government to intervene directly in autonomous regions like Catalonia, according to the FT. It has never been invoked.

As HSBC's Balboni explained: "If Catalonia goes ahead with the referendum, and afterwards declares indepedence, unilaterally — on a low turnout, 'yes' is more likely to win — passing a new constitution, and possibly establishing regional Ministries and even armed forces, Madrid will probably trigger Article 155, and tensions are likely to escalate rapidly. In turn, this could affect negatively consumer and investor confidence, harming the economy [...] and leading to broader political and economic consequences that are hard to predict at this stage." Also notably, if Catalonia were to leave, it would have to reapply for EU membership, which Spain can block. 


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#1. To: buckeroo (#0)

From Drudge tonight:

WEEKEND: Catalonia Braces for Independence Vote...

MILLIONS of ballots seized...

Separatists Defiant...

Stalemate keeps Spain in suspense...

Farmers roll into Barcelona on tractors...

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-30   0:18:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Tooconservative (#1)

Looks like a revolution is brewing.

buckeroo  posted on  2017-09-30   0:49:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: buckeroo (#2)

I think Spain will stop this election by seizing ballots and other means.

I doubt they had enough votes to pass it anyway. And it is only a referendum, not legally binding. A situation very different from the legal Scottish vote on seceding from Great Britain a few years back.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-30   6:57:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: buckeroo (#0)

The Basques are watching what happens in Catalonia.

These regions - Cataluna and Euskal Herria - between the two of them, are Spain's most dynamic, and were the worst treated during Franco's long dictatorship because of their distinct and ancient culture. Picasso's paintings of the war on the Basque country captured the suffering forever, and act as a permanent memorial of what came from Madrid.

With the ceasefire and disarmament of ETA, and the devolution of considerable power to the Basque Parliament, the Basques had agreed to settle down to a federal solution with local autonomy under the national flag, a bit like Ulster, but that was a compromise - the Basques didn't start the fight with Madrid in the first place: Franco attacked them because they were different.

But if nextdoor Catalunia goes, the Basques will wake up and want to go also. And if Madrid tries to crush Catalunian independece by force, the Basques will side with the Catalunians and stand back up - and that will probably be the end of Spain.

So Madrid has a fine line to walk here. They managed to walk it with the Basques and find a political solution when no military solution was possible. But the Catalans never resorted to terrorism on a wide scale the way the Basques did, so Madrid has less justification for any use of force. The Catalans have been much more overt about reaching directly for independence, though.

Madrid has to be patient and diplomatic to keep the country together. Whatever the result this weekend, Cataluna will not be leaving Spain any time soon. Whether the Catalans vote to go or not, though, a political solution will have to be found that devolves more power to the region. Spain can hold together by the same solution the British found with the Scottish Parliament and Northern Irish home rule. It seems to have worked there well enough. It should work in Spain too - reasonably. It has worked with the Basques.

But there is a difference in national character. The Scots and Northern Irish are poorer than the English - they get resources FROM the capital. Cataluna and Herria Euskal are both richer than the Spanish average, so funds flow out of them to the rest of Spain.

The Basques are just different, and have always been content to fish and herd sheep and engage in shipping and banking. They provided France and eventually Spain with a royal family (Henri IV, the first Bourbon king, was from Navarre, in the heart of the Basque country). They're settled, agreeable people who have never been especially restive. Franco riled them up by attacking them.

But the Catalans - THEY are Spanish hotheads. They may actually value "la independencia" in its own right, with dreams in which separate nationalism is the prize.

It's interesting.

Prediction: Spain will cede more power to Cataluna over time whether the Catalans manage to pull off their referendum or not. That worked with the Basque. Whether it will work with the Catalans or not is a matter of prickly Spanish pride. They probably can be bought off. I think Spain learned from the Basque experience that a gentler touch works. If they pull out the batons and try to beat Cataluna into submission, they will ignite a forest fire the brings the Basques back in and Spain will fall apart.

Madrid knows that, so it will act with restraint. The Catalan reaction probably won't LOOK like restraint. They'll be howling and bellyaching with full-on Spanish drama. But this is what is called "negotiation". I predict peace in the end, and that Spain won't fall apart any more than Britain did. The Basques were more different from the rest of Spain than the Catalans. And they stayed. Cataluna will stay in the end. It's just a matter of giving them enough to settle down.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-09-30   7:58:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Vicomte13 (#4) (Edited)

If nextdoor Catalunia goes, the Basques will wake up and want to go also.

And if Madrid tries to crush Catalunian independece by force, the Basques will side with the Catalunians and stand back up - and that will probably be the end of Spain.

Do you believe the EU will allow this provincial mutiny on the heels of BREXIT?

My projection: An exchange of moola or cup o' "Offer-You-Can't-Refuse" will be made to leaders of the separatist movement and Catalunia will remain Spaniard.

However, IF somehow the Catalans defy the EU Establishment and secede, it may indeed start a provincial secession across ALL of Europe -- especially the ones most affected by the EU's insanely coercive "Hey, Let's Commit Jihadicide!" policy.

Conversely (as I ponder the flip side of the coin), the EU-Globalist political tacticians may allow it, then isolate, boycott, and/or oppress/punish Catalunia as a cautionary example of the "price to pay" for embarrassing their Masters. (They are trying to intimidate and punish the Brits on a much larger scale, but the EU actually needs a cooperative GB.)

Liberator  posted on  2017-09-30   11:19:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Vicomte13 (#4) (Edited)

Prediction:

Spain will cede more power to Cataluna over time whether the Catalans manage to pull off their referendum or not. That worked with the Basque.

Whether it will work with the Catalans or not is a matter of prickly Spanish pride. They probably can be bought off. I think Spain learned from the Basque experience that a gentler touch works. If they pull out the batons and try to beat Cataluna into submission, they will ignite a forest fire the brings the Basques back in and Spain will fall apart.

Interesting...

Liberator  posted on  2017-09-30   11:21:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Liberator (#6)

If they pull out the batons and try to beat Cataluna into submission, they will ignite a forest fire that brings the Basques back in and Spain will fall apart.

But I think Madrid knows that, so they will exercise restraint. They'll seize ballots and there will be police playing a cat-and-mouse game, but I dont' think anybody will get shot, or killed, or that anything more than a few tires will get burnt.

Then everybody will scream at each other for awhile, while negotiators down inside the governments hammer out a deal whereby the Catalans will have greater power derived to their regional parliament, they'll have their own language schools and cultural recognition, and they'll all continue to be "Spanish".

Cataluña will keep more money at home than sending it to Madrid.

In American terms, this is one of those moments were federalism and block grants to the states reduces pressure on the federal center. Essentially the same dynamic at work here.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-09-30   11:48:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: All (#7)

The government resorted to force, albeit non-lethal force. In so doing, they probably ticked up the desire for independence by 5%.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-10-01   9:10:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: All (#8)

The government use a LOT of force. Long term, this will only galvanize opposition.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-10-01   20:56:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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