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New Discovery! 2023 Hottest in over 120 Million Years 2024 and beyond in prophecy Questions This Speech Just Broke the Internet Status: Not Logged In; Sign In Humor See other Humor Articles Title: Trump Says He’ll Work With Democrats on Health Care Source: WSJ URL Source: https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump- ... rats-on-health-care-1506538819 Published: Sep 28, 2017 Author: Kristina Peterson Michelle Hackman Post Date: 2017-09-28 07:28:22 by Jameson Keywords: Medicare for All Views: 1305 Comments: 30 Trump Says He’ll Work With Democrats on Health Care President plans an executive order on insurance ‘across state lines’ Here it is - This will begin the move toward "Medicare for All" Comrade 45 lies a lot, but he did promise Universal Health Care... "...When he was a presidential candidate in 2015, Trump told CBS's Scott Pelley on 60 Minutes that "everybody's got to be covered." He conceded that it may be an "un-Republican" thing to say, but he wanted to ensure that everyone had quality health care..." Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 21. #5. To: Jameson (#0) "...When he was a presidential candidate in 2015, Trump told CBS's Scott Pelley on 60 Minutes that "everybody's got to be covered." He conceded that it may be an "un-Republican" thing to say, but he wanted to ensure that everyone had quality health care..." Everybody's got to be covered ... how? Why do you assume, "... by the federal government"? There's no need to turn the entire health care system upside down to address the needs of the 10% who are uninsured. And how many of those uninsured want to pay for health insurance? misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-28   10:44:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #6. To: misterwhite (#5) Everybody's got to be covered ... how? Yes, everyone must be covered. How? A little less than half of the entire population is already covered by a plan that is paid for by tax dollars. (Federal, State, County, Municipal, military, Medicare and Medicaid.) The other half (all of us working people) are already paying for the other half and ourselves! Simply enroll everyone in Medicare and stop paying for private insurance. Any person of normal intelligence can understand that the cost would be far lower without including the overhead and profits of the insurance industry and big Pharma. Why the Federal Government? Because medical care for profit has been a gigantic failure. Healthcare is an imperfect market. It does not behave according to free- market models. Americans access healthcare when necessary - not because they wish to. There's no need to turn the entire health care system upside down to address the needs of the 10% who are uninsured. It's not the 10% uninsured - It is the 48% who are already paying for 90% Jameson  posted on  2017-09-28   11:16:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #9. To: Jameson (#6) How? A little less than half of the entire population is already covered by a plan that is paid for by tax dollars. (Federal, State, County, Municipal, military, Medicare and Medicaid.) Not true. According to http://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/ total-population 49% Employer 7% Private (non-group) insurance 19% Medicaid 14% Medicare 2% VA 9% Uninsured Medicare is paid for with payroll deductions plus private insurance. That leaves Medicaid and VA which is 21% paid for by tax dollars. misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-28   12:21:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #11. To: misterwhite (#9) Medicare is paid for with payroll deductions Good try, these payroll deductions area tax. You also must take into consideration all the State, County, and municipal employees! Tax dollars directly pay for their benefits. I enjoy turning this issue upside down and sideways in an effort to flush out pros and cons. the bottom line is this: The cost of healthcare increases every year, making it more and more difficult for us to afford. This cannot continue. Guaranteeing every citizen excellent quality care at a greatly reduced cost would go a long way toward making America great - as 45 likes to say. Jameson  posted on  2017-09-28   12:34:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #14. To: Jameson (#11) Good try, these payroll deductions area tax A tax which in then refunded in the form of health insurance. "You also must take into consideration all the State, County, and municipal employees! Tax dollars directly pay for their benefits." I see. So they're going to give up their insurance for a Medicare-type program? Gosh, if it's that easy, let's do it today! They're government employees -- simply tell them that effective Monday, they're all on Medicare. misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-28   12:45:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #16. To: misterwhite (#14) A tax which in then refunded in the form of health insurance. Refunded? If you're suggesting that "MY" 1.45% (plus my employer's match) goes to pay for "MY" health insurance, you would be nowhere near the truth. It goes directly to pay the claims of current medicare recipients. Gosh, if it's that easy, let's do it today! Soon! Jameson  posted on  2017-09-28   12:56:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #18. To: Jameson (#16) Fine. A tax which is then indirectly refunded in the form of health insurance. misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-28   13:03:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #21. To: misterwhite (#18) Yes just like the income tax withheld from our paychecks is indirectly "refunded" in the form of salary and benefits for congressmen and senators...... Jameson  posted on  2017-09-28   13:39:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 21.         There are no replies to Comment # 21. End Trace Mode for Comment # 21. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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