Title: Hugh Hefner, Founder Of Playboy, Dead At 91 Source:
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Playboy founder and legendary ladies’ man Hugh Hefner has died at the age of 91, according to Playboy Enterprises.
The magazine said he was surrounded by loved ones and “peacefully passed away today from natural causes at his home.”
Guys like Hefner don't want virgins. And they wouldn't encounter any in their line of work. Virgins are pretty unpopular overall.
The women who show up to pose for Larry Flynt at Hustler or Hefner are slutty enough to show themselves to millions of people naked for money. They are a variety of prostitute and not attractive enough to make it in legit modeling, nothing more.
The women who show up to pose for Larry Flynt at Hustler or Hefner are slutty enough to show themselves to millions of people naked for money. They are a variety of prostitute and not attractive enough to make it in legit modeling, nothing more.
I used to think along those lines. But modeling is itself a skill -- somewhat at least, as it's more than simply being physically attractive. And I've never quite been able to understand the qualitative difference between a traditional model and a playboy model. Both are being paid to show off their physical beauty. The difference may largely be only in what a culture considers acceptable.
But more to the point, It's natural for women to want to be physically attractive to men. I think I read one quote by a playboy model about how she wouldn't be so attractive for the rest of her life so why not show it off while she can? Something along that line of thinking.
and not attractive enough to make it in legit modeling, nothing more.
Now that sounds disingenuous. Playboy models absolutely are attractive.
So you never managed to actually sneak a look inside Playbody, did you?
Seen it plenty and others too. Everyone has.
You never saw the top models in it unless their real modeling career had already ended.
I haven't seen it in years. I recall Hefner's daughter took over and they were going to dump the nekkid broads but I read a few years back that, surprise, people weren't just reading it for the articles after all. So supposedly they have the whores back on their pages now.
Hopefully, your right hand will stop throbbing with anger now that I've stopped insulting your girlfriends.
Now that sounds disingenuous. Playboy models absolutely are attractive.
They aren't the thoroughbreds of modeling. They'll never be in fashion mag shoots or on runways in Paris, Rome, London or New York. Or the cover of SI.
Melania Trump was a top model. She did that racy pic on Donald's plane but was already virtually retired. Earlier in her career she did do that supposedly artsy lesbo photo shoot using what looked like cheap equipment. But she was very young then, trying to get any kind of work apparently.
Your classic thoroughbreds would be Cheryl Tiegs or Naomi Campbell or Brooke Shields (child model) or Cybill Shepherd. I can't think of any others offhand but they made the big money, in demand for years. They were in the business of making every American woman neurotic about their looks for decades.
The women in Playboy were airbrushed to death, not in great shape, posed in certain postures. The ones in Hustler were the real dogs, especially those wide-open beaver shots, a Flynt specialty. No serious model is ever going to do the wide-open beaver shot because it looks like a cheesy pic from a gynecology textbook.
Airbrushing is not confined to nude models. It's practiced throughout the modeling industry.
And some of the well known "super models" ...some... are not women I, for one, consider particularly superior in beauty, though I do consider Melania Trump very top notch. Women are different, and what us guys prefer is also different, of course.
But I don't think it's honest to suggest that a shapely hot woman suddenly becomes ugly when she takes her clothes off. That is simply not how natural human biology works. There are cultural lines that are crossed at that point, but I think many guys that claim to be offended are simply in denial, clinging to religious dogma of whatever sort, and simply ashamed of how such a site makes them feel.
They'll never be in fashion mag shoots or on runways in Paris, Rome, London or New York. Or the cover of SI.
Good. Those balloonheaded chicks look like scrawny heroin addicts who just saw somebody back over their puppy. Utterly cold, braindead and unattractive.
Geez, you must have spent a lot of alone time with Playboy mags.
I don't think anyone my age subscribed to them. Those guys were all 10-20 years older than me. They were always into it "just for the articles". People I knew were into Penthouse or, for the raunchy-minded, Hustler.
And some of the well known "super models" ...some... are not women I, for one, consider particularly superior in beauty, though I do consider Melania Trump very top notch. Women are different, and what us guys prefer is also different, of course.
Whatever floats your boat. The top fashion models are clothes horses, stomping up and down runways in the latest clothes by some gay fashion designer. They seem to suffer a lot for doing modeling work but they get paid very highly for putting up with it. I've noticed there are always about a half-dozen models who are the big supermodels and they are at the top of the pay scale and in demand. They're also the big names who end up at the parties with the tycoons and whatnot.
What about the Victoria Secret models? Some of them are ok but I find them a bit too skinny. I like to see a real woman with curves. It's why I always like Playboy anyways. Been reading PB since I was 12.
They are a variety of prostitute and not attractive enough to make it in legit modeling, nothing more.
You are sooo naive to say that legit models do not play the role as prostitutes. Of course they do! What do you think their agents are really there for? Why don't you read up on Ford Models and how they played a role in the recruitment of underaged models into a sex trafficking ring also promoted by model agencies.
You are sooo naive to say that legit models do not play the role as prostitutes. Of course they do! What do you think their agents are really there for? Why don't you read up on Ford Models and how they played a role in the recruitment of underaged models into a sex trafficking ring also promoted by model agencies.
Geez, I have no idea who Ford Models is. Should I even care?
I'm not into fashion models or fashion mags or Playboy. I can't recall how long it's been since I subscribed to any magazine. Or bought one. Isn't that crap for really old people, kind of like still having a landline telephone?
Who even buys magazines any more? Around here, they don't even send the high school kids around to pester you to buy magazines. I see magazines in waiting rooms at clinics or a CPA or lawyer or dentist or barber. I never see magazines laying around at people's houses any more. Even 10 years ago, almost everyone had a couple. Now? Nada.
Some of them are ok but I find them a bit too skinny.
I agree fashion models are too often too skinny. I think there's some kind of reason skinny models are preferred. Perhaps it draws more attention to the attire the model is wearing. Less distraction somehow. There's been some kind of move against using skinny fashion models as it's portrayed as encouraging bulimia among women.
Cut the crap, Gnu. Cut the bullshit. The only woman I named that I considered very attractive here is Melania Trump. Are you suggesting Melania is a tranny?
The only woman I named that I considered very attractive here is Melania Trump. Are you suggesting Melania is a tranny?
Her titties in those old photos do look almost a little too perfect. But you can't tell if they're real or not. She is very feminine in all her public appearances.
Moochelle OTOH sometimes clomps around like a linebacker. There was an appearance in that 2008 campaign where she kinda stomped across the stage like an NFL linebacker, kind of spread her legs wide while standing that looked very mannish. I was expecting her to scratch her nuts and spit some chewing tobacco. There was nothing remotely feminine about it. Just the opposite. She really did look like a man in a dress on that one occasion.
Geez, you must have spent a lot of alone time with Playboy mags.
Actually, I didn't, and never subscribed - exposure was limited to those that made it inside the orbit of my circle of friends. We all liked Barbie Benton, just like the rest of America.
Overall, I thought it pretty boring. The photos were outstanding, cartoons worth checking out and often the interviews fascinating, but the copy around the photos was insipid, the "lifestyle" stuff corny and worthy of mocking. Who thinks selection of a proper dinner jacket and loungewear had any importance to real guys?
But it made a real mark in fighting for individual liberty and free speech in the process of putting out the monthly rag - for that it's historic.
Moochelle OTOH sometimes clomps around like a linebacker. There was an appearance in that 2008 campaign where she kinda stomped across the stage like an NFL linebacker, kind of spread her legs wide while standing that looked very mannish. I was expecting her to scratch her nuts and spit some chewing tobacco.
I always thought that big beast looked like a lumbering bag of laundry.
It's nice to once again have a First Lady who's obviously female; those were scary years of confusion.
But it made a real mark in fighting for individual liberty and free speech in the process of putting out the monthly rag - for that it's historic.
Sure. And it was a major part of the general attack on the family, on marital fidelity and part of the Left's use of pornography to alter public morality.
This is why after decades of feminists attacking porn as exploiting women and objectifying them, the Left recognizes Hefner as their hero at his death. He attacked and helped destroy the integrity of the family and the social cohesion of public morality.
the Left recognizes Hefner as their hero at his death. He attacked and helped destroy the integrity of the family and the social cohesion of public morality.
She is very feminine in all her public appearances.
Melania's face is beautiful. Totally feminine in every way. I suppose the rest of her is also. No idea if she's been assisted with surgery. Perhaps, but if so, it was a very good job.
Melania's face is beautiful. Totally feminine in every way. I suppose the rest of her is also.
If you're curious, you can google "Melania nude". Those are some old photos with a Swedish model, another few of Melania front/profile/back. There was another few racy photos of her nude on a bearskin in Trump's jet that were taken later, back when they just started dating.
#33. To: rlk, redleghunter, Pinguinite, Hank Rearden, no gnu taxes, goldilucky, XDMAR (#30)
A decent piece at National Review by David French, a perspective not seen much on this thread yet.
Hugh Hefner’s Legacy of Despair
Hugh Hefner didn’t invent pornography, and it would no doubt be thriving today even if he hadn’t founded Playboy magazine those many years ago. After all, man is fallen, and somebody would have filled that depraved niche in American life. Hefner, however, played his part, and the part he played was immensely destructive to our nation’s cultural, moral, and spiritual fabric. Hefner mainstreamed porn, he put it in millions of homes, and he even glamorized it — recasting one of America’s most pathetic industries as the playground of the sophisticated rich. He then grew to a ripe old age, consorting with women young enough to be his granddaughters. He was America’s most famous dirty old man.
And now he’s dead. May God have mercy on his soul.
It’s hard to calculate the damage he did, but the cultural rubble is all around us. My generation is perhaps the first to grow up with easily accessible porn. Every one of us knew whose father had a Playboy subscription (only the scary pervs subscribed to Penthouse or Hustler), and their kids knew exactly where dad kept his stash. They’d sneak out old issues, bring them to school, and pass them around. Before teens could rent porn on tape, they could see porn on the page, and once they saw it, they were hooked.
The effects have lasted a lifetime. Boys grew up believing they were entitled to sex on demand, and the sex would always be amazing. They learned to grow bored of the “same old thing” and instead to seek new adventures. They learned that monogamy was confining, that promiscuity was liberating, and that women should always be hot. The normal female form was no longer enough. It had to be enhanced, sculpted, and waxed.
Though that kind of reality can’t exist for the vast majority of men, that didn’t stop the desire. So, they did and do the pitiful thing — retreated to bathrooms and bedrooms and masturbated nonstop to the women they could never have and the life they’d never live.
How many families have broken to pieces when a wife discovers her husband’s secret addiction and realizes that she’s not enough — that she’s never been enough — and he spends much of his life fantasizing about thousands of others? How many men have grown to hate themselves for their psychological dependence on the saddest of habits? The testimonies from porn nation are devastating.
“I watched so much porn that I can’t really enjoy sex with my wife.”
“He wants me to be something I can’t. I’ll never be as good as the girl on the screen.”
“I can’t imagine being content with just one woman. I’ve had sex with thousands in my mind.”
To see men become addicted to porn is to watch character formation in reverse. Their integrity and fidelity unwind before your eyes. They lie habitually to cover the extent of their habit, even when their wives are allegedly “open” and sexually liberated. After all, if she knew how much he watched or exactly what he looked at, even she would be shocked. The screen alone is never enough, the wife is never enough, and the addict so often seeks mistresses, prostitutes, or both.
Another family breaks. More lives fall into despair.
All this is known. Everyone has seen it happen in their churches, in their neighborhoods, and in their families. This cycle has likely happened to thousands of men who’ll read this column. And yet, the secular, progressive guardians of our public morality — you know, the people who think you’re a horrible person if you don’t recycle or if you use the wrong pronouns — all so often don’t just tolerate but celebrate the sexual “liberation” that is part and parcel of porn nation.
So many A-list celebrities spent time at the Playboy Mansion, especially at its peak, that there was a time when one could wonder who hadn’t embraced Hef or the magazine he made. Our president has. The evidence is on his office wall. These were the people setting the tone for American culture. These were the people mocking the values that kept families strong. These were the people who were teaching a nation that fulfillment could be found in sex, and that the joy of sex was worth more than marriage itself.
They were wrong, and the cultural harm done outweighs the cost of botched presidential elections, bad congressmen, or a judiciary riddled with knaves and fools. The cultural harm done is even now ripping kids from parents and husbands from wives. When I think of Hugh Hefner, yes I mourn, but I mourn because the bitter fruit of his life’s work has helped poison the families of people I know and love. He is gone, but his legacy lives on. And his is a legacy of despair.
#34. To: All, rlk, redleghunter, Pinguinite, Hank Rearden, no gnu taxes, goldilucky, XDMAR (#33)
Ben Shapiro: "Hefner is iconic only because our culture has been so degraded. Yes, Hefner published articles by Norman Mailer and John Updike. So did Picador and Random House. But neither of those publishers have been feted for doing so. The media may pretend that Hefner’s “sophistication” is the reason they’re praising him today, but it’s his obscenity and his open hatred of traditional morality that really turned them on."
Hugh Hefner didn’t invent pornography, and it would no doubt be thriving today even if he hadn’t founded Playboy magazine those many years ago. After all, man is fallen, and somebody would have filled that depraved niche in American life.
That statement is correct, but then the author goes on to say:
It’s hard to calculate the damage he did, but the cultural rubble is all around us.
So is he to blame for pornography or not?
We should be realistic and admit that sexual excesses and perversion did, in fact, exist prior to 1963, or whenever it was the first issue of playboy was released. The latter period of the Roman Empire was filled with excesses, by then accumulating (so I've read) 180 official holidays every year (one every other day). The excesses of wealth can spoil most any man (or woman), and that has always been true. The only thing different today is technology, and people have to adjust to it. There is no alternative.
We should be realistic and admit that sexual excesses and perversion did, in fact, exist prior to 1963, or whenever it was the first issue of playboy was released. The latter period of the Roman Empire was filled with excesses, by then accumulating (so I've read) 180 official holidays every year (one every other day). The excesses of wealth can spoil most any man (or woman), and that has always been true. The only thing different today is technology, and people have to adjust to it. There is no alternative.
Hef started in 1953. Marilyn Monroe was his first cover Playmate. And he finagled a way to get a grave right next to hers.
No one is pretending that Hef invented pron. But he opened the door wide, made it acceptable, sophisticated, sold it as respectable to middle class people. The rich pervs and the low-end degenerates always had porn. Hefner mainstreamed it, made it something more than some dirty peepshow in Times Square with little film loops for a quarter (or whatever the price was).
So is he to blame for pornography or not?
A major figure in mainstreaming porn and helping it penetrate across the society.
A major figure in mainstreaming porn and helping it penetrate across the society.
He converted psychopathic sex from being an embarrasment into being an acceptable national sport with interchangeable and instataneously replacable partners.
He deserves a large share of the credit (or blame).
He'd resent it if you denied that he was a major player in the broad assault on traditional morality.
I think he'd demand that you give him his fair due in the sexual revolution. And you don't get to have it both ways, no matter how many thousands of times you jerked your little pud while giving a glassy-eyed stare to his airbrushed whores.
