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Title: Jaguars, Ravens players kneel [overseas] during anthem amid Trump's criticism
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The Hill
URL Source: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief ... l-during-anthem-in-response-to
Published: Sep 24, 2017
Author: Brandon Carter
Post Date: 2017-09-24 12:43:38 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 26794
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Multiple Baltimore Ravens and Jacksonville Jaguars players knelt on Sunday during the playing of the national anthem at the first NFL game since President Trump called for players who take a knee to be fired. Video and photos posted to Twitter shows players kneeling and locking arms as the anthem played. Jacksonville Jaguars owner Shad Khan joined his players on the field and linked arms with them before the game began. Trump has faced backlash in recent days from after calling on NFL owners to fire players who kneel during the national anthem. "Wouldn't you love to see one of these NFL owners, when somebody disrespects our flag, to say, 'Get that son of a b---- off the field right now,'" Trump said at a rally in Alabama on Friday. "'He is fired.'" Trump’s comments brought rebukes against Trump from multiple NFL players, the head of the NFL players’ union and NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell, who called Trump’s comments “divisive” and said they showed a “lack of respect for the NFL.” Several NFL executives have also spoken out against Trump and reaffirmed their players’ rights to peacefully protest. But Trump on Sunday doubled down on his comments, calling for players to be fired or suspended for not standing during the national anthem and hitting the NFL for not telling players to stand. — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 24, 2017 — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 24, 2017 Poster Comment: Notice that "Shad Khan" (what a cute nickname), the Jaguars owner is a Paki immigrant and Sunni Muslim who joined his team in publicly disrespecting our country. Notice that they traveled overseas to disrespect our flag and anthem. But both teams stood for the British anthem! Another NFL story about kneeling: Ravens and Jaguars players kneeling during National Anthem in England pic.twitter.com/GhthyfIEe3— Justin Fenton (@justin_fenton) September 24, 2017 Many players from both teams kneeling during anthem in London, arms linked.— Neil Best (@sportswatch) September 24, 2017 Multiple players on both the Baltimore Ravens and Jacksonville Jaguars took a knee during the national anthem in the first NFL game today pic.twitter.com/lSz7IcwhBm— BuzzFeed News (@BuzzFeedNews) September 24, 2017 
A multitude of #Ravens and #Jaguars players kneeling during the National Anthem this morning, the rest of the team locking arms in unison pic.twitter.com/c97tPS9PxC— Ashlyn Sullivan (@ashlynrsullivan) September 24, 2017 
Jaguars’ owner Shad Khan: pic.twitter.com/aMO8cHDWYb— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) September 24, 2017 
If NFL fans refuse to go to games until players stop disrespecting our Flag & Country, you will see change take place fast. Fire or suspend! ...NFL attendance and ratings are WAY DOWN. Boring games yes, but many stay away because they love our country. League should back U.S.
I did my best to get those Twitter pics to show here.
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#30. To: A K A Stone (#26)
He's right...Kapernik is a loser.
Uh-huh. And if a member of the Ku Klux Klan apologized for the latest cross burning in a black's front yard and donated $35K to the United Negro College Fund that would make race relations better? We now know what he thinks, how he feels, and what he tells his friends. That's not gonna change. He's simply going to be more careful.
US Army Ranger only one to come out for anthem. Steelers don't participate in national anthem, with exception of ex-Ranger Alejandro Villanueva
Heathen, you just make stuff up.
If he wants to give them the ol' yellow stain blues, send the dogs after them on anti-trust.
They thought they were playing My Country, Tis of Thee.
Actually, it has already spread to major league baseball, and internationally, and the actions are not happening in private. What it is not, is a matter of constitutionally protected free speech. The First Amendment protects against governmental interference with free speech. If the players can disrespect the flag, the national anthem, or the country on the field, in uniform, while they represent the team and the league, it is because they are being permitted to do so by the NFL and their team.
Thank you for admitting that Trump is wrong, and should shut his scofflaw mouth. Thank you for participating. You get the Kaepernick participation award for adding your highly valued, albeit erroneous, insight.
Another Rockefeller Republican heard from. First you swallowed Gay Johnson's swill, now you are with kaperdick. Well you do like your dick don't you hongulper.
That will not be forgotten. I'm sure Twitter applauded him and the SJWs tore him up.
Trump is equally free to urge their employers to fire them.
I had to look him up, had never heard of him even if he is syndicated on 100 stations. Good quip though.
Jones was on fire in his clip. He didn't really want to stop.
Did any Patriots kneel? I'm curious after their owner Kraft criticized Trump and supported the playas. Someone should start a website, listing who kneels or acts out or refuse to leave the locker room for the anthem and in which games. Update: Some Patriots did kneel, Brady did an arm link with one for solidarity
Thank you for your participation despite your obvious struggles with forming any rational thought.
I have heard him occasionally as a fill-in for Rush Limbaugh.
It was a dozen or so. Loud booing followed the national anthem. [excerpt] Fueled by comments by President Donald J. Trump aimed at NFL players not standing for the national anthem, McCourty and at least 15 Patriots teammates took a knee during the anthem prior to playing the Texans Sunday. Many fans booed the players in response and called for them to “stand up.”
By Mallory Shelbourne Several NASCAR team owners said Sunday they would not condone racers protesting during the national anthem, amid protests by sports players at football and baseball games. There were no protests reported during “The Star-Spangled Banner" at the Monster Energy NASCAR Cup Series in New Hampshire, according to The Associated Press. Former NASCAR champion Richard Petty told the AP that any member of his team would be fired if they chose to protest the national anthem. Petty now owns Richard Petty Motorsports. “Anybody that don’t stand up for the anthem oughta be out of the country. Period. What got ’em where they’re at? The United States,” Petty said in comments reported by the AP. Richard Childress, a former driver who owns Richard Childress Racing, said any protests from his team members would “get you a ride on a Greyhound bus.” [...]
All eyes on tomorrow nights game. If no Cowboys disrespect our anthem, then Dallas will be the only team I watch this year. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
I've always disliked the Dallas Cowboys. They may be my new favorite team.
Rednecks taking a stand. Love it. Houston Texans apparently all stood. Jerry Jones told Cowboys players if they kneel they don't play. That was rumor control from a few coaches I know in the know. :-)
Houston Oilers used to be my favorite team. Back in the days of Earl Campbell, Warren Moon, Ernest Givins etc.
Maybe you shouldn't switch teams just yet. See how it plays out for a week or so. There's still plenty of NFL season left.
Update. Local sports writer stated the Jerry Jones threat was fake news. So stay tuned for Monday Night football to see how the Cowboys deal with the recent protests.
I looked into this one more. I saw it reported that the young black coach of the Steelers, Mike Tomlin, was on the field with some other coaches (but nowhere near Villaneuve). I noticed that ABC initially reported that all the Steelers stayed in the locker room. Obviously a lie and a deliberate lie at that. Then ABC switched around and tried to pretend that the Steelers QB came out once the anthem had started. Well, it looked like he came out leading the team only after the last words of the anthem were sung. So, another deliberate lie, I think. "We're not participating in the anthem today," Tomlin said, adding that the action was "not to be disrespectful to the anthem" but to remove the team "from this circumstance." "People shouldn't have to choose" whether to kneel or stand during the anthem, he said. "If a guy feels a need to do something he should not be separated from his teammate who chooses not to." "So we're not participating today," he said. "That's our decision." At Soldier Field, Coach Tomlin was spotted with other coaches on the sideline, but most of the players remained in the locker room as expected. Once the national anthem commenced, quarterback Ben Roethlisberger walked out of the tunnel, as did left tackle Alejandro Villanueva, who served as an Army ranger in Afghanistan. He held a hand over his heart as he marched onto the field. With all the arm-linking and statements about "supporting their teammates" (including some shameless pandering by Tom Brady), where were the Steelers supporting their teammate Villaneuve who had served multiple tours in Af-Pak? And then ABC shamelessly lied about the whole event. You know, because those football fans are just too damned stupid to notice all their lies anyway. Tomlin gave this answer on the Steelers sitting it out post-game:
Well a rookie catcher on the cellar dwelling Oakland A's was the first baseball player to take a knee. A’s Bruce Maxwell first MLB player to kneel for anthem A terrible team and insignificant rookie.
I'm wondering if Villaneuve will be fined by his team or face repercussions. Would they dare? The YouTube thread is an all-out flame war as you can imagine. They seem to hate Villaneuve almost as much as they used to hate Tebow. At least, they're testing the waters.
https://twitter.com/govmikehuckabee?lang=en Instead of mega-rich athletes taking knee during Nat'l Anthem, why not get on BOTH knees and thank God they live in USA? #respecttheflag - - - - - - - - - -
Maybe they could clean up the minor problem in the peace loving and undeerstanding neighborhood of Chiraq. http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-weekend-shootings-september-22-to-24-447523093.html Three people have been killed and at least 36 have been wounded in shootings across Chicago this weekend. The latest fatality occurred in the city’s South Austin neighborhood around 9:30 a.m. Sunday morning. A 34-year-old man was shot in the neck and chest by a person in a silver sedan, and was pronounced dead at Stroger Hospital. Another person, a 33-year-old man, was shot and killed in the 1500 block of South Trumbell around 2 a.m. Sunday morning. He was found in the street with a gunshot wound to his face by police, and was pronounced dead at Mt. Sinai. Friday: Saturday: Sunday:
I couldn't help myself but find a variation of that old gif you posted. So there!
My brother is a huge Pittsburgh fan since he was a kid. He doesn't care much for Tomlin. I'm wondering what he thinks of the Steelers now.
I suppose you could ask him at a Thanksgiving or Christmas dinner. I would guess that the libs are scribbling away already on advisory pieces about "how to talk to your child about football and the trauma of the national anthem", "how to talk to your drunk uncle about how wrong the anthem is", etc. Of course, this is just the Left doing its best to make everything political and controversial. And they do, of course, hate Thanksgiving and Christmas and the anthem and the NFL to begin with so pouring some gasoline on this and striking matches is a no-brainer for them. They are political arsonists.
My first guess: they were all shot by our national anthem.
That is entirely the issue, and why so many people are starting to shun the NFL.
DailyCaller: Sales Of Villanueva’s Football Jersey Skyrocket Sales of the former Army Ranger’s jersey on Fanatics.com shot up to the highest-seller among Pittsburgh Steelers jersey as of just 10 PM Eastern time. Additionally, Villanueva’s jersey sales rocketed into the top sellers in the entire league as of 7:45 PM EST behind only Marshawn Lynch, Derek Carr, Carson Wentz, Brown, and Aaron Rodgers, 247 Sports reported. I think we all could have predicted this one.
Well, it is constitutionally protected from criminal action which means Trump has zero legal authority to do anything about it. My meaning with "private" was that the government has no say or grounds for complaint in the matter, and that it was solely in the purview of the NFL to deal with however they see fit. True, as stadiums qualify as public venues and the events are widely broadcast it is not private it that sense. As it is not a federal matter, Trump should declare it as such, and his condemnation of the protest should be billed as his personal opinion, though underscoring that is not Trump's way. From another angle, Trump's condemnation of the protests have actually served to reward the protesters with the very attention they want. That may have actually fanned the flames, so to speak, and encouraged other athletes to protest as well. Pro athletes may well have modest loyalty to country, but likely a stronger loyalty to their teammates, and compatriots in other pro sports.
Retired Sergeant Major across the street good buddy and neighbor is a huge Steelers fan. He's mighty pissed. I'm sure when he gets back from Idaho bear hunting (he did get a medium sized black bear last week) he will be sporting Villanueva's jersey in his garage workshop.
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#31. To: Tooconservative (#6)
Crowell made a phony apology video and pledged to donate a game check to a police charity ($35,294.12).
#32. To: Tooconservative, Nolu Chan, Liberator (#23)
#33. To: A K A Stone (#25)
You liberals just love open borders.
#34. To: misterwhite, Tooconservative (#1)
If the IRS can slow-walk applications from conservative groups -- with zero consequences -- then DHS can certainly slow-walk their entry back into the U.S.
#35. To: redleghunter (#28)
Guess no history majors among the bunch.
#36. To: Pinguinite, Tooconservative (#12)
It's purely a private NFL matter.
#37. To: nolu chan, *Bill of Rights-Constitution* (#36)
The First Amendment protects against governmental interference with free speech.
#38. To: hondo68 (#37)
Thank you for admitting that Trump is wrong, and should shut his scofflaw mouth.
#39. To: nolu chan (#38)
#40. To: hondo68 (#37)
#41. To: redleghunter (#32)
US Army Ranger only one to come out for anthem.
#42. To: hondo68 (#37)
Thank you for admitting that Trump is wrong, and should shut his scofflaw mouth.
#43. To: nolu chan (#24)
#44. To: A K A Stone (#26)
#45. To: redleghunter (#27)
(Edited)
Not to mention Brady with 40 seconds left wins the game...again. :-)
#46. To: hondo68 (#39)
#47. To: Tooconservative (#43)
I had to look him up, had never heard of him even if he is syndicated on 100 stations.
#48. To: Tooconservative (#45)
Did any Patriots kneel?
FOXBORO — Devin McCourty knew it was going to be unpopular to some, but the Patriots defensive captain felt it was necessary.
#49. To: Tooconservative, redleghunter (#45)
NASCAR owners say they wouldn’t tolerate national anthem protests at races
The Hill
09/24/17 04:03 PM EDT
#50. To: Tooconservative (#44)
Jones was on fire in his clip.
#51. To: GrandIsland (#50)
All eyes on tomorrow nights game. If no Cowboys disrespect our anthem, then Dallas will be the only team I watch this year.
#52. To: nolu chan (#49)
#53. To: redleghunter (#52)
Houston Texans apparently all stood.
#54. To: GrandIsland (#50)
All eyes on tomorrow nights game. If no Cowboys disrespect our anthem, then Dallas will be the only team I watch this year.
#55. To: All (#52)
Jerry Jones told Cowboys players if they kneel they don't play.
#56. To: redleghunter, nolu chan (#32)
US Army Ranger only one to come out for anthem.
The Pittsburgh Steelers' coach Mike Tomlin decided to skip the anthem altogether today.
#57. To: Tooconservative (#56)
#58. To: redleghunter (#57)
#59. To: Tooconservative, redleghunter (#58)
They seem to hate Villaneuve almost as much as they used to hate Tebow.
Gov. Mike Huckabee?Verified account @GovMikeHuckabee 16h16 hours ago
#60. To: redleghunter, Tooconservative (#57)
#61. To: All (#60)
3 Dead, at Least 36 Wounded in Chicago Shooting
#62. To: Tooconservative (#8)
#63. To: Tooconservative (#58)
I'm wondering if Villaneuve will be fined by his team or face repercussions. Would they dare?
#64. To: A K A Stone (#63)
My brother is a huge Pittsburgh fan since he was a kid. He doesn't care much for Tomlin. I'm wondering what he thinks of the Steelers now.
#65. To: nolu chan (#61)
Sunday:
#66. To: nolu chan (#36)
If the players can disrespect the flag, the national anthem, or the country on the field, in uniform, while they represent the team and the league, it is because they are being permitted to do so by the NFL
#67. To: All, redleghunter, nolu chan, A K A Stone, buckeroo (#58)
Alejandro Villanueva, the lone football player on the Pittsburgh Steelers who stood during the national anthem Sunday while the rest of his team remained in the locker room, has become more popular than ever as sales of his jersey have skyrocketed.
#68. To: nolu chan (#36)
What it is not, is a matter of constitutionally protected free speech. The First Amendment protects against governmental interference with free speech.
#69. To: Tooconservative (#67)
Additionally, Villanueva’s jersey sales rocketed into the top sellers in the entire league as of 7:45 PM EST behind only Marshawn Lynch, Derek Carr, Carson Wentz, Brown, and Aaron Rodgers, 247 Sports reported.
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