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Title: Jaguars, Ravens players kneel [overseas] during anthem amid Trump's criticism
Source: The Hill
URL Source: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief ... l-during-anthem-in-response-to
Published: Sep 24, 2017
Author: Brandon Carter
Post Date: 2017-09-24 12:43:38 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 26652
Comments: 124

Multiple Baltimore Ravens and Jacksonville Jaguars players knelt on Sunday during the playing of the national anthem at the first NFL game since President Trump called for players who take a knee to be fired.

Video and photos posted to Twitter shows players kneeling and locking arms as the anthem played.
Ravens and Jaguars players kneeling during National Anthem in England pic.twitter.com/GhthyfIEe3— Justin Fenton (@justin_fenton) September 24, 2017
Many players from both teams kneeling during anthem in London, arms linked.— Neil Best (@sportswatch) September 24, 2017
Multiple players on both the Baltimore Ravens and Jacksonville Jaguars took a knee during the national anthem in the first NFL game today pic.twitter.com/lSz7IcwhBm— BuzzFeed News (@BuzzFeedNews) September 24, 2017

A multitude of #Ravens and #Jaguars players kneeling during the National Anthem this morning, the rest of the team locking arms in unison pic.twitter.com/c97tPS9PxC— Ashlyn Sullivan (@ashlynrsullivan) September 24, 2017

Jacksonville Jaguars owner Shad Khan joined his players on the field and linked arms with them before the game began. 
Jaguars’ owner Shad Khan: pic.twitter.com/aMO8cHDWYb— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) September 24, 2017

Trump has faced backlash in recent days from after calling on NFL owners to fire players who kneel during the national anthem.

"Wouldn't you love to see one of these NFL owners, when somebody disrespects our flag, to say, 'Get that son of a b---- off the field right now,'" Trump said at a rally in Alabama on Friday. "'He is fired.'"

Trump’s comments brought rebukes against Trump from multiple NFL players, the head of the NFL players’ union and NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell, who called Trump’s comments “divisive” and said they showed a “lack of respect for the NFL.”

Several NFL executives have also spoken out against Trump and reaffirmed their players’ rights to peacefully protest.

But Trump on Sunday doubled down on his comments, calling for players to be fired or suspended for not standing during the national anthem and hitting the NFL for not telling players to stand.
If NFL fans refuse to go to games until players stop disrespecting our Flag & Country, you will see change take place fast. Fire or suspend!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 24, 2017

...NFL attendance and ratings are WAY DOWN. Boring games yes, but many stay away because they love our country. League should back U.S.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 24, 2017


Poster Comment:



I did my best to get those Twitter pics to show here.

Notice that "Shad Khan" (what a cute nickname), the Jaguars owner is a Paki immigrant and Sunni Muslim who joined his team in publicly disrespecting our country.

Notice that they traveled overseas to disrespect our flag and anthem. But both teams stood for the British anthem!

IJR: While Everyone Wonders Who Will #TakeAKnee on Sunday, Some Remember One Hero Who Never Would…Pat Tillman

Another NFL story about kneeling:

MRC: NFL Analysts: Tim Tebow Hated Because of His Faith (3 images)

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#20. To: A K A Stone (#19)

... leave the constitution and thinking to Trump.

How does Trump consider the US Constitution when he forces his personal BULLSHIT on other world powers and even the US citizenry without Congress or the Supreme Court?

buckeroo  posted on  2017-09-24   15:41:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: buckeroo (#11)

Wow, I rated three choruses of Jesus Loves Me from buckeroo.

High praise indeed.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-24   15:50:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: redleghunter (#14)

Yeah way out of hand. What a pathetic display of smugness.

It goes back for some of us to that old saying about our political arguments stop at our shores. The Left has taken to breaking that routinely.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-24   15:51:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: buckeroo (#20)

How does Trump consider the US Constitution when he forces his personal BULLSHIT on other world powers and even the US citizenry without Congress or the Supreme Court?

I'm sure the people of Belize are safe enough. They're pretty low on Trump's shit list.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-24   15:53:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Tooconservative (#0)

At Reddit, The Donald

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/

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https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/7275cc/the_rest_hid_like_cowards/

Alejandro Villanueva was the only Steeler to stand for our flag today. The rest hid like cowards! God Bless America!

[Villanueva - former Army Ranger]

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The NFL likes creating a sense of unity, but that's only when players are on the field. (i.redd.it)

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nolu chan  posted on  2017-09-24   16:14:12 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: buckeroo (#20)

How does Trump consider the US Constitution when he forces his personal BULLSHIT on other world powers and even the US citizenry without Congress or the Supreme Court?

You liberals just love open borders. His travel ban is constitutional no matter how much you cry about it.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-09-24   16:19:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: nolu chan, tooconservative, buckeroo (#24)

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-09-24   16:22:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Tooconservative (#22)

Well the Patriots had a full house today.

Not to mention Brady with 40 seconds left wins the game...again. :-)

redleghunter  posted on  2017-09-24   16:22:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: nolu chan (#24)

Stood for God save the Queen.

I guess they support British Imperialism.

Not to mention supporting the starvation of hundreds of thousands of Irish.

Guess no history majors among the bunch. :-)

redleghunter  posted on  2017-09-24   16:25:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Tooconservative (#2)

It seems the owners, including Kraft of New England Patriots, are backing the playas or critical of Trump. Owners/CEOs of Houston Texans and Chicago Bears supporting playas.

The owners are backing their investment in their players for now. If a boycott hits their bottom line, they will have another business decision to make.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-09-24   16:27:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: A K A Stone (#26)

He's right...Kapernik is a loser.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-09-24   16:31:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Tooconservative (#6)

Crowell made a phony apology video and pledged to donate a game check to a police charity ($35,294.12).

Uh-huh. And if a member of the Ku Klux Klan apologized for the latest cross burning in a black's front yard and donated $35K to the United Negro College Fund that would make race relations better?

We now know what he thinks, how he feels, and what he tells his friends. That's not gonna change. He's simply going to be more careful.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-24   16:35:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Tooconservative, Nolu Chan, Liberator (#23)

US Army Ranger only one to come out for anthem.

Steelers don't participate in national anthem, with exception of ex-Ranger Alejandro Villanueva

redleghunter  posted on  2017-09-24   16:42:30 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: A K A Stone (#25)

You liberals just love open borders.

Heathen, you just make stuff up.

buckeroo  posted on  2017-09-24   17:03:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: misterwhite, Tooconservative (#1)

If the IRS can slow-walk applications from conservative groups -- with zero consequences -- then DHS can certainly slow-walk their entry back into the U.S.

If he wants to give them the ol' yellow stain blues, send the dogs after them on anti-trust.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-09-24   17:03:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: redleghunter (#28)

Guess no history majors among the bunch.

They thought they were playing My Country, Tis of Thee.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-09-24   17:06:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Pinguinite, Tooconservative (#12)

It's purely a private NFL matter.

Actually, it has already spread to major league baseball, and internationally, and the actions are not happening in private.

What it is not, is a matter of constitutionally protected free speech. The First Amendment protects against governmental interference with free speech.

If the players can disrespect the flag, the national anthem, or the country on the field, in uniform, while they represent the team and the league, it is because they are being permitted to do so by the NFL and their team.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-09-24   17:17:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: nolu chan, *Bill of Rights-Constitution* (#36)

The First Amendment protects against governmental interference with free speech.

Thank you for admitting that Trump is wrong, and should shut his scofflaw mouth.

Hondo68  posted on  2017-09-24   17:26:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: hondo68 (#37)

Thank you for admitting that Trump is wrong, and should shut his scofflaw mouth.

Thank you for participating. You get the Kaepernick participation award for adding your highly valued, albeit erroneous, insight.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-09-24   17:29:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: nolu chan (#38)

Another Rockefeller Republican heard from.

Hondo68  posted on  2017-09-24   18:10:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: hondo68 (#37)

First you swallowed Gay Johnson's swill, now you are with kaperdick. Well you do like your dick don't you hongulper.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-09-24   18:20:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: redleghunter (#32)

US Army Ranger only one to come out for anthem.

That will not be forgotten. I'm sure Twitter applauded him and the SJWs tore him up.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-24   19:10:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: hondo68 (#37)

Thank you for admitting that Trump is wrong, and should shut his scofflaw mouth.

Trump is equally free to urge their employers to fire them.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-24   19:12:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: nolu chan (#24)

I had to look him up, had never heard of him even if he is syndicated on 100 stations. Good quip though.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-24   19:16:36 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: A K A Stone (#26)

Jones was on fire in his clip. He didn't really want to stop.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-24   19:17:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: redleghunter (#27) (Edited)

Not to mention Brady with 40 seconds left wins the game...again. :-)

Did any Patriots kneel? I'm curious after their owner Kraft criticized Trump and supported the playas.

Someone should start a website, listing who kneels or acts out or refuse to leave the locker room for the anthem and in which games.

Update: Some Patriots did kneel, Brady did an arm link with one for solidarity

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-24   19:32:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: hondo68 (#39)

Thank you for your participation despite your obvious struggles with forming any rational thought.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-09-24   19:56:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Tooconservative (#43)

I had to look him up, had never heard of him even if he is syndicated on 100 stations.

I have heard him occasionally as a fill-in for Rush Limbaugh.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-09-24   19:59:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Tooconservative (#45)

Did any Patriots kneel?

It was a dozen or so. Loud booing followed the national anthem.

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/patriots/the_blitz/2017/09/devin_mccourty_explains_why_patriots_knelt_during_national_anthem

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FOXBORO — Devin McCourty knew it was going to be unpopular to some, but the Patriots defensive captain felt it was necessary.

Fueled by comments by President Donald J. Trump aimed at NFL players not standing for the national anthem, McCourty and at least 15 Patriots teammates took a knee during the anthem prior to playing the Texans Sunday. Many fans booed the players in response and called for them to “stand up.”

nolu chan  posted on  2017-09-24   20:06:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Tooconservative, redleghunter (#45)

http://thehill.com/homenews/news/352164-nascar-owners-say-they-wouldnt-tolerate-national-anthem-protests-at-races

NASCAR owners say they wouldn’t tolerate national anthem protests at races

By Mallory Shelbourne
The Hill
09/24/17 04:03 PM EDT

Several NASCAR team owners said Sunday they would not condone racers protesting during the national anthem, amid protests by sports players at football and baseball games.

There were no protests reported during “The Star-Spangled Banner" at the Monster Energy NASCAR Cup Series in New Hampshire, according to The Associated Press.

Former NASCAR champion Richard Petty told the AP that any member of his team would be fired if they chose to protest the national anthem. Petty now owns Richard Petty Motorsports.

“Anybody that don’t stand up for the anthem oughta be out of the country. Period. What got ’em where they’re at? The United States,” Petty said in comments reported by the AP.

Richard Childress, a former driver who owns Richard Childress Racing, said any protests from his team members would “get you a ride on a Greyhound bus.”

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nolu chan  posted on  2017-09-24   20:31:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Tooconservative (#44)

Jones was on fire in his clip.

All eyes on tomorrow nights game. If no Cowboys disrespect our anthem, then Dallas will be the only team I watch this year.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2017-09-24   20:58:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: GrandIsland (#50)

All eyes on tomorrow nights game. If no Cowboys disrespect our anthem, then Dallas will be the only team I watch this year.

I've always disliked the Dallas Cowboys.

They may be my new favorite team.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-09-24   21:01:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: nolu chan (#49)

Rednecks taking a stand. Love it.

Houston Texans apparently all stood. Jerry Jones told Cowboys players if they kneel they don't play. That was rumor control from a few coaches I know in the know. :-)

redleghunter  posted on  2017-09-24   21:01:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: redleghunter (#52)

Houston Texans apparently all stood.

Houston Oilers used to be my favorite team. Back in the days of Earl Campbell, Warren Moon, Ernest Givins etc.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-09-24   21:03:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: GrandIsland (#50)

All eyes on tomorrow nights game. If no Cowboys disrespect our anthem, then Dallas will be the only team I watch this year.

Maybe you shouldn't switch teams just yet. See how it plays out for a week or so. There's still plenty of NFL season left.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-24   22:01:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: All (#52)

Jerry Jones told Cowboys players if they kneel they don't play.

Update. Local sports writer stated the Jerry Jones threat was fake news.

So stay tuned for Monday Night football to see how the Cowboys deal with the recent protests.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-09-24   22:03:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: redleghunter, nolu chan (#32)

US Army Ranger only one to come out for anthem.

I looked into this one more. I saw it reported that the young black coach of the Steelers, Mike Tomlin, was on the field with some other coaches (but nowhere near Villaneuve).

I noticed that ABC initially reported that all the Steelers stayed in the locker room. Obviously a lie and a deliberate lie at that.

Then ABC switched around and tried to pretend that the Steelers QB came out once the anthem had started. Well, it looked like he came out leading the team only after the last words of the anthem were sung. So, another deliberate lie, I think.

The Pittsburgh Steelers' coach Mike Tomlin decided to skip the anthem altogether today.

"We're not participating in the anthem today," Tomlin said, adding that the action was "not to be disrespectful to the anthem" but to remove the team "from this circumstance."

"People shouldn't have to choose" whether to kneel or stand during the anthem, he said. "If a guy feels a need to do something he should not be separated from his teammate who chooses not to."

"So we're not participating today," he said. "That's our decision."

At Soldier Field, Coach Tomlin was spotted with other coaches on the sideline, but most of the players remained in the locker room as expected.

Once the national anthem commenced, quarterback Ben Roethlisberger walked out of the tunnel, as did left tackle Alejandro Villanueva, who served as an Army ranger in Afghanistan. He held a hand over his heart as he marched onto the field.

With all the arm-linking and statements about "supporting their teammates" (including some shameless pandering by Tom Brady), where were the Steelers supporting their teammate Villaneuve who had served multiple tours in Af-Pak?

And then ABC shamelessly lied about the whole event. You know, because those football fans are just too damned stupid to notice all their lies anyway.

Tomlin gave this answer on the Steelers sitting it out post-game:

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-24   23:40:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Tooconservative (#56)

Well a rookie catcher on the cellar dwelling Oakland A's was the first baseball player to take a knee.

A’s Bruce Maxwell first MLB player to kneel for anthem

A terrible team and insignificant rookie.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-09-24   23:55:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: redleghunter (#57)

I'm wondering if Villaneuve will be fined by his team or face repercussions. Would they dare?

The YouTube thread is an all-out flame war as you can imagine. They seem to hate Villaneuve almost as much as they used to hate Tebow. At least, they're testing the waters.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-25   0:13:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Tooconservative, redleghunter (#58)

They seem to hate Villaneuve almost as much as they used to hate Tebow.

https://twitter.com/govmikehuckabee?lang=en

Gov. Mike Huckabee?Verified account @GovMikeHuckabee 16h16 hours ago

Instead of mega-rich athletes taking knee during Nat'l Anthem, why not get on BOTH knees and thank God they live in USA? #respecttheflag

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#60. To: redleghunter, Tooconservative (#57)

nolu chan  posted on  2017-09-25   2:08:07 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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