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Title: Mark Levin obliterates Jimmy Kimmel for secretly colluding with Dems on health care
Source: TheRightScoop
URL Source: http://therightscoop.com/mark-levin ... ding-with-dems-on-health-care/
Published: Sep 23, 2017
Author: SooperMexican
Post Date: 2017-09-23 15:14:36 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 7895
Comments: 30

Yesterday we discovered that Jimmy Kimmel didn’t figure out how much he hated the Obamacare repeal bill by himself – he enlisted the help of Chucky Schumer for months on it.

And Mark Levin is NOT happy about it.

ROLL THE TAPE MISTER PRODUCER!!

Levin makes a really good point. “Jimmy Kimmel, you’re a deceitful SOB. You should’ve told the American people when you were espousing what you were espousing that you were getting talking points from Chuck Schumer,” Levin said. That’s exactly right. If Kimmel wants to be a mouthpiece for the Democratic party, OK, but be honest about it. Tell America when you’re attacking the Graham-Cassidy bill that you’re just spouting off political spin from Chuck Schumer.

But these days, the truth doesn’t matter anymore, only the perception. We’re screwed.


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I do enjoy it when Levin sounds like he's about to burst a few blood vessels.

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#8. To: Tooconservative (#0)

http://www.dailywire.com/news/21330/jimmy-kimmel-has-no-moral-authority-health-care-ben-shapiro

Jimmy Kimmel Has No Moral Authority On Health Care Just Because His Son Had Heart Surgery. Here's Why.

Ben Shapiro
The Daily Wire
Sept. 20, 2017

On Tuesday evening, ABC’s Jimmy Kimmel spoke from the heart once again about Obamacare. Citing his baby son’s experience with open heart surgery at Children’s Hospital Los Angeles (CHLA), Kimmel tore into Senator Bill Cassidy (R-LA), who appeared on Kimmel’s show months ago and vowed not to flunk the “Jimmy Kimmel test.” What was the Kimmel test? According to Cassidy: “Would the child born with a congenital heart disease be able to get everything she or he would need in that first year of life…even if they go over a certain amount?”

Cassidy insists that the new bill he’s pushing with Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) doesn’t violate that test – he’s saying that the bill mandates that states certify that they provide “adequate and affordable care” in order to waive certain essential health benefits mandated by Obamacare. But the test itself was fatally flawed from the first: it assumes that the government is the best venue for addressing these concerns. It isn’t. Medicaid coverage, which expanded dramatically under Obamacare, does not guarantee that a baby will get everything the baby needs in the first year of life – supplemental charity at hospitals like Children’s Hospital of Los Angeles, where Kimmel’s son received his surgery, does. In fact, many patients at CHLA are illegal immigrants, who aren’t covered by Medicaid at all. The big question isn’t government-sponsored coverage, but bringing down the prices of health care and health insurance through competition.

In fact, President Obama’s signature health plan doesn’t pass the Kimmel Test either, as even Vox.com acknowledges.

That’s Cassidy’s mistake for buying into the Leftist model of health care provision.

But Kimmel didn’t stop there. Instead, he invoked his son’s health situation to suggest socialized medicine as a solution. He explained:

I am politicizing my son’s health problems, because I have to … somehow Japan and England and Canada and Germany, France, they all figured health care out, and don’t say they have terrible health care, because it’s just not true.

To ignore the health care cost and rationing problems in France and England and Canada and Germany and Japan is simply ignorant.

But Kimmel's argument is absurd on every level.

It’s absurd on a logical level: having a child with a heart condition doesn’t make you an expert on health care anymore than it makes you an expert on heart surgery. I should know – as I’ve said before (and only in response to Kimmel’s invocation of his own son), my daughter received open heart surgery at a year-and-a-half old at CHLA, at the hands of the same magnificent doctor Kimmel used. So by this logic, my opinion should be treated with precisely the same kind of moral weight Kimmel’s is. But I don’t think that the fact that my daughter had her heart fixed at CHLA is what grants me credibility to talk about health care. Reading health care law does. Studying health insurance schemes does. Speaking with my wife, who works inside that health care system as a doctor (including at CHLA from time to time) and thus knows the system from the inside, does.

Kimmel’s invocation of his son is also absurd on a moral level: Kimmel’s son didn’t lack health care. Neither would anyone else who needed surgery at CHLA. That’s because CHLA is a charity hospital with an endowment of hundreds of millions of dollars. Emergency heart surgery is not denied to babies based on ability to pay. The cost may just be extraordinary on the other end. Dr. Vaughn Starnes, the doctor who operated on both our children, isn’t in the business of denying dying babies surgery because their parents lack coverage. That would be true whether the parents picked up the check or the hospital did or the state did. Cost allocation is not the same thing as treatment availability.

But emotional appeals do big business in politics. So Kimmel has been granted outsized authority on an issue upon which he admits he has little expertise. That’s foolish of the media, foolish of the American people, and foolish of Kimmel.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-09-24   1:44:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: nolu chan (#8) (Edited)

Cost allocation is not the same thing as treatment availability. < <

Obama bragged about how many more people were now covered under the expanded M Medicaid. Millions. Tens of millions. Boy, what a great President.

The truth is that a large number of doctors are no longer treating Medicaid patients because they lose money on the paltry government reimbursements. Meaning, in s some areas there are no doctors to see a Medicaid patient. So what good it that coverage?

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#14. To: misterwhite (#13)

The truth is that a large number of doctors are no longer treating Medicaid patients because they lose money on the paltry government reimbursements. Meaning, in s some areas there are no doctors to see a Medicaid patient. So what good it that coverage?

None at all.

And Medicare doctors are limiting the number of new Medicare patients they take. You cannot change to a new doctor and see him until he accepts you as a Medicare patient, if you have Medicare. You cannot use other insurance or pay out of pocket. I had to wait three months to change to the doctor I wanted.

As for Obamacare crap, what good is a policy with a $6,000 or $7,000 deductible to a person does not have the $6K?

It was designed to get people hooked on government welfare, to econonomically fail, and to drive the country into single payer.

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#15. To: nolu chan (#14)

As for Obamacare crap, what good is a policy with a $6,000 or $7,000 deductible to a person does not have the $6K?

It's really catastrophic insurance with all-inclusive premiums. Only the government could get away with that.

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#22. To: misterwhite (#15)

Only the government could get away with that.

Well, they did have the help of insurance lobbyists in writing it.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-09-24 17:27:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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