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User Submitted Article Title: A Conversation With God Greatly disturbed by what was happening here, yet not wanting to leave so many people behind after having conversed with them over so many years, I tried to work it out myself in successive posts to the board. That only made things worse, so I walked away. Unable to figure it out for myself I turned to God. I asked him to tell me what to say. He answered me, saying: “Not yet. You still want to win.” So I waited. Yesterday, I started to get the answer. Here it is. (1) I TOLD YOU TO LISTEN TO JESUS. “You are my beloved son, in you I delight.” (Lk 3:22; Mk 1:11) “This is my son, the beloved, in whom I delight.” (Mt 3:17) “Lo, My Boy Whom I prefer! My Beloved, in whom my soul delights! I shall be placing my spirit on him, and he shall be reporting judging to the nations. He will not be brawling nor clamoring, nor will anyone be hearing his voice in the squares. A reed that is bruised He will not be fracturing, and flax that is smoldering he will not be extinguishing till he should ever be casting out judging for victory.” (Mt 12:20) And a voice came out of the cloud saying, "This is my son, the chosen; Listen to him." (Lk 8:35) And there came a cloud overshadowing them. And a voice came out of the cloud, saying, "This is my son, the beloved. Hear him!” (Mk 9:7) While he is still speaking, lo! a luminous cloud overshadows them, and lo! a voice out of the cloud, saying, "This is my son, the beloved in whom I delight. Hear him!" (Mt 17:5) Ok, I’m listening. What does Jesus say? (2) FOLLOW JESUS. "What are you seeking?".. "Come and see." (Jn 1:38-39) "Follow me.” (Jn 1:43) "Follow me!" (Mk 2:14) "Follow me." (Lk 5:27) "Follow me!" (Mt 9:9) "Follow me!" (Lk (9:59) "Hither! After me, and I will make you become fishers of men!" (Mk 1:17) "Hither! After me, and I will be making you fishers of men!" (Mt 4:19) "Be following me, and leave the dead to entomb their own dead." (Mt 8:22) “…And hither! Follow me.” (Lk 18:22) “…And hither! Follow me, picking up the cross." (Mk 10:21) And hither! Follow Me." (Mt 19:21) "Verily, I am saying to you, that you who follow me, in the renascence whenever the son of mankind should be seated on the throne of his glory, you also shall sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.” (Mt 19:28)" "Let not your heart be disturbed. Believe in God, and believe in me. (Jn 14:1) "I am the Way and the Truth and the Life. No one is coming to the Father except through me. (Jn 14:6) “The spirit of the Lord is on me, on account of which he anoints me to bring the good news to the poor. He has commissioned me to heal the crushed heart, to herald to captives a pardon and to the blind the receiving of sight: to dispatch the oppressed with a pardon. (Lk 4:18) “Hither to me, all who are toiling and laden, and I will give you rest. Lift My yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am meek and humble in heart, and you shall be finding rest in your souls, for my yoke is kindly and my load is light." (Mt 11:28-30) “It is written in the prophets: ‘And they shall all be taught of God.’ Everyone, then, who hears from the Father and is learning truth, is coming to me.” (Jn 6:45) "My teaching is not mine, but His who sends me. If anyone should be wanting to be doing His will, he will know concerning the teaching, whether it is of God or I am speaking from myself. He who is speaking from himself is seeking his own glory, yet he who is seeking the glory of Him who sends him, this one is true, and injustice is not in him.” (Jn 7:16-18) "If anyone should be serving me, let him be following me, and where I am, there my servant also shall be. And if anyone should be serving me, the Father shall be honoring him. (Jn 12:26) "He who is believing in me is not believing in me, but in him who sends me.” (Jn 12:44) "I am the light of the world. He who is following me should under no circumstances be walking in darkness, but will be having the light of life." (Jn 8:1) To Pontius Pilate: "You are saying that I am a king. For this also have I been born, and for this have I come into the world, that I should be testifying to the truth. Everyone who is of the truth us hearing my voice." (Jn 18:37) “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Origin and the Consummation.” (Rv 22:13) Ok, Lord. You could not possibly have made that any clearer. You’ve really beaten that one in – I am to follow Jesus. He is the first and the last, the Alpha and the Omega, and nobody comes to the Father except through him. Got it. But what does following Jesus MEAN? (3) KEEP JESUS' COMMANDMENTS! "It is written, 'Not on bread alone shall man be living, but on every declaration going out through the mouth of God.'" (Mt 4:4) "It is written that, 'Not on bread alone shall man be living, but on every declaration of God.'" (Lk 4:4) "If anyone is wanting to come after me, let him renounce himself and pick up his cross and follow me. (Mt 16:24) "If anyone is wanting to come after me, let him renounce himself and pick up his cross and follow me. (Mk 8:34) "If anyone is wanting to come after me, let him disown himself and pick up his cross daily and follow me. (Lk 9:23) "Now why are you calling me 'Lord, Lord,' and not doing what I say? Everyone coming to me and hearing my words and doing them - I shall be intimating to you whom he is like. He is like a man building a house, who digs and deepens, and places the foundation on a rock. Now, at an inundation occurring, the river bursts through to that house, and it is not strong enough to shake it, because it is ideally built. Now he who hears, and does not, is like a man building a house on the earth without a foundation, to which the river bursts through, and straightway it collapses; and the crash of that house came to be great." (Lk 6:46-49) “Not everyone saying to me ‘Lord! Lord!’ will be entering into the kingdom of the heavens, but he who is doing the will of My Father Who is in the heavens. Many will be declaring to me in that day, 'Lord! Lord! Was it not in your name that we prophesy, and in your name cast out demons, and in your name do many powerful deeds?’ And then shall I be avowing to them that I never knew you! Depart from me, workers of lawlessness! (Mt 7:21) "Everyone, then, who is hearing these sayings of mine and is doing them shall be likened to a prudent man who builds his house on the rock. And the rain descended, and the rivers came, and the winds blow and they lunge at that house, and it does not fall, for it had been founded on the rock. And everyone who is hearing these sayings of mine and not doing them shall be likened to a stupid man who builds his house on sand. And the rain descended, and the rivers came, and the winds blow and they dash against that house, and it falls: and the fall of it was great." (Mt 7:24-27) “And he who is not taking his cross and following after me is not worthy of me.” (Mt 10:38) “The spirit is that which is vivifying. The flesh is not benefiting anything. The declarations which I have spoken to you are spirit and are life. But there are some of you who are not believing." (Mt10:63-64) "If ever you should be remaining in my word, you are truly my disciples, and you will know the truth, and the truth will be-making-you-free" (Jn 8:31-32) "And if ever anyone should be hearing my declarations and not be maintaining them, I am not judging him, for I came not that I should be judging the world, but that I should be saving the world. He who is repudiating me and not getting my declarations, has that which is judging him; the word which 1 speak, that will be judging him in the last day.” (Jn 12:47-48) “You are shouting to me ‘Teacher!' and 'Lord!', and you are saying ideally, for I am. If, then, I, the Lord and the Teacher, wash your feet, you also ought to be washing one another's feet. 15 For an example have I given you, that, according as I do to you, you also may be doing. Verily, verily, I am saying to you, A slave is not greater than his lord, neither is an apostle greater than he who sends him. If you are aware of these things, happy are you if you should be doing them!” (Jn 13:13-17) He who has My commandments and is keeping them, he it is who is loving Me. Now he. who is loving Me will be loved by My Father, and I shall be loving him and shall be disclosing Myself to him.'' “If anyone should be loving me, he will be keeping my word, and my Father will be loving him, and we shall be coming to him and making an abode with him. …He who is not loving me, is not keeping my words. And the word which you are hearing is not mine, but the Father's who sends me.” (Jn 14:21, 23- 34) "I am the true grapevine, and My Father is the farmer. Every branch in me bringing forth no fruit, He is taking it away, and every one bringing forth fruit. He is cleansing it, that it may be bringing forth more fruit….Remain in me, I also am in you. According as the branch cannot be bringing forth fruit from itself, it should not be remaining in the grapevine, thus neither you, if you should not be remaining in me. I am the grapevine. You are the branches. He who is remaining in me, and I in him, this one is bringing forth much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing. If anyone should not be remaining in me, he was cast out as a branch, and it withered. And they are gathering them, and into the fire are they casting them, and they are being burned. If ever you should be rernaining.in me and my declarations should be remaining in you, whatever you should be wanting, request, and it will be occurring to you. In this is my Father glorified, that you rnay be brlnglng forth much fruit, and you shall become my disciples. According as the Father loves me, I also love you. Remain in My love. If ever you should be keeping my commandments, you will be remaining in my love, according as I have kept the commandments of my Father and am remaining in His love.” (Jn 15:1-2, 4-10) “You are my friends if you should be doing whatever I am directing you.” (Jn 15:14) Ok. Got it. To follow Jesus MEANS doing what he said, keeping his commandments, understanding that what HE said came from YOU, and are the commandments by which we are to live. You know my predicament here. What commandments of Jesus apply? What do you want me to do? Tell me what to say! (4) THIS. "But to you, who are hearing, am I saying: Love your enemies. Be doing ideally to those who are hating you. Bless those who are cursing you. Pray concerning those who are traducing you. To him who is beating you on the cheek, be tendering the other also. And you should not be preventing him who is taking away your cloak from taking your tunic also. (Lk 6:27-29) “Moreover, be loving your enemies, and be doing good, and be lending, expecting nothing from them, and your wages will be vast in the heavens, and you will be sons of the most high, for He is kind to the ungrateful and the wicked. (Lk 6:35) "Become, then, merciful, according as your Father also is merciful.” (Lk 6:36) "Blessed are the merciful, for they shall be shown mercy.” (Mt 5:7) “And be not judging, and under no circumstances may you be judged; and be not convicting, and under no circumstances may you be convicted; be releasing, and you shall be released; be giving, and it shall be given to you: a measure ideal, squeezed down and shaken together. And running over, shall they be giving into your bosom. For the same measure with which you are measuring will be measured to you again.” (Lk 6:37-38) “Do not judge, lest you may be judged, for with what judgment you are judging, shall you be judged, and with what measure you are measuring, shall it be measured to you. (Mt 7:1-2) “And according as you are wanting that men may be doing to you, you also be doing to them” (Lk 6:31) “All, then, whatever you should be wanting that men should be doing to you, thus you, also, be doing to them, for this is the law and the prophets.” (Mt 5:12) "The blind cannot guide the blind. Will not both be falling into a pit?” (Lk 6:39) “Now why are you observing the mote in your brother's eye, yet the beam in your own eye you are not considering? Or how can you be saying to your brother, 'Brother, let me extract the mote in your eye,' observing not, yourself, the beam in your eye? Hypocrite! Extract first the beam out of your eye, and then you will be keen-sighted to be extracting the mote in your brother’s eye.” (Lk 6:41-42) 45 "The good man out of the good treasure of his heart is bringing forth that which is good, and the wicked man out of the wicked treasure of his heart is bringing forth that which is wicked, for out of the superabundance of the heart his mouth is speaking.” (Lk 6:45) "You hear that it was declared to the ancients, 'You shall not murder.' Yet whoever should be murdering shall be liable to the judging. Yet I am saying to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be liable to the judging. Yet whoever may be saying to his brother, 'Raka!' shall be liable to the Sanhedrin. Yet whoever may be saying, 'Stupid!' shall be liable to the Gehenna of fire. If, then, you should be offering your approach present on the altar, and there you should be reminded that your brother has anything against you, leave your approach present there, in front of the altar, and go away. First be placated toward your brother, and then, coming, be offering your approach present.” (Mt 5:21-14) “Thus, then, you be praying: 'Our Father, who art in the heavens, hallowed be Thy name…And remit to us our debts, as we also remit those of our debtors.” (Mt 6:9,12) “For if you should be forgiving men their offenses, your heavenly Father also will be forgiving you. Yet if you should not be forgiving men their offenses, neither will your Father be forgiving your offenses.” (Mt 6:14-15) "Simon, I have something to say to you." ..."Two debtors paying usury were owing a certain creditor. The one owed five hundred denarii, yet the other fifty. Now, they having nothing to pay, he deals graciously with both. Which of them, then, will be loving him more?" Simon replied, "I suppose the one who had the bigger debt forgiven." Jesus said, "Correctly do you decide." Then he turned toward the woman and said to Simon, "Are you observing this woman? I entered into your house; water for my feet you do not give, yet she rains tears on my feet and with her hair she wipes them off. A kiss to me you do not give, yet she, from the time I entered, did not intermit fondly kissing my feet; with oil my head you do not rub, yet she with attar rubs my feet; on behalf of which, I am saying to you, pardoned are her many sins, for she loves much. Now to whom there is scant pardoning, there is scant loving." (Lk 7: 40-47) "You hear that it was declared, 'An eye for an eye,' and 'A tooth for a tooth.' Yet I am saying to you not to withstand a wicked person, but anyone who slaps you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also. And he who wants to sue you and obtain your tunic, leave him your cloak also. And anyone who conscripts you one mile, go with him two. To him who requests you, give; and from him who wants to borrow from you, you may not tum.” (Mt 38-42) "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God” (Mt 5:9) "Beware what you are hearing! With what measure you are measuring, it will be measured to you, and it will be added to you. For he who has, it shall be given to him; and he who has not, even what he has shall be taken away from him." (Mk 4: 24-25) “Now why are you observing the mote that is in your brother's eye, yet the beam in your eye you are not considering? Or how will you be declaring to your brother, 'Brother, let me extract the mote out of your eye, and lo! the beam is in your eye? Hypocrite! Extract first the beam out of your eye, and then you will be keen-sighted to be extracting the mote out of your brother's eye.” (Mt 5:3-5) “You hear that it was declared, 'You shall be loving your associate' and you shall be hating your enemy. Yet 1 am saying to you. Love your enemies, and pray for those who are persecuting you, so that you may become sons of your Father who is in the heavens, for He causes His sun to rise on the wicked and the good, and makes it rain on the just and the unjust. For if ever you should love those who are loving you, what wages have you? Are not the tribute collectors also doing the same? And if ever you should greet your brothers only, what are you doing that is excessive? Are not those of the nations also doing the same? You, then, shall be perfect as your, heavenly Father is perfect. (Mt 5:43-48) "Either make the tree ideal and its fruit ideal, or make the tree rotten and its fruit rotten, for by its fruit the tree is known.” (Mt 12:33) Perfect, Lord? Be perfect? (5) YES. Then, approaching, Peter said to Him, "Lord, how many times shall my brother he sinning against me and I shall be pardoning him? Till seven times?"[Jesus replied]... "I am not saying to you 'Till seven times,' but 'Till seventy times and seven. Therefore likened was the kingdom of the heavens to a man, a king, who wants to settle accounts with his slaves. Now, at his beginning to settle, one debtor was brought to him who owed ten thousand talents. Now, at his not having wherewith to pay, the lord orders him to be disposed of, and his wife and children and all, whatever he has, and payment to be made. Falling down, then, that slave worshiped him, saying, Lord, be patient with me, and I will pay you all! Now, having compassion, the lord of that slave dismisses him, and remits his loan. Yet, coming out, that slave found one of his fellow slaves, who owed him a hundred denarii, and, holding him, he choked him, saying, 'Pay, if you are owing anything!" Falling down, then, his fellow slave entreated him, saying, 'Be patient with me, and I will pay you all!' Yet he would not, but, coming away, he casts him into jail, till he may pay what he is owing. Then his fellow slaves, perceiving what is occurring, were tremendously sorry and coming, they elucidate to their lord all that is occurring. Then his lord, calling him to him, is saying to him, 'Wicked slave! That entire debt I remit to you, since you entreat me. Was it not binding on you also to be merciful to your fellow slave, as I also am merciful to you?' And, being indignant, his lord gives him up to the tormentors till he mav pay all he is owing him. Thus shall My heavenly Father also be doing to you, if each one should not be pardoning his brother, from your hearts.” (Mt 18:21-35) "Whenever you may be praying, be saying, 'Our Father, Who art in the heavens, hallowed be Thy name! Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, on earth also…And pardon us our sins, for we ourselves also are pardoning everyone who is owing us."(Mt 11:2,4) "Blessed indeed, then, are those who are hearing the word of God and maintaining it!" (Mt 11:28 “For everyone exalting himself shall be humbled, and humbling himself shall be exalted." (Lk 14:1) “Take heed to yourselves. Yet if your brother should be sinning, rebuke him, and if he should ever indeed repent, forgive him. And if he should ever be sinning against you seven times a day, and if he should ever be turning about seven times a day to you, saying '1 am repenting,' you shall be forgiving him." (Lk 17:3) “And whenever you may be standing praying, be forgiving, if you have anything against anyone, that your Father also, Who is in the heavens, may be forgiving you your offenses. Now if you are not forgiving, neither will your Father Who is in the heavens be forgiving your offenses." (Mk 11:26) "A new commandment am I giving you, that you be loving one another; according as I love you, that you also be loving one another. By this all shall be knowing that you are my disciples, if you should be having love for one another." (Jn 13:34-35) "This is my commandment, that you be loving one another, according as I love you.” (Jn 15:12) “In these things I am directing you, that you may be loving one another.” (Jn 15:17) “These things have I spoken to you that in me you may have peace…” (Jn 16:33) “Peace to you!” (Jn 20:19) “Now this He is saying Who is holding the seven stars in his right hand. Who is walking in the midst of the seven golden lampstands: ‘I am aware of your acts, and your toil, and your endurance, and that you cannot bear evil men, and you try those saying that they thernselves are apostles, and they are not, and you found them false; and you have endurance, and you bear because of my name, and are not wearied. But I have against you that you leave your first love. Remember, then, whence you have fallen, repent, and do the former acts. Yet if not, I am coming to you, and shall be moving your lampstand out of its place, if ever you should not be repenting.” (Rv 2:5) "Lo! I am coming swiftly, and my wage is with me, to pay each one as his work is. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Origin and the Consummation. Blessed are those who are rinsing their robes, that it will be their license to the log of life, and they may be entering the portals into the city.” (Rv 22:14) I have seen the City, from below and afar. It is beautiful. I want to see it again. Given all of the above, what I can I do but apologize – to all of those here to whom I have shown smugness and arrogance and condescension – to paraclete and Liberator, and byeltsin; and to those to whom I have played the game of “eye-for-an-eye” – Mr White and others I do not remember by name, but I know there have been many, perhaps all. And then to A K A Stone, my brother in Christ. Will they know we are Christians by our love? Or will they know we are Christians by the way we tear each others’ throats out? We must not do that anymore. It is not right. In truth, having just been utterly spanked by God, I cannot recall what it was we were fighting about. I do know that we should not resume where we left off. At least I can’t. Peace to all of you. Have a good weekend. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Comments (1-159) not displayed.
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"Absence of worship" OR..."Disobedience" of His laws? And NOT being perfect? Are there not civil penalties in this physical world for disobeying man's law? It may either be the the penalty of law that deters one, OR respect of it. Serious question: Have you ever sinned? (And I am assuming you know the definition of "sin"...) Q2: Would you drink a gallon of pure distilled H2O with just a single drop of toxic solvent mixed in? The Kingdom of God is reserved ONLY for the pure. The sin-less. NO man in history has been sin-less by himself. Save for one.
When you're shivering at the North Pole in nothing a banana hammock (sorry for the visual, everyone), uh yeah. IT IS. "ABSENCE OF HEAT." cold" is: the lower relative measurable temperature compared to a higher measurable temperature. This means "cold" can be ANYWHERE on the temperature spectrum from absolute zero K degrees to infinity -1 K degrees. You know what else is relative?? EVERYTHING. (If that's the game one wants to play. Including "Good" and "Evil".)
Excellent observation.
What's this WE shit? Don't include me in your stupidity. This "WE" shit struck a nerve I see. Kindly Allow me to clarify... Your prodigious work in psychology doesn't make you any more superior to others -- much less a Psychologist-demigod. The truth of the matter is that your earthly opinions and work -- what you'd consider your "legacy" -- will eventually devolve into irrelevance, and your physical body devolves into dust. That's not "stupid," it's fact. Math. Science. Life/Death. Fair/Unfair. Whatever. THE one thing that WILL survive the present physical dimension will be RLK's "essence," better known as your "soul" in another world of Reality. "Stupid" is disregarding the obvious: YOU WERE CREATED. WITH PURPOSE. An author/manufacturer/creator exists. An Owners Manual exists. It explains the Creator-God's Purpose -- as well as wisdom dispensed for living in THIS world as well as the NEXT. To believe the Almighty would create man, our sentience, and his every working cell with a purpose -- but keep man in the dark about OUR purpose here on earth in our respective lives is IL-LOGICAL. "Wisdom" is acknowledging the Creator, respecting the Word of God, and learning/obeying His instructions for the Afterlife.
And despite receiving them, you're still lost. "Justice" in the Afterlife is not a matter of how YOU or I define it, wishful thinking, or any "Code." Do you ever ask yourself: "Will I mind darkness eternity?" "If there is a God, was I 'good' enough to walk through Heaven's Gates?" And you'd better be more right about THIS final question and answer than any in your life. This is for ALL the marbles. There will be no "do-over." I have been praying that you and others see the light before The End. That now said, I will no longer be expounding on the matter to you gentleman.
And despite receiving them, you're still lost. According to you, and people like you attempting to subdue rational questions with chronic threats.
If I have, it was a mistake and nothing I take pride in. One of the greatest sins anyone can commit is the failure to confront irrationality.
Thumbs up.
buckeroo: "cold" is: the lower relative measurable temperature compared to a higher measurable temperature. This means "cold" can be ANYWHERE on the temperature spectrum from absolute zero K degrees to infinity -1 K degrees. So you chose to use the human body to measure relative temperature. But you confined your quote to "cold" as though the condition is somehow making your argument. Why didn't you use "hot?" Whether too cold or too hot, the human body will perish as there are limits to survivable temperature. Your point FAILS once again.
Yes all too common. It all goes back to Eden. They thought they knew better or "enough." After the fall Adam and Eve fashioned their own coverings of fig leaves. Which was replaced by God's provision of animal skins. The human effort factor of salvation has been error since Genesis chapter 3.
Wow someone did a job on you at some point in your life. The good news is grace and mercy. Now of course it is not about fear to coerce someone into religious living. You are right that is probably the common denominator for man's version of religion but it is not God's design for salvation. In group dynamics you can observe two types of performing teams. One type usually from fear and another from loyalty. The first may get great results in the short term but is toxic. The second operates from trust and faith based on demonstrated evidence..The word matches the deed and the promise is kept. Biblical Christianity operates from loyalty.
Bingo! One either operates from fear or loyalty.
Biblical Christianity operates from wishful fantasy and speculation.
I'm in awe of your two dimensional thinking. /s
I'm in awe of your two dimensional thinking. Is two dimensional thinking listed in the DSM or the pathology texts. Or is it a new mental diagnostic category you holy rollers made up to hide behind when you're backed into a corner?
So you didn't support the founding fathers when they put freedom of religion in the constitution. During the cold war did you side with the atheists in the Soviet Union or the American Christians?
I have always been disgusted with radical socialism and communism. It is a form of highly rationalized thievery by aggressive mental defectives. That being said, I find the logical slippage and authoritarianism among many religious people to be just as corrupt and similar to socialism/communism. They insist on beating me into submission with it because they have nothing else. I believe in religious freedom. It does not include islam. I am religious. I strongly believe in psychoanalitic logical positivism realism and subscribe to Bushido as it originally existed. You leave me alone and I'l leave you alone. But don't come beating me over the head with baseless irrational mythology.
How so? Maybe they see your posts on here and see you are a decent person. They or me or whoever cares about people. So perhaps it is an act of love, in wanting you to also be saved. That doesn't make them bad does it? They really aren't beating you are they?
It is not really a religion in the Western sense. It is a totalitarian cult that enforces its edicts through violence and allows no free choice about whether to leave the cult. Islam should not be allowed to enjoy the protected status of a religion in America until this is changed demonstrably.
No Robert just an observation. Also, very difficult to be backed into a corner when nothing is facing you. Your assertions amount to "did not" and shoulder shrugging. It is apparent you do not want to converse, and that's fine.
I suppose that you don't have a response to my earlier post. You FAIL.
In truth, having just been utterly spanked by God, I cannot recall what it was we were fighting about. I do know that we should not resume where we left off. At least I can’t. Peace to all of you. Have a good weekend. Oh Vic brother in Christ. I love you but you are full of errors. Not that I know everything.
I don't love you. And the reason I don't is because the way you, and VxH, and Too Conservative you Christians, talk to me, and about me, is not love. It's abuse. You choose to call it love, because your religion and your god let you abuse anybody who doesn't believe the same thing you believe and call it "love". It isn't love. It's hatred hypocritically called love - Christian love. It has succeeded, over time, in building up a great deal of resentment, which finally reached a critical mass yesterday with VxH's attacks on my father and on me. That's Christian Love the way I have experienced. I cede you the word. Your Christianity is a detestable, evil religion. Thank God that I am not a Christian. Your love is not real love, it's poisonous fruit. There's no real love on display and there never has been. Of course you hate Catholicism - children of the darkness hate the light, and people who talk like you people do are children of the darkness: I know you by your fruit. Now, is it worth it for people who manifestly hate each other, as you three (and more) clearly hate me, and have kindled a parallel hatred back at you, to continue to converse? Why? It makes a whole lot more sense to walk apart.
Here is the other thread I mentioned
Sin kills you not God.
Matthew 10:33 King James Version (KJV) 33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
I haven't denied that Jesus is the son of God. I categorically deny that what YOU call "Christianity" has anything to do with Jesus. Your rage and your teachings are from the Devil, expressed under the name of Christ. Your religion is an evil deception that screams and rages. Even your book is not like that. There is much in the Bible that is good. BUt you twiat it without any goodness, and what you produce and call "Christianity" is very nearly the opposite of Christ. So you can keep your "Christianity". I'll stick with God.
Are you saying that any of us could live forever if we did not sin?
There is a difference between your soul, and your physical life on this chit chat channel planet. Dumb shit.
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Yes. But we all sin.
What about those that you regard as patriarchs of your religious creed such as Moses, Abraham and Jesus?
Mankind has always wondered about immortality; The question is not simply relegated to the soul.
Jesus didn't sin everyone else did. Why do you ask when you already know the answer?
So how did Jesus die?
He took on the sin of the world.
So, irrespective of the source, "sin" can be a self-driven evil, correct?
I think you are incorrect but I don't know.
I acknowledge your opinion. None of us know. Thanks for being objective. You get threee gold stars, today.
Correct, it can be. In case of conscious premeditated intentional malice it might be, I guess, a unforgivable sin against Holy Spirit. But we should be careful with judging people. What appears as intentional malice, might be an expression of bitterness caused by a deep wounds and confusion. Gospel has power to cure it.
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