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Foreign Invaders crisis cost $150B in 2023, forcing some areas to cut police and fire services: report Israel kills head of Hezbollah Intelligence. Status: Not Logged In; Sign In Sports See other Sports Articles Title: The NFL is praying for a ratings turnaround Source: New York Post URL Source: http://nypost.com/2017/09/20/the-nf ... ying-for-a-ratings-turnaround/ Published: Sep 20, 2017 Author: Richard Morgan Post Date: 2017-09-21 14:34:30 by nolu chan Keywords: None Views: 13424 Comments: 56 The NFL is praying for a ratings turnaround By Richard Morgan New York Post September 20, 2017 | 10:29pm | Updated s the NFL kicks off Week 3 with “Thursday Night Football,” team owners, TV networks and Madison Avenue are hoping it can turn around an early-season ratings dip. Ratings in Weeks 1 and 2 were down 12 and 15 percent, respectively, according to Nielsen. To be sure, saturation TV coverage of Hurricane Irma sapped some eyeballs from football during the first week of play. Still, nine of the 13 NFL windows in the season-to-date posted viewership declines, Sports Media Watch reported. “Week 2 might have still been disrupted by carryover impacts from the hurricanes that hit Houston and Florida,” UBS analyst Doug Mitchelson offered by way of explanation. Jefferies analyst John Janedis drilled down further and estimated a 10 percent ratings drop for the season would cost game-carrying networks — CBS, ESPN, Fox and NBC — $200 million in lost operating income. So far, CBS has been the hardest hit in total viewers, a different measure than ratings points. Its two Sunday afternoon games averaged 13.9 million viewers — down 10 percent from last year. NBC’s three primetime games have averaged 22.1 million viewers, down 7 percent, while Fox’s four Sunday games — two in early afternoon and two in late afternoon — attracted 5 percent fewer viewers, as have ESPN’s broadcasts of “Monday Night Football.” Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest #1. To: nolu chan (#0) Ratings in Weeks 1 and 2 were down 12 and 15 percent, respectively, according to Nielsen. I thought that first week could be a fluke but that second week has to scare the owners, the coaches, maybe even the players. Are they killing the goose that has laid so many golden eggs? Their bargaining position for broadcast contracts is weakening. There can be no explaining that away. Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-21   14:56:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: Tooconservative (#1) " Are they killing the goose that has laid so many golden eggs? " Personally, I do not follow sports. I have more important things to do. More important to me anyway. After all, it is just a G A M E !!! But it sounds like they have collectively ( NFL, players, etc ) have all pissed in their bowl of Cheerios. Who cares? I don't !!! Si vis pacem, para bellum Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. Never Pick A Fight With An Old Man He Will Just Shoot You He Can't Afford To Get Hurt "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers) Stoner  posted on  2017-09-21   15:17:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: Stoner (#2) But it sounds like they have collectively ( NFL, players, etc ) have all pissed in their bowl of Cheerios. Who cares? I don't !!! Me either. Except I would love to see the meltdown if Brady and the Patriots somehow managed to win the next SuperBowl. That would be too funny. Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-21   15:34:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #4. To: nolu chan, Stoner, Deckard, AKA Stone, redleghunter (#0) The NFL is praying for a ratings turnaround Q: Is Baal in a generous mood? 8-P OR truthful headline in the alternative: 'NFL Hopes SJW Policy Ordered By NWO Overlords Doesn't Hurt Too Much' They aren't worried at all. BS headline is exactly what the PTB PR dept presumes we'd believe. What with fantasy football betting creating a whole new market and reason to watch, and the MSM keeping alive the so-called "excitement" of a sport-turned-political sledgehammer, corporate sponsors (who are also onboard the whole SJW-global agenda -- via coercion or because it advances the NWO) will be continue running their ads -- despite losing money and viewrship. As we've witnessed of SJW Late Night "Comedy," TV and movie fare that are LOSING MONEY, profits are gladly sacrificed in order to advance THE agenda(s). The last bastion to fall are professional sports. The NFL by promoting PINK MONTH (Feminizing the masculine disguised as "Cancer Awareness"), Black NFL Players demand the Commish ENDORSE "kneeling," and now baseball 'Gay Day' exposes the entire political-corporate collusion and subversive of America's traditional institutes. The memes of "White Privilege," "Toxic Masculinity," celebrating Abortion, and censorship of all speech critical of the Left's Insanity are de rigor...and gaining momentum. Scrape way the outer scab and we'll find pro-Globalist Homofascist-Atheists and Occultists leading the satanic charge of 0bama's original "Hope & Change" bearing much fruit -- ALL of it rotten and maggot-infested. Liberator  posted on  2017-09-21   15:37:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: Stoner, redleghunter (#2) (Edited) Personally, I do not follow sports. I have more important things to do. More important to me anyway....After all, it is just a G A M E !!! I'm glad that you and many others have never fallen into the "Sunday = Football-ALL-Day" trap. It really *was* a waste of time. For those of us who *have* followed sports intensely since childhood, this recent subversion of sports in the name of social engineering and brainwashing IS a big deal... You see sports like the NFL and MLB and NHL for many of us wasn't just a "Game" (though it is and was). Millions of us have shared generational sports with our dads, uncles, cousins, and brothers, our kids. It was a shared tradition for family and friends. What we *used to* watch through the exclusive lens of "sports" was "sportsmanship" and metaphor for strategic survival and manhood. What we are seeing is a sinister attempt to feminize and homosexualize our sons while making even the purity of the "sport" merely a vehicle for the advancement of racial and social "justice" and programmed self-loathing and guilt. IOW, one more giant PsyOp. Liberator  posted on  2017-09-21   15:49:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #6. To: Liberator, stoner, Deckard, AKA Stone, redleghunter (#4) They aren't worried at all. BS headline is exactly what the PTB PR dept presumes we'd believe. It is a business. They can't spin empty seats and declining viewership. The college game last week between USC and Texas, in the same stadium used by the Rams, outdrew the Rams and Charger combined. They can easily end in-game demonstrations with a 15-yard penalty strictly enforced. Two and you're gone, just like a red card in soccer. Colin Kaepernick cost the league owners a bunch of money. Attendance and ratings are still falling. Advertising revenue is tied to viewership. Rebates are given for failing to meet promised numbers. corporate sponsors ... will be continue running their ads -- despite losing money and viewrship. At a reduced rate. When viewership goes down, the ad costs less to run. That is money out of the owner's pocket. nolu chan  posted on  2017-09-21   16:03:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #7. To: Liberator (#4) de rigor Funny. Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-21   16:45:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #8. To: nolu chan (#6) (Edited) The college game last week between USC and Texas, in the same stadium used by the Rams, outdrew the Rams and Charger combined. If anything, college and HS games are more popular than ever. It's the NFL that is visibly deflating like a Tom Brady football. Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-21   16:47:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #9. To: Tooconservative (#7) Tooconservative Hilarious. I think you misspelled, "NotFoolingAnyone". Liberator  posted on  2017-09-21   16:57:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #10. To: nolu chan (#6) It is a business. Ostensibly. Technically. Leftist-slanted Network News, most of their Tee-Bee shows and Hollywood films...as well as The WNBA and NBA are also businesses -- but they are losing propositions financially. Acceptably so for years. Yet, they go on nonetheless. At a reduced rate. When viewership goes down, the ad costs less to run. That is money out of the owner's pocket. WHAT IF some unknown, undeclared entities (i.e. Globalist NWO-Elites) were subsidizing the financial loses in order that their agendae were advanced and endorsed? IS IT POSSIBLE that this is the case now? And in the future? They can't spin empty seats and declining viewership. The college game last week between USC and Texas, in the same stadium used by the Rams, outdrew the Rams and Charger combined. I'd heard of the NFL's so-called embarrassment. If NFL owners truly cared about filling seats and fan bases, the respective moves would have never been made. Because of TV revenue, merchandising, and backroom subsidizing, minimal financial hits will be taken. No, empty seats can't be spun, can they? (although, they WILL try some how, some way.) Viewership will trend a deep, dramatic decline IMO. Those not watching are hardening in their resolve. I presume that there will be a point where "ratings" like poll numbers are adjusted to maintain the illusion that viewership and fan bases aren't affected to nearly the degree it is and will be. They can easily end in-game demonstrations with a 15-yard penalty strictly enforced. Two and you're gone, just like a red card in soccer. Sure, assuming keeping the game in check to begin with was their goal, Nolu. IF they wanted the Kaep Phenomena gone to begin with. But they obviously did not. The NFL has exposed itself as an obvious tool of political and societal "Hope & Change" agenda. Kaep took the bullet and served the bigger purpose. NFL network cameras even made him a star. The NFL is now just one more (rather large) hijacked vehicle/institution of American tradition. Next on the docket: MLB. The NBA is already a lost cause. The NHL will even soon be trifled with. American Sports represents "Toxic Masculinity," the Entertainment G-Spot for generations of males, and showcase for racial cooperation. The PTB must destroy all of it in order to advance their agenda. Colin Kaepernick cost the league owners a bunch of money. Attendance and ratings are still falling. Advertising revenue is tied to viewership. Rebates are given for failing to meet promised numbers. Yes, Kaep IS helping reduce league revenue...and helping thin out the fan base herd. But MY theory as demonstrated transcends revenue, entertainment, and...THE GAME ITSELF. This is one battle fought on behalf of the Globalist-Elites who understand that national morale and all vestiges of past American tradition and nationalism that brought all demos together as friends (based on this one common alliance of liking the same team) must be crushed under its wheels of its subversive agenda. Liberator  posted on  2017-09-21   17:35:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #11. To: Liberator, Stoner, redleghunter (#5) Millions of us have shared generational sports with our dads, uncles, cousins, and brothers, our kids. It was a shared tradition for family and friends. For many, Monday Night Football introduced by Hank Williams Jr., had become a social event. nolu chan  posted on  2017-09-21   19:03:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #12. To: Liberator (#10) It is a business. Ostensibly. Technically. Actually. The owners have invested a fortune. Cities have invested a fortune in stadiums. The players are not invested. WHAT IF some unknown, undeclared entities (i.e. Globalist NWO-Elites)... WHAT IF rich, secretive aliens from Mars... If NFL owners truly cared about filling seats and fan bases None of them got rich providing a product at a loss. No, empty seats can't be spun, can they? (although, they WILL try some how, some way.) So far, they have tried claiming people tuned in to elections and weather broadcasts of hurricanes. Three hours of weather broadcast consists of a guy standing out in the wind and rain for three hours, trying to make himself heard over the wind, saying there is a lot of wind. In days of olde, the JFK assassination did not bump Sunday football off the air. I presume that there will be a point where "ratings" like poll numbers are adjusted to maintain the illusion that viewership and fan bases aren't affected to nearly the degree it is and will be. Much of baseball and basketball is pay to view, and they have 162 or 82 games. The NFL has 16 games and requires the huge TV advertising. ESPN must be singing the blues. They can easily end in-game demonstrations with a 15-yard penalty strictly enforced. Two and you're gone, just like a red card in soccer. Sure, assuming keeping the game in check to begin with was their goal, Nolu. IF they wanted the Kaep Phenomena gone to begin with. But they obviously did not. They obviously feared what would be a largely urban blowback. The owners got rid of Kaepernick, but did not plan on spawning a few dozen more Kaepernicks. The NFL has exposed itself as an obvious tool of political and societal "Hope & Change" agenda. Kaep took the bullet and served the bigger purpose. NFL network cameras even made him a star. The same people got rid of Tim Tebow and Ray Rice. Kaep would be making a fortune right now had he not opted out of his contract. The Kaep thing is just the race pimps at work, and the NFL office not knowing what to do. Network TV, ESPN, and FS1 make it seem like Kaep is oppressed. https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170215/07492036718/after-losing-10000-viewers-per-day-espn-finally-buckles-to-offering-standalone-streaming-video-service.shtml After Losing 10,000 Viewers Per Day, ESPN Finally Buckles To Offering Standalone Streaming Video Service from the swimming-upstream dept TechDirt 2/15/2017 For years now, ESPN has been the perfect personification of the cable and broadcast industry's denial regarding cord cutting. Long propped up by a system that forces consumers to buy massive bundles of largely-unwatched channels, ESPN has struggled with the rise of streaming alternatives and sleeker, "skinny" channel bundles. The sports network, which has lost 7 million viewers in just a few years, has been trying to argue that these losses (which caused Disney stock to lose $22 billion in value in just two days at one point) are simply part of some kind of overblown, mass hallucination. Last year, ESPN exec John Skipper even went so far as to suggest that these departing customers weren't worth keeping anyway: "People trading down to lighter cable packages. That impact hasn't leaked into ad revenue, nor has it leaked into ratings. The people who’ve traded down have tended to not be sports fans, and have tended to be older and less affluent. We still see people coming into pay TV. It remains the widest spread household service in the country after heat and electricity." In other words, there's "nothing to see here" -- outside of the total collapse of our entire legacy business model. At one point late last year, ESPN even went so far as to make a giant (unwarranted) stink about Nielsen data showing the cable channel had lost 621,000 homes in a single month. Things still aren't looking particularly good for the company, with Disney's earnings indicating that ESPN is fairly consistently losing about 10,000 viewers per day. That's not surprising when you see surveys indicating that 56% of subscribers would drop ESPN in a heartbeat if it meant saving the $8 per user the channel is estimated to cost consumers. [snip] It's a heck of a business model to follow. ESPN forgot that people tune into a sports network to see sports. The NFL is now just one more (rather large) hijacked vehicle/institution of American tradition. Next on the docket: MLB. The NBA is already a lost cause. For the most part, baseball is already gone from broadcast tv. Basketball is following. Roundball has advantages of not needing such a large stadium, having 82 games, and needing far fewer players. This is one battle fought on behalf of the Globalist-Elites who understand that national morale and all vestiges of past American tradition and nationalism that brought all demos together as friends (based on this one common alliance of liking the same team) must be crushed under its wheels of its subversive agenda. Nah, this is just race pimping and social justice bullshitters intruding into sports. It is an opportunity for a new generation of Jacksons and Sharptons. nolu chan  posted on  2017-09-21   19:46:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #13. To: Liberator (#4) Yep. redleghunter  posted on  2017-09-21   19:53:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #14. To: Liberator (#5) Hey maybe more people are embracing all day Sunday church and just see NFL football as a distraction. :-) redleghunter  posted on  2017-09-21   19:57:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #15. To: nolu chan (#6) It is a business and the NFL executives made some bad business decisions. The whole SJW meme was to attract more women to the game. Did not work. The women who are die hard fans like my cousins were football fans for over 20 years and hate the changes as much as the men. Plus college football always will out perform in filled seats where I live. Most of the Jerry World seats at AT&T stadium for Cowboys games are corporate vendor owned or season tickets. Regular Joes can't afford to pay for multiple games let alone season tickets. redleghunter  posted on  2017-09-21   20:02:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #16. To: Liberator (#10) Is Kapernik even on a roster this season? redleghunter  posted on  2017-09-21   20:17:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #17. To: nolu chan (#0) A bit more on the coming SJW revolution at the NFL. RedState: NFL Players Ask League to Ruin Football With Social Justice Activism, and Activism Awareness Month According to Yahoo! Sports, current and former players wrote a ten-page memo to NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell in August, urging him to use the league to endorse and financially support social justice activism revolving around race equality and criminal justice reform. The memo began by lamenting the fact that players kneeling during the national anthem has been “perceived” to be viewed so negatively because of the press: As players whom have been advocating for social justice for the past year, we appreciate the opportunity to engage with you, the league, owners, coaches and GMs to make our communities stronger. As we shared with you, the silence following our individual and collective demonstrations around the national anthem to raise awareness to racial inequality and issues surrounding criminal justice reform has been met with inconsistencies in press coverage and perceived lack of support. They also asked the NFL to officially recognize the month of November as an activism awareness month. The support will follow the same patterns the NFL takes to recognize breast cancer awareness, and military recognition. To counter the vast amount of press attention being referred to as the “national anthem protests” versus the large amount of grass roots work that many players around the league have invested their time and resources, we would like to request a league wide initiative that would include a month dedicated to a campaign initiative and related events. Similarly to what the league already implements for breast cancer awareness, honoring military, etc, we would like November to serve as a month of Unity for individual teams to engage and impact the community in their market. The memo details a timeline for their activism, plans to meet with lawmakers, community involvement, and more. The league also plans to put focus on key issues, such as “police accountability and transparency,” and “criminalizing poverty,” or that — as the memo claims — people are arrested because they’re poor. The memo was created by Seattle Seahawks defensive end Michael Bennett, Philadelphia Eagles safety Malcolm Jenkins, former Buffalo Bills wideout Anquan Boldin, and Eagles wideout Torrey Smith. Bennett and Jenkins are two players that have sat out (knelt out?) National Anthem protests in the past. According to Yahoo! Sports, the memo came after Goodell had met with several of the players in August to discuss the matter. It is currently unknown as to just how Goodell responded to the request. While criminal justice reform is a noble goal — at least many aspects of it can be noble, but not all — the introduction of politics into various parts of our culture has seen participation in that activity plummet. One need only look at the continuously falling viewership of the Emmys, and silver screen to see this. The NFL is already seeing a decline in viewership as it continues to chain itself to this cause, or that activist. ESPN, a network that used to be great for keeping up with the latest in sports news, has now become a social justice mouthpiece that is declining so badly in the ratings that they had to lay off talent by the dozens. My advice to the NFL is this: Do not engage. Just play football. That’s all we want. If players wish to engage in activism off the field, then that’s great! They can use their platform to voice whatever opinion they wish. But when we’re there to watch football, hear about football, and talk about football, the last thing we want to hear are your opinions on why you think the police are racist. Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-21   21:05:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #18. To: Stoner (#2) Personally, I do not follow sports. I have more important things to do. More important to me anyway. After all, it is just a G A M E !!! AMEN Stoner. I agree with you 100%. Maybe NFL stands for Not For Long. I do not go to church every time the doors are opened, but I love Jesus Christ. I am only human and fail Him daily. I believe Jesus is the Son of God, was born of a virgin, was crucified on a cross, died for my sins and rose from the dead and that He loves us dearly, and is faithful to forgive us of our sins. But He says that if you deny me in front of your friends I will deny you in front of my Father. Can I get an Amen! U don't know me  posted on  2017-09-21   21:36:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #19. To: nolu chan, TooConservative, Liberator (#12) SF tickets going for price of two pretzels redleghunter  posted on  2017-09-21   22:03:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #20. To: Tooconservative (#17) Goddell's days are numbered. redleghunter  posted on  2017-09-21   22:05:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #21. To: redleghunter (#19) (Edited) SF tickets going for price of two pretzels nolu already had an NFL pretzel thread today from SFgate. LF: 49ers-Rams tickets reselling for the price of two stadium pretzels I should feel bad at this news. A relative of mine was signed to play for the 49ers this year. I'll drop you a note. Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-21   22:12:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #22. To: redleghunter (#15) Plus college football always will out perform in filled seats where I live. This is very dependent on location. Around NYC, the pro game was big and the college game was non-existent. At the college level, round ball ruled. It appears the solution to the national anthem problem is to not broadcast the singing of the national anthem. nolu chan  posted on  2017-09-21   22:52:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #23. To: redleghunter, Liberator (#16) Is Kapernik even on a roster this season? No, nobody would take him. Kaepernick opted out of his contract to become a free agent. Nobody wants a mediocre quarterback with a ton of baggage. nolu chan  posted on  2017-09-21   22:58:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #24. To: nolu chan (#23) No, nobody would take him. Kaepernick opted out of his contract to become a free agent. Nobody wants a mediocre quarterback with a ton of baggage. Besides the anthem controversy, Kaepernick is said to have an older playing style that few teams still use. They've moved on to a different playing style and Kaepernick just doesn't fit well into a modern NFL offense. Only a few NFL teams would still consider him a suitable choice. But 10-20 years ago, Kaepernick would have been right in the quarterback mainstream and have all the right experience and play style to succeed. Or so I've read. Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-21   23:11:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #25. To: Tooconservative (#17) Rush talked about that today. If players wish to engage in activism off the field, then that’s great! Agree, but I wish it were on news programs and not monopolizing the time of ESPN/FS1 sports talk programs. A daily hour debate on race relations is not my idea of sports talk. They have even made football games hard to watch. A three and a half hour game just does not have all that much football time. nolu chan  posted on  2017-09-21   23:12:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #26. To: Tooconservative (#24) http://www.nfl.com/player/colinkaepernick/2495186/careerstats His Yds per Game with the 49ers were: 2016 — 186.8 2015 — 179.4 2014 — 210.6 2013 — 199.8 2012 — 139.5 2011 — 011.7 TOT — 177.8 There is no amazing production there. nolu chan  posted on  2017-09-21   23:31:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #27. To: nolu chan (#25) A daily hour debate on race relations is not my idea of sports talk. What I don't get is exactly who thinks we want to hear marginally educated multimillionaire athletes giving us low-brow rants about racial justice. Who the hell thought that was a good idea? Look at the real classy athletes like Michael Jordan and Charles Barkley. They don't lecture and harangue, they live as an example of their values and they bring people together in a positive way. I think it is far far more effective than anthem protests and racist speechifying by NFL playas. Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-21   23:41:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #28. To: nolu chan (#26) There is no amazing production there. True. The articles I read said that Kaep was good at a play style that just didn't work any more in the NFL. Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-21   23:42:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #29. To: nolu chan (#0) Not going to happen. Football fans are dying off and being replaced by soccer fans. ZZZZZ.....,ZZZZZZ. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments. sneakypete  posted on  2017-09-22   0:46:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #30. To: sneakypete (#29) Football fans are dying off and being replaced by soccer fans. I think HS and college football are as strong or stronger than ever. It's the preachy overpaid NFL that is in trouble IMO. I wouldn't mind at all if college football became bigger than a fading NFL. Actually, I'd love to see it. Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-22   0:58:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #31. To: Tooconservative (#30) I think HS and college football are as strong or stronger than ever. Maybe for the time being,but it's dying off as the public institutions go metro-sexual and can continue to push soccer. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments. sneakypete  posted on  2017-09-22   9:07:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #32. To: sneakypete (#31) Maybe for the time being,but it's dying off as the public institutions go metro-sexual and can continue to push soccer. We'll see. You are right that it is declining in some areas so maybe we're all just reporting what we see locally. Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-22   12:25:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #33. To: redleghunter, Tooconservative (#15) http://www.espn.com/nfl/game?gameId=400951568 According the the ESPN summary, Rams @ 49ers was sold out with 70K+ in attendance in a 68.5K capacity stadium. 100% Capacity: 68,500 Attendance: 70,178 71,178 attendees packed like sardines into a 68,500 capacity stadium looks like this on Youtube: nolu chan  posted on  2017-09-22   19:05:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #34. To: nolu chan (#33) I'm sure every ticket was paid for. Don't think many actually showed up. redleghunter  posted on  2017-09-22   19:16:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #35. To: nolu chan, Stoner, redleghunter (#11) For many, Monday Night Football introduced by Hank Williams Jr., had become a social event. Yup. A point NEVER discussed by ANYONE. It was about then that the NFL began losing its mojo. Hank Williams Jr. got fired for criticizing 0bama. For 8 years -- from 2007-2016 criticism of 0bama was more verboten than of Der Fuhrer from 1936-1945. Truly an amazing turnabout from Hypocrites Inc. Now consider the astronomical number of entertainers, pundits, singers, and members of the media who criticize Trump. And how many of THEM get fired. OH WAIT. What made it "cool" to bash this President? Or any Republican President (rhetorically speaking?) Liberator  posted on  2017-09-22   19:51:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #36. To: nolu chan (#12) Actually [the NFL is a business]. The owners have invested a fortune. Cities have invested a fortune in stadiums. Yes. That's why I qualified my assertion by conceding "technically." Be that as it may that cities have invested a fortune (or rather Democrat politicians have used stolen tax revenue with questionable consent to help subsidize NFL Barons), the owners' "investment" seems to be more about dancing around what is a YUGE Trophy for bored, arrogant rich guys. The players aren't invested? I guess that depends on the context. WHAT IF rich, secretive aliens from Mars... Ok, I can see you still believe in the Great Fairy Tale where the ESPN is still just a "Sports Network," and NFL is just a "game" where Pink MONTH, Michael Sam, and the whole "Let's Kaepernick Showcase His SJW" was just a coincidence. The NFL *is* exposed just a Bread & Circus tool. Whether you believe it or not. It's 50% "sport" and 50% Social Justice Tool (which makes it a partner with Globalist-Firsters Inc.) Even the military fly-overs are fake patriotism and a charade, paid for by Uncle Sam ("A Global Force For Good.") None of them [NFL owners] got rich providing a product at a loss. The past is the past. The product and cult is fully grown. Current NFL owners? After getting subsidized by sponsors, TV Networks, and possible losses underwritten by Global Agenda/SJW Inc, NFL Tycoons haven't much to worry about. The NFL has 16 games and requires the huge TV advertising. ESPN must be singing the blues. Yes. IF they and we were still in the traditional business model mode. Again -- *I* believe we have entered the next phase of societal and cultural evolution where the NFL and ESPN respective brands have been co-opted as PsyOp tools of the Elites. Why is this so difficult to accept? Entire companies, governments and churches (like the Vatican) are already transcending substance for illusion. They [the NFL] obviously feared what would be a largely urban blowback. The owners got rid of Kaepernick, but did not plan on spawning a few dozen more Kaepernicks. Brutha...THEY KNEW EXACTLY how allowing Kaep to do his thing would evolve. ESPECIALLY after the whole BLM movement got underway. That said, if "blowback" is the reason BLM and Antifa AND Kaep Inc. are enabled, then you're inferring tat certain groups and demos have carte blanche and exemption from the law or the usual expected social courtesies. Last year, ESPN exec John Skipper even went so far as to suggest that these departing customers weren't worth keeping anyway...In other words, there's "nothing to see here" -- outside of the total collapse of our entire legacy business model. Convenient narrative. I'm sure ESPN's Leftist slant, its "talent" who call out "Whitey" and the President... and awarding tranny Bruce Jenner ESPY the year after they awarded one to homo Michael Sam is also "nothing to see here." It's a heck of a business model to follow. ESPN forgot that people tune into a sports network to see sports. The *original* business model; The current one would be suicidal. The truth is, ESPN has NEVER forgotten why people tuned into it; They just thought they'd start using their influence and exposure as a SJW vehicle -- which is no different than Hollywood, TV Networks, or the Music industries. For the most part, baseball is already gone from broadcast tv. Basketball is following. Roundball has advantages of not needing such a large stadium, having 82 games, and needing far fewer players. Baseball is still thriving in the Philly/NY markets. Basketball? It's dead, Jim, and has been for many years. Nah, this is [not a battle fought on behalf of the Globalist-Elites] just race pimping and social justice bullshitters intruding into sports. It is an opportunity for a new generation of Jacksons and Sharptons. I have hardly heard either's name since Sharpton marched in the "Fry 'em Up!" demonstration that wound up revving up the same unrepentant, unchecked Antifa/BLM hate and disrespect for America we now see among NFL players, at random cities and towns, and at College campuses on a daily basis. What an odd coincidence. Liberator  posted on  2017-09-22   20:39:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #37. To: redleghunter (#14) (Edited) Hey maybe more people are embracing all day Sunday church and just see NFL football as a distraction. :-) We can hope. Like any addiction or cult, dramatic intervention is required. The NFL has unwittingly provided the catalyst. I have been watching like you for a very long time. Calling plays and penalties. Knowing the game as a coach would. HOWEVER, there did become a point at which I realized the NFL Fandom was becoming a religion...or cultist. The fetishism with which it began being presented and glorified was and is especially these days embarrassing. Imagine the same passion, scrutiny, and love for the NFL exchanged for devotion to The Lord? :-) Liberator  posted on  2017-09-22   20:53:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #38. To: redleghunter, nolu chan (#15) The whole SJW meme was to attract more women to the game. Did not work. The women who are die hard fans like my cousins were football fans for over 20 years and hate the changes as much as the men. Savvy observation on the SJW meme to attract more women to the game. At the expense of feminizing it. AND the players. Making them accessorize hot pink was beyond absurd and waaay over the top. Right...the older female fans like your cousins dislike the new SJW theme. Maybe one reason they dislike it is because they feel their intelligence is insulted over this obvious manipulation. ARE newer female/effete fans are supposed to find the feminizing of the NFL more attractive to be a fan? OR... was the supposed "marketing" ruse actually a means to an end -- calculated to making a less masculine game be more accepting to eventual open homosexuality in the NFL as well as all pro sports? (trickling down to College as well as HS??) We also watched the military become radically feminized during the 0bama-Years (Am I wrong?) Coincidence? Liberator  posted on  2017-09-22   21:04:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #39. To: nolu chan, redleghunter (#23) ("Is Kapernik even on a roster this season? ") No, nobody would take him. Kaepernick opted out of his contract to become a free agent. Nobody wants a mediocre quarterback with a ton of baggage. (Not watching, Red.) Roger that, Nolu. Kaepernick has made his point. His millions. And left his mark. It's again MY opinion that certain forces behind the scene have compensated Kaep's heavy financial losses for his "courageous stand." Liberator  posted on  2017-09-22   21:08:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #40. To: nolu chan (#0) " The NFL is praying for a ratings turnaround " Well, if they want to improve ratings, and sell a lot of tickets, why don't they just hire a bunch of street gangs from Chicago, and bring back gladiators. The gangs are killing each other now for nothing. They might as well get paid big bucks ( if they live ). Line them up on the football field to go at it with knives, spears, axes, and machete's, last ones standing get the pot of money. I can imagine the TV commentators giving the "stab by stab commentary". I bet the sports fans would love all the blood, guts, and gore. Pay Per View would go through the roof. And tickets would sell like hot cakes. Football would be extinct. WWF would be nothing. Call it NGL, National Gang League. :) Si vis pacem, para bellum Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. Never Pick A Fight With An Old Man He Will Just Shoot You He Can't Afford To Get Hurt "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers) Stoner  posted on  2017-09-22   21:43:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply         .       .       . Comments (41 - 56) not displayed. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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