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Title: The NFL is praying for a ratings turnaround
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New York Post
URL Source: http://nypost.com/2017/09/20/the-nf ... ying-for-a-ratings-turnaround/
Published: Sep 20, 2017
Author: Richard Morgan
Post Date: 2017-09-21 14:34:30 by nolu chan
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The NFL is praying for a ratings turnaround By Richard Morgan s the NFL kicks off Week 3 with “Thursday Night Football,” team owners, TV networks and Madison Avenue are hoping it can turn around an early-season ratings dip. Ratings in Weeks 1 and 2 were down 12 and 15 percent, respectively, according to Nielsen. To be sure, saturation TV coverage of Hurricane Irma sapped some eyeballs from football during the first week of play. Still, nine of the 13 NFL windows in the season-to-date posted viewership declines, Sports Media Watch reported. “Week 2 might have still been disrupted by carryover impacts from the hurricanes that hit Houston and Florida,” UBS analyst Doug Mitchelson offered by way of explanation. Jefferies analyst John Janedis drilled down further and estimated a 10 percent ratings drop for the season would cost game-carrying networks — CBS, ESPN, Fox and NBC — $200 million in lost operating income. So far, CBS has been the hardest hit in total viewers, a different measure than ratings points. Its two Sunday afternoon games averaged 13.9 million viewers — down 10 percent from last year. NBC’s three primetime games have averaged 22.1 million viewers, down 7 percent, while Fox’s four Sunday games — two in early afternoon and two in late afternoon — attracted 5 percent fewer viewers, as have ESPN’s broadcasts of “Monday Night Football.”
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September 20, 2017 | 10:29pm | Updated
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#16. To: Liberator (#10)
Is Kapernik even on a roster this season?
A bit more on the coming SJW revolution at the NFL. RedState: NFL Players Ask League to Ruin Football With Social Justice Activism, and Activism Awareness Month The memo began by lamenting the fact that players kneeling during the national anthem has been “perceived” to be viewed so negatively because of the press: They also asked the NFL to officially recognize the month of November as an activism awareness month. The support will follow the same patterns the NFL takes to recognize breast cancer awareness, and military recognition. The memo details a timeline for their activism, plans to meet with lawmakers, community involvement, and more. The league also plans to put focus on key issues, such as “police accountability and transparency,” and “criminalizing poverty,” or that — as the memo claims — people are arrested because they’re poor. The memo was created by Seattle Seahawks defensive end Michael Bennett, Philadelphia Eagles safety Malcolm Jenkins, former Buffalo Bills wideout Anquan Boldin, and Eagles wideout Torrey Smith. Bennett and Jenkins are two players that have sat out (knelt out?) National Anthem protests in the past. According to Yahoo! Sports, the memo came after Goodell had met with several of the players in August to discuss the matter. It is currently unknown as to just how Goodell responded to the request. While criminal justice reform is a noble goal — at least many aspects of it can be noble, but not all — the introduction of politics into various parts of our culture has seen participation in that activity plummet. One need only look at the continuously falling viewership of the Emmys, and silver screen to see this. The NFL is already seeing a decline in viewership as it continues to chain itself to this cause, or that activist. ESPN, a network that used to be great for keeping up with the latest in sports news, has now become a social justice mouthpiece that is declining so badly in the ratings that they had to lay off talent by the dozens. My advice to the NFL is this: Do not engage. Just play football. That’s all we want. If players wish to engage in activism off the field, then that’s great! They can use their platform to voice whatever opinion they wish. But when we’re there to watch football, hear about football, and talk about football, the last thing we want to hear are your opinions on why you think the police are racist.
AMEN Stoner. I agree with you 100%. Maybe NFL stands for Not For Long. I do not go to church every time the doors are opened, but I love Jesus Christ. I am only human and fail Him daily. I believe Jesus is the Son of God, was born of a virgin, was crucified on a cross, died for my sins and rose from the dead and that He loves us dearly, and is faithful to forgive us of our sins. But He says that if you deny me in front of your friends I will deny you in front of my Father. Can I get an Amen!
SF tickets going for price of two pretzels
Goddell's days are numbered.
nolu already had an NFL pretzel thread today from SFgate. LF: 49ers-Rams tickets reselling for the price of two stadium pretzels I should feel bad at this news. A relative of mine was signed to play for the 49ers this year. I'll drop you a note.
This is very dependent on location. Around NYC, the pro game was big and the college game was non-existent. At the college level, round ball ruled. It appears the solution to the national anthem problem is to not broadcast the singing of the national anthem.
No, nobody would take him. Kaepernick opted out of his contract to become a free agent. Nobody wants a mediocre quarterback with a ton of baggage.
Besides the anthem controversy, Kaepernick is said to have an older playing style that few teams still use. They've moved on to a different playing style and Kaepernick just doesn't fit well into a modern NFL offense. Only a few NFL teams would still consider him a suitable choice. But 10-20 years ago, Kaepernick would have been right in the quarterback mainstream and have all the right experience and play style to succeed. Or so I've read.
Rush talked about that today. Agree, but I wish it were on news programs and not monopolizing the time of ESPN/FS1 sports talk programs. A daily hour debate on race relations is not my idea of sports talk. They have even made football games hard to watch. A three and a half hour game just does not have all that much football time.
http://www.nfl.com/player/colinkaepernick/2495186/careerstats His Yds per Game with the 49ers were: 2016 — 186.8 There is no amazing production there.
What I don't get is exactly who thinks we want to hear marginally educated multimillionaire athletes giving us low-brow rants about racial justice. Who the hell thought that was a good idea? Look at the real classy athletes like Michael Jordan and Charles Barkley. They don't lecture and harangue, they live as an example of their values and they bring people together in a positive way. I think it is far far more effective than anthem protests and racist speechifying by NFL playas.
True. The articles I read said that Kaep was good at a play style that just didn't work any more in the NFL.
Not going to happen. Football fans are dying off and being replaced by soccer fans. ZZZZZ.....,ZZZZZZ. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
I think HS and college football are as strong or stronger than ever. It's the preachy overpaid NFL that is in trouble IMO. I wouldn't mind at all if college football became bigger than a fading NFL. Actually, I'd love to see it.
Maybe for the time being,but it's dying off as the public institutions go metro-sexual and can continue to push soccer. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
We'll see. You are right that it is declining in some areas so maybe we're all just reporting what we see locally.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/game?gameId=400951568 According the the ESPN summary, Rams @ 49ers was sold out with 70K+ in attendance in a 68.5K capacity stadium. Capacity: 68,500 Attendance: 70,178 71,178 attendees packed like sardines into a 68,500 capacity stadium looks like this on Youtube:
I'm sure every ticket was paid for. Don't think many actually showed up.
Yup. A point NEVER discussed by ANYONE. It was about then that the NFL began losing its mojo. Hank Williams Jr. got fired for criticizing 0bama. For 8 years -- from 2007-2016 criticism of 0bama was more verboten than of Der Fuhrer from 1936-1945. Truly an amazing turnabout from Hypocrites Inc. Now consider the astronomical number of entertainers, pundits, singers, and members of the media who criticize Trump. And how many of THEM get fired. OH WAIT. What made it "cool" to bash this President? Or any Republican President (rhetorically speaking?)
Yes. That's why I qualified my assertion by conceding "technically." Be that as it may that cities have invested a fortune (or rather Democrat politicians have used stolen tax revenue with questionable consent to help subsidize NFL Barons), the owners' "investment" seems to be more about dancing around what is a YUGE Trophy for bored, arrogant rich guys. The players aren't invested? I guess that depends on the context. WHAT IF rich, secretive aliens from Mars... Ok, I can see you still believe in the Great Fairy Tale where the ESPN is still just a "Sports Network," and NFL is just a "game" where Pink MONTH, Michael Sam, and the whole "Let's Kaepernick Showcase His SJW" was just a coincidence. The NFL *is* exposed just a Bread & Circus tool. Whether you believe it or not. It's 50% "sport" and 50% Social Justice Tool (which makes it a partner with Globalist-Firsters Inc.) Even the military fly-overs are fake patriotism and a charade, paid for by Uncle Sam ("A Global Force For Good.") None of them [NFL owners] got rich providing a product at a loss. The past is the past. The product and cult is fully grown. Current NFL owners? After getting subsidized by sponsors, TV Networks, and possible losses underwritten by Global Agenda/SJW Inc, NFL Tycoons haven't much to worry about. The NFL has 16 games and requires the huge TV advertising. ESPN must be singing the blues. Yes. IF they and we were still in the traditional business model mode. Again -- *I* believe we have entered the next phase of societal and cultural evolution where the NFL and ESPN respective brands have been co-opted as PsyOp tools of the Elites. Why is this so difficult to accept? Entire companies, governments and churches (like the Vatican) are already transcending substance for illusion. They [the NFL] obviously feared what would be a largely urban blowback. The owners got rid of Kaepernick, but did not plan on spawning a few dozen more Kaepernicks. Brutha...THEY KNEW EXACTLY how allowing Kaep to do his thing would evolve. ESPECIALLY after the whole BLM movement got underway. That said, if "blowback" is the reason BLM and Antifa AND Kaep Inc. are enabled, then you're inferring tat certain groups and demos have carte blanche and exemption from the law or the usual expected social courtesies. Last year, ESPN exec John Skipper even went so far as to suggest that these departing customers weren't worth keeping anyway...In other words, there's "nothing to see here" -- outside of the total collapse of our entire legacy business model. Convenient narrative. I'm sure ESPN's Leftist slant, its "talent" who call out "Whitey" and the President... and awarding tranny Bruce Jenner ESPY the year after they awarded one to homo Michael Sam is also "nothing to see here." It's a heck of a business model to follow. ESPN forgot that people tune into a sports network to see sports. The *original* business model; The current one would be suicidal. The truth is, ESPN has NEVER forgotten why people tuned into it; They just thought they'd start using their influence and exposure as a SJW vehicle -- which is no different than Hollywood, TV Networks, or the Music industries. For the most part, baseball is already gone from broadcast tv. Basketball is following. Roundball has advantages of not needing such a large stadium, having 82 games, and needing far fewer players. Baseball is still thriving in the Philly/NY markets. Basketball? It's dead, Jim, and has been for many years. Nah, this is [not a battle fought on behalf of the Globalist-Elites] just race pimping and social justice bullshitters intruding into sports. It is an opportunity for a new generation of Jacksons and Sharptons. I have hardly heard either's name since Sharpton marched in the "Fry 'em Up!" demonstration that wound up revving up the same unrepentant, unchecked Antifa/BLM hate and disrespect for America we now see among NFL players, at random cities and towns, and at College campuses on a daily basis. What an odd coincidence.
We can hope. Like any addiction or cult, dramatic intervention is required. The NFL has unwittingly provided the catalyst. I have been watching like you for a very long time. Calling plays and penalties. Knowing the game as a coach would. HOWEVER, there did become a point at which I realized the NFL Fandom was becoming a religion...or cultist. The fetishism with which it began being presented and glorified was and is especially these days embarrassing. Imagine the same passion, scrutiny, and love for the NFL exchanged for devotion to The Lord? :-)
Did not work. The women who are die hard fans like my cousins were football fans for over 20 years and hate the changes as much as the men. Savvy observation on the SJW meme to attract more women to the game. At the expense of feminizing it. AND the players. Making them accessorize hot pink was beyond absurd and waaay over the top. Right...the older female fans like your cousins dislike the new SJW theme. Maybe one reason they dislike it is because they feel their intelligence is insulted over this obvious manipulation. ARE newer female/effete fans are supposed to find the feminizing of the NFL more attractive to be a fan? OR... was the supposed "marketing" ruse actually a means to an end -- calculated to making a less masculine game be more accepting to eventual open homosexuality in the NFL as well as all pro sports? (trickling down to College as well as HS??) We also watched the military become radically feminized during the 0bama-Years (Am I wrong?) Coincidence?
No, nobody would take him. Kaepernick opted out of his contract to become a free agent. Nobody wants a mediocre quarterback with a ton of baggage. (Not watching, Red.) Roger that, Nolu. Kaepernick has made his point. His millions. And left his mark. It's again MY opinion that certain forces behind the scene have compensated Kaep's heavy financial losses for his "courageous stand."
Well, if they want to improve ratings, and sell a lot of tickets, why don't they just hire a bunch of street gangs from Chicago, and bring back gladiators. The gangs are killing each other now for nothing. They might as well get paid big bucks ( if they live ). Line them up on the football field to go at it with knives, spears, axes, and machete's, last ones standing get the pot of money. I can imagine the TV commentators giving the "stab by stab commentary". I bet the sports fans would love all the blood, guts, and gore. Pay Per View would go through the roof. And tickets would sell like hot cakes. Football would be extinct. WWF would be nothing. Call it NGL, National Gang League. :) Si vis pacem, para bellum Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. Never Pick A Fight With An Old Man He Will Just Shoot You He Can't Afford To Get Hurt "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers)
Well, it did start with wearing pink for breast cancer awareness month.
That gesture alone wouldn't necessarily indicate a conscious "marketing plan" would it? The SJW Propaganda/Marketing started gingerly in October...with a few pink accessories. By the end, nearly every vestige of the game and part of the uniform was hot pink -- INCLUDING First Down Markers. When other players tried wearing OTHER "colors" in tribute to OTHER cancers, the NFL fined them. Informative links (It's ending because of scandal): http://www.refinery29.com/2016/12/133074/nfl-foundation-pink-october-breast-cancer-charity https://www.si.com/thecauldron/2015/10/26/nfl-breast-cancer-month-deangelo-williams
OR..."National GangSTA League" ;-)
HA! Sounds like a great movie script. (OR REAL game covered by ESPN commentators. OR THE ACTUAL FUTURE!) True dat -- if Pay Per View it'd be a smash hit. The Roman Gladiator Days will soon be back -- along with Christians fending off lions.
This from the LATimes on the turnout for the Thursday game. There can be no doubt: even if they claim they sold 100% of their tickets, the stadium was 75% empty at kickoff between two major teams. I'd say the stadium is more like 85% empty. The picture says it all. I constrained the image here on the thread but you can click it to open a new tab/window and see it at 2048x1536, well enough to count those empty seats. Devastating. This is Kaepernick's legacy. Kind of a shame that new players for the 49ers have to suffer for what he did. But I'm going soft over those young 49ers. : ) Even at halftime, this tweet shows the stadium was still at least half empty.
His mark is a brown shitstain.
Yes, the Pretty in Pink and replacing Hank Williams, Jr. with a female was part of a deliberate marketing campaign to enlarge the NFL audience. A larger audience translates to more money per advertising minute. Women have breasts and most people have a momma. It is harder to sell a mediocre whack-job in pig socks.
This was very explicitly "reported" as attendance. Most of them came disguised as empty seats.
What I provided was the ESPN reported attendance, their characterization, not mine. How did they look at that and report 100% attendance? If the seats were sold in advance to corporate clients, what does the empty stadium say about the employee use of free tickets?
That's a damned good question. You can bet no one at ESPN will be asking that on the air. . . . Now I see Kaep's mommy is attacking Trump. Haven't these people learned by now not to wrestle the hog in his own mud wallow?
Next up: Both local teams had a night to really honor first responders. I'll watch to see if Trump tweets about them. It would be epic for Trump to use these boys to humiliate the overpaid NFL SJW playas.
Looks like kickoff time. Is there a pic at a later time of the game? Maybe most of the fans were still swilling their own cheap beer in the parking lot.
I just assumed they were facing the main home team bleachers and that the visiting team didn't turn out many supporters or something. The two schools aren't very far apart from what I gathered. They remind me of being small and very rural schools from what I see. You notice there weren't that many cops there for them to honor, probably because that's all they have locally.
Go to Sports Illustrated here: https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/09/10/49ers-rams-open-seasons-empty-stadiums-photos They have a set of shots taken at various times from the opening kickoff to the second half kickoff. Article: "Look: 49ers, Rams Open Seasons With Plenty of Empty Seats in Stadiums"
I was speaking of post #45. I know those home town games are packed. Lived in rural OK for a few years and everyone in town was at the game. All 5 pastors sitting next to each other for the 5 churches in a town of 600. 8 man football.
Praying?
Liberals are like Slinkys. They're good for nothing, but somehow they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.
#17. To: nolu chan (#0)
According to Yahoo! Sports, current and former players wrote a ten-page memo to NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell in August, urging him to use the league to endorse and financially support social justice activism revolving around race equality and criminal justice reform. As players whom have been advocating for social justice for the past year, we appreciate the opportunity to engage with you, the league, owners, coaches and GMs to make our communities stronger. As we shared with you, the silence following our individual and collective demonstrations around the national anthem to raise awareness to racial inequality and issues surrounding criminal justice reform has been met with inconsistencies in press coverage and perceived lack of support. To counter the vast amount of press attention being referred to as the “national anthem protests” versus the large amount of grass roots work that many players around the league have invested their time and resources, we would like to request a league wide initiative that would include a month dedicated to a campaign initiative and related events. Similarly to what the league already implements for breast cancer awareness, honoring military, etc, we would like November to serve as a month of Unity for individual teams to engage and impact the community in their market.
#18. To: Stoner (#2)
Personally, I do not follow sports. I have more important things to do. More important to me anyway. After all, it is just a G A M E !!!
#19. To: nolu chan, TooConservative, Liberator (#12)
#20. To: Tooconservative (#17)
#21. To: redleghunter (#19)
(Edited)
SF tickets going for price of two pretzels
#22. To: redleghunter (#15)
Plus college football always will out perform in filled seats where I live.
#23. To: redleghunter, Liberator (#16)
Is Kapernik even on a roster this season?
#24. To: nolu chan (#23)
No, nobody would take him. Kaepernick opted out of his contract to become a free agent. Nobody wants a mediocre quarterback with a ton of baggage.
#25. To: Tooconservative (#17)
If players wish to engage in activism off the field, then that’s great!
#26. To: Tooconservative (#24)
2015 — 179.4
2014 — 210.6
2013 — 199.8
2012 — 139.5
2011 — 011.7
TOT — 177.8
#27. To: nolu chan (#25)
A daily hour debate on race relations is not my idea of sports talk.
#28. To: nolu chan (#26)
There is no amazing production there.
#29. To: nolu chan (#0)
#30. To: sneakypete (#29)
Football fans are dying off and being replaced by soccer fans.
#31. To: Tooconservative (#30)
I think HS and college football are as strong or stronger than ever.
#32. To: sneakypete (#31)
Maybe for the time being,but it's dying off as the public institutions go metro-sexual and can continue to push soccer.
#33. To: redleghunter, Tooconservative (#15)
100%
#34. To: nolu chan (#33)
#35. To: nolu chan, Stoner, redleghunter (#11)
For many, Monday Night Football introduced by Hank Williams Jr., had become a social event.
#36. To: nolu chan (#12)
Actually [the NFL is a business]. The owners have invested a fortune. Cities have invested a fortune in stadiums.
#37. To: redleghunter (#14)
(Edited)
Hey maybe more people are embracing all day Sunday church and just see NFL football as a distraction. :-)
#38. To: redleghunter, nolu chan (#15)
The whole SJW meme was to attract more women to the game.
#39. To: nolu chan, redleghunter (#23)
("Is Kapernik even on a roster this season? ")
#40. To: nolu chan (#0)
" The NFL is praying for a ratings turnaround "
#41. To: Liberator, redleghunter (#38)
Savvy observation on the SJW meme to attract more women to the game.
#42. To: nolu chan, redleghunter (#41)
Well, it did start with wearing pink for breast cancer awareness month.
#43. To: Stoner (#40)
Call it NGL, National Gang League. :)
#44. To: Stoner (#40)
Line them up on the football field to go at it with knives, spears, axes, and machete's, last ones standing get the pot of money. I can imagine the TV commentators giving the "stab by stab commentary". I bet the sports fans would love all the blood, guts, and gore. Pay Per View would go through the roof. And tickets would sell like hot cakes.
#45. To: redleghunter, nolu chan (#34)
(Edited)
Thursday night football. Time for kickoff.
5:26 PM - 21 Sep 2017
#46. To: Liberator (#39)
Kaepernick has made his point. His millions. And left his mark.
#47. To: Liberator (#42)
That gesture alone wouldn't necessarily indicate a conscious "marketing plan" would it?
#48. To: redleghunter (#34)
I'm sure every ticket was paid for. Don't think many actually showed up.
#49. To: Tooconservative (#45)
There can be no doubt: even if they claim they sold 100% of their tickets, the stadium was 75% empty at kickoff between two major teams. I'd say the stadium is more like 85% empty.
#50. To: nolu chan (#49)
(Edited)
What I provided was the ESPN reported attendance, their characterization, not mine. How did they look at that and report 100% attendance?
#51. To: nolu chan (#49)
(Edited)
AZ High School Football Teams Proudly Display Their Patriotism 
#52. To: Tooconservative (#45)
#53. To: redleghunter (#52)
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#54. To: redleghunter (#52)
#55. To: Tooconservative (#53)
#56. To: nolu chan (#0)
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