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Foreign Invaders crisis cost $150B in 2023, forcing some areas to cut police and fire services: report Israel kills head of Hezbollah Intelligence. Status: Not Logged In; Sign In WORLD WAR III See other WORLD WAR III Articles Title: isn't time we put a stop to this? Source: news.com.au URL Source: http://www.news.com.au/world/asia/n ... 18ce7d1547f0159b7b2a4e3fe15fb2 Published: Sep 14, 2017 Author: paraclete Post Date: 2017-09-14 21:50:41 by paraclete Keywords: missile Views: 3661 Comments: 39 AIR raid sirens blared across Japan again today. Another North Korean missile streaked over the island nation’s skies. As startled citizens streamed into bunkers and shelters, Japan’s government went to great lengths to inform and reassure the public that it was doing everything possible to protect them. Truth is, there is very little the Japanese military can do. The launch was detected at 6.59am Japanese Standard Time. At 7.06am, the ballistic missile overflew the heavily populated island of Hokkaido. It was in Japanese air space for less than two minutes before it fell into the ocean some 2000km to the east at 7.16am. Early reports indicate it was in the air for a total of just 17 minutes, during which it reached an altitude of 770km and flew a total of 3700km. This is characteristic of the nuclear-capable HS-12 intermediate range ballistic missile (IRBM). So why did Japan’s much-hyped interceptor missiles not attempt to take it down? They probably can’t. ACTION STATIONS The North Korean missile was detected within seconds of its launch. US early warning satellites have been keeping a close watch on North Korea for some time now. And there’s an extensive network of radars in South Korea, the Sea of Japan and Japan itself on standby for just such an event. It would have taken just minutes to activate Japan’s automatic public alert system, with messages flashing up on mobile phones and recorded voices blaring over radios and televisions. Every movement of the missile would have been precisely tracked. Computers would have been rapidly number-crunching Click for Full Text! Poster Comment: I have had enough of this, I'm sure other have too, it is about time someone wacked Kim up the side of the head and said cut it out Dufus. There is supposed to be a war on terror going one, not very newsworthy these days since the US isn't leading, but isn't this terror? Just because he hasn't actually killed anyone doesn't mean it isn't terror. Clinton bombed Al Qaeda, Bush bombed the shit out of Iraq and Afghanistan, Obama bombed the shit out of Gaddaffi, and here we have Kim [playing it like he can do anything he wants Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 14. #1. To: paraclete (#0) Ignore him. He's shooting fireworks. He wants attention. Don't give it to him. Vicomte13  posted on  2017-09-14   22:05:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: Vicomte13 (#1) Ignore him. That doesn't seem to work paraclete  posted on  2017-09-15   0:02:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: paraclete (#2) Ignore him. That doesn't seem to work It does. Kim shoots fireworks. He hasn't shot one into a city. If he does that, declare war, invade and take him out. Until he does it, ignore him. Violate his airspace. Board his ships at sea and find things on them and impound them. Fly drones over North Korea that people can see. Piss him off by disregarding North Korean sovereignty and seizing their property where it's easy to get. Launch constant cyberhacks that make the North Korean use of computers problematic. Steal money from North Korean bank accounts. Essentially, anything that is outside of North Korea - take it. Take the private property of North Korean officials and their families and never give it back. Take it and spend it. Treat North Korea and North Koreans as having no property rights, no privacy rights, and North Korea as having no sovereignty. Treat North Korea the way that the American police treat little people. Instead of playing THEIR game and huffing and puffing, treat them as a law enforcement situation within America - criminals have no sovereignty and no rights, so stop according North Korea the pretense of things like borders, etc. This will make L'il Kim VERY VERY MAD. He's lawless, so deal with him lawlessly. It's fun to do so, and easy - the world is ours - and it inflicts terrible costs on him. Essentially, steal the North Korean's property wherever it is in the world, just like we take drug lords' stuff, without trial, without procedure - just use our superior technology to TAKE IT, and never give it back. L'il Kim can only respond with war, in which case HE took the step, and you kill him and fight the war. Don't let HIM provoke US to expenditures and huffing and puffing. Just take the North Korean's shit and harass them with drones and hacks and thefts and seizing ships and private back accounts. He's an aggressive criminal. It isn't criminal when the cops lie and take stuff and break it. We're the cops, so we can do whatever the fuck we want to North Korean property, and ignore North Korean rights. Kim was educated in the West. Many North Korean officials and power people have children in the West, which means that there are private money streams for elite families all over the place. Steal it all. He's lawless. We're lawful - because the cops don't have to play by the same rules. Who says we're the cops? We do. We control the rest of the world. We have the power to do it. And might makes right. That's how you deal with it. What you don't do is gear up and spend money on a shadow war that is at Kim's discretion. You just steal all of the North Korean property in the world outside of North Korea and you keep it. And you fly drones all over their country and force them to go postal over the violation of their airspace. Not good drones - cheap drones, stuff we can lose all the time. Drive the North Koreans mad with rage. If they attack, murder them. Vicomte13  posted on  2017-09-15   7:03:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #11. To: Vicomte13 (#5) This will make L'il Kim VERY VERY MAD. He's lawless, so deal with him lawlessly. It's fun to do so, and easy - the world is ours - and it inflicts terrible costs on him. Essentially, steal the North Korean's property wherever it is in the world, just like we take drug lords' stuff, without trial, without procedure - just use our superior technology to TAKE IT, and never give it back. What you are doing is casually calling for war against NK. All the things leading up to this, such as sanctions, seizures, drone flyovers and such are deliberately provocative of war, and once war has started, destroy the country and call it a day. There are 2 things very wrong with this: 1) China is aligned with NK, so if the US deliberately provokes NK into war, then China may not let NK go down alone. On the other hand, China has stated that if NK starts a war, then they WILL let NK go down alone. So all the steps you advocate may compromise China's promise of non-intervention. 2) If NK is goaded into striking first, and are made angry enough by subjecting them to all the provocations you suggest, they may well strike first by launching nuclear weapons. While they may only be able to strike one or two cities in SK or Japan before they are wiped out with a nuke counterstrike, the cost of the victory to those countries will hardly be written off with consolation about NK being "unified" assuming SK would be happy to assume control of the former NK after it has been turned into a radioactive wasteland with millions of radiation sickened refugees, not to mention dealing with their own devastation from a nuke they were hit by. And that is assuming China does NOT get involved. The object here is to not have nukes used, especially by NK but also not to use it on them as that would be bad for us, especially SK. Your provocative suggestion is, quite frankly, about the worst suggestion one could make. It is far better to accept NK as a nuke power, formally end the NK war, give a single obvious warning that any nuke attack from them will result in annihilation, and strengthen economic ties to the country. NK's economy is some 1/40th of SK's. By strengthening economic ties, they will lose their isolation and that will create a basis for political change in the country. Give them a reason to live and they won't want to die. No, it's not a perfect solution, but... there is no perfect solution. Pinguinite  posted on  2017-09-15   10:54:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #14. To: Pinguinite (#11) the cost of the victory to those countries will hardly be written off with consolation about NK being "unified It's like World War II: the British, Russians, Germans, French, Japanese and Chinese paid the brunt of the cost. The American standard of living rose dramatically any we emerged the colossus astride the world. The last world war MADE US the world hegemon, but we didn't follow up by crushing the remaining resistance, so it regrouped. North Korea is giving us the opportunity to let them provoke the end to themselves, forces China to either put up before they can win, or to back down, meaning we win without a fight. Either way we win. If NK tries go nuclear, there's a good chance we can knock their stuff down before any real damage is done. If we don't quite succeed, well, the poor Japanese and South Koreans will take a nuke hit. Japan took two in the last war, and they're doing fine. So they'll cry, clean up, rebuild, and move on. If they actually get off a nuke at the US and, say, take out San Francisco, that will be pretty terrible, but it will also mean 2 million or so fewer left wing Democrat voters. Never let a crisis go to waste. Bottom line is, we win, we win, we win, or we win. The only way we lose is if we give Kim the recognition and guarantees he wants. The rewards of war, long-term, are much greater for us than the costs of war, so we should not be in a panic to prevent it. If Kim wants to die in a war of his making, then just answer him tit-for-tat with the territorial violations and disrespectful actions. Eventually he will be shown to be the toothless bully he really is. Or he'll go postal and we'll have the chance to clean up one of the loose ends of the Cold War, and convert a Tie into a permanent victory. People always die in war - you have to break some eggs to make an omelette, apres tout. Vicomte13  posted on  2017-09-15   14:01:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 14.         There are no replies to Comment # 14. End Trace Mode for Comment # 14. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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