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Title: U.S. judge tells Christian churches they must cover abortion
Source: Life Site News
URL Source: https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/u ... -cover-abortion-in-insurance-p
Published: Sep 11, 2017
Author: Mark Hodges
Post Date: 2017-09-11 17:07:39 by redleghunter
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U.S. judge tells Christian churches they must cover abortion in insurance plan Fr. Mark Hodges l Life Site News Monday September 11, 2017

SACRAMENTO, California, September 11, 2017 (LifeSiteNews) -- A federal judge told three Christian congregations in California that they have no case in wanting to opt out of the state’s requirement that they cover abortions through their health insurance plans.

U.S. District Court Judge Kimberly Mueller upheld a 2014 requirement of the California Department of Managed Health Care (DMHC) that all employers throughout the state must pay for abortion insurance for their employees. She told the three churches that they failed to state an adequate claim.

The churches — Foothill Church in Glendora, Calvary Chapel Chino Hills in Chino, and The Shepherd of the Hills Church in Porter Ranch — sued the state in 2014 after being informed that they could not prohibit or restrict coverage for elective abortions.

The churches "believe and teach that abortion destroys an innocent human life" and "participation in, facilitation of, or payment for an elective abortion is a grave sin," according to court documents.

The DMHC reclassified abortion as “a basic health care service” in 2014 under ObamaCare, making abortion insurance a mandatory provision for all business, regardless of the employer’s sincerely held beliefs.

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#4. To: redleghunter (#0)

Normally I would say no judge has a right to tell a church anything,but once you log on as a parasitic organization that doesn't pay taxes,your independence goes out the window.

If you aren't willing to be a whore,you shouldn't ask for and take the money.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-09-12   1:07:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: sneakypete (#4)

If you aren't willing to be a whore,you shouldn't ask for and take the money.

What money are they asking for?

redleghunter  posted on  2017-09-12   17:20:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: redleghunter (#7)

If you aren't willing to be a whore,you shouldn't ask for and take the money.

What money are they asking for?

Tax breaks for being a religion,government contracts to "hep de po",etc,etc,etc.

Maybe 10 years ago when Willie Brown was the Mayor of San Francisco,he and the city council passed an ordinance that any business that had city contracts had to meet the city anti-discrimination regulations by hiring male and female homosexuals,as well as the whatevers that can't figure out what it is they like.

The Catholic Archdiocese there threw a hissy-fit at having to hire outside help that were homosexuals,instead of mostly using the Nuns that are voluntary slaves,and took it to court claiming it faced an unfair burden on them because they would lose 5 MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR IN CITY CONTRACTS unless they violated their religious beliefs.

The court ruled in favor of the city and said there was nothing that required the Catholic Church to bid on city contracts,and that they could continue to help the poor and needy on their own dime.

They caved and started paying same sex and unmarried couples the same benefits they were paying married heterosexuals.

In this case we know their faith was worth at least 5 million dollars a year to them.

And it's not just the Catholic Church. They ALL dip their beaks into the public treasury in order to get paid for doing what they should be doing anyway in order to justify their tax-free status.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-09-12   19:26:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: sneakypete (#9)

Tax breaks for being a religion,government contracts to "hep de po",etc,etc,etc.

Church members are citizens and pay taxes.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-09-12   21:51:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: redleghunter (#11)

Church members are citizens and pay taxes.

Isn't that a lot like saying "she doesn't sweat much for a fat girl."?

Church members may pay taxes,BUT CHURCHES DON'T.

Beyond that,they pull in millions from getting paid by the government to provide services they are supposed to be doing anyhow in order to justify their tax-exempt status.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-09-13   7:29:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: sneakypete, Vicomte13 (#17)

Beyond that,they pull in millions from getting paid by the government to provide services they are supposed to be doing anyhow in order to justify their tax-exempt status.

That's news to me Pete. My church does not take federal or state revenue.

Are you talking about disaster relief where 75% of the resources used come from church resources?

Or are you talking about a huge organization like Catholic Services which works hand in hand with social workers to get people on social welfare and food stamps? Because not even Catholic Services 'takes' federal or state funds to build facilities or pay for employment.

Coordinating, and supplementing services provided by state and federal entities in not accepting public funding.

This should help:

Irma Faith Groups Provide Bulk Disaster-Recovery Relief

After Harvey Please Don't Forget About Us

Convoy of Hope Disaster response and recovery

Christians-organizations-churches lead way

Loud Faith in Irmas wake

redleghunter  posted on  2017-09-14   13:37:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#31. To: redleghunter, sneakypete, Vicomte13 (#28)

Excellent links and explanation of how things really work.

I think Pete makes the same mistake many make; They conflate the scams and exemption exploitation of some church leaders and apply criticism with a broad brush to ALL of them.

The truth is, for decades both Catholic and Protestant churches have helped the needy, the poor, the sick. Without both, countless many simply would not have survived.

While growing up in Harlem in the 1930s early 1940s, the local RCC would provide clothing, food, and relief to their parishioners -- one family was my father's.

Gubmint wasn't such a big help for these LEGAL, hard-working American immigrants back then. It's wasn't until LBJ's Great Socialist Society @ mid-1960s that certain churches figured out how to incorporate tax status into personal fortunes while aiding and abetting Democrats turn the USA into a Socialist-Commie Third-World nation.

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