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Title: Random Observations on This Fresh Wanton DACA F***ery
Source: The Rude Pundit
URL Source: http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/
Published: Sep 5, 2017
Author: The Rude One
Post Date: 2017-09-08 01:50:16 by nolu chan
Keywords: None
Views: 2246
Comments: 13

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9/05/2017

Random Observations on This Fresh Wanton DACA Fuckery

1. Attorney General Jeff Sessions was practically giddy at the chance to sub for his cowardly Trumpmaster in this moment, and he was almost giggling when he read his pissy little statement that took a jackhammer to the ground underneath the feet of millions of people, many of them Americans (yeah, some of those Dreamers had kids). Like a malicious elf that just got done jacking off in the cookie cream, Sessions kept suppressing a smirk as he announced that President Tangerine Nightmare was rescinding the executive order that established the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program.

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#1. To: All (#0)

Sessions kept suppressing a smirk as he announced that President Tangerine Nightmare was rescinding the executive order that established the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program.

This bullshit about an Executive Order is everywhere. See DACA for Dummies,

It was not really an Executive Order. President Obama made a policy statement delivered in the Rose Garden that immigration action would be deferred by priority and the DACA people would always have the lowest priority, i.e., it would never happen. (Not exactly the way it was put.) The President did not implement the policy with an Executive Order, the DHS Secretary did that with a memo.

The Department of Homeland Security implemented the policy by memorandum of June 15, 2012 issued by Janet Napolitano, "Exercising Prosecutorial Discretion with Respect to Individuals; Who Came to the United States as Children."

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2012/06/15/remarks-president-immigration

The White House
Office of the Press Secretary

For Immediate Release
June 15, 2012

Remarks by the President on Immigration

Rose Garden

2:09 P.M. EDT

THE PRESIDENT: Good afternoon, everybody. This morning, Secretary Napolitano announced new actions my administration will take to mend our nation’s immigration policy, to make it more fair, more efficient, and more just -- specifically for certain young people sometimes called “Dreamers.”

These are young people who study in our schools, they play in our neighborhoods, they’re friends with our kids, they pledge allegiance to our flag. They are Americans in their heart, in their minds, in every single way but one: on paper. They were brought to this country by their parents -- sometimes even as infants -- and often have no idea that they’re undocumented until they apply for a job or a driver’s license, or a college scholarship.

Put yourself in their shoes. Imagine you’ve done everything right your entire life -- studied hard, worked hard, maybe even graduated at the top of your class -- only to suddenly face the threat of deportation to a country that you know nothing about, with a language that you may not even speak.

That’s what gave rise to the DREAM Act. It says that if your parents brought you here as a child, if you’ve been here for five years, and you’re willing to go to college or serve in our military, you can one day earn your citizenship. And I have said time and time and time again to Congress that, send me the DREAM Act, put it on my desk, and I will sign it right away.

Now, both parties wrote this legislation. And a year and a half ago, Democrats passed the DREAM Act in the House, but Republicans walked away from it. It got 55 votes in the Senate, but Republicans blocked it. The bill hasn’t really changed. The need hasn’t changed. It’s still the right thing to do. The only thing that has changed, apparently, was the politics.

As I said in my speech on the economy yesterday, it makes no sense to expel talented young people, who, for all intents and purposes, are Americans -- they’ve been raised as Americans; understand themselves to be part of this country -- to expel these young people who want to staff our labs, or start new businesses, or defend our country simply because of the actions of their parents -- or because of the inaction of politicians.

In the absence of any immigration action from Congress to fix our broken immigration system, what we’ve tried to do is focus our immigration enforcement resources in the right places. So we prioritized border security, putting more boots on the southern border than at any time in our history -- today, there are fewer illegal crossings than at any time in the past 40 years. We focused and used discretion about whom to prosecute, focusing on criminals who endanger our communities rather than students who are earning their education. And today, deportation of criminals is up 80 percent. We've improved on that discretion carefully and thoughtfully. Well, today, we're improving it again.

Effective immediately, the Department of Homeland Security is taking steps to lift the shadow of deportation from these young people. Over the next few months, eligible individuals who do not present a risk to national security or public safety will be able to request temporary relief from deportation proceedings and apply for work authorization.

Now, let's be clear -- this is not amnesty, this is not immunity. This is not a path to citizenship. It's not a permanent fix. This is a temporary stopgap measure that lets us focus our resources wisely while giving a degree of relief and hope to talented, driven, patriotic young people. It is --

Q (Inaudible.)

THE PRESIDENT: -- the right thing to do.

Q -- foreigners over American workers.

THE PRESIDENT: Excuse me, sir. It's not time for questions, sir.

Q No, you have to take questions.

THE PRESIDENT: Not while I'm speaking.

Precisely because this is temporary, Congress needs to act. There is still time for Congress to pass the DREAM Act this year, because these kids deserve to plan their lives in more than two-year increments. And we still need to pass comprehensive immigration reform that addresses our 21st century economic and security needs -- reform that gives our farmers and ranchers certainty about the workers that they'll have. Reform that gives our science and technology sectors certainty that the young people who come here to earn their PhDs won't be forced to leave and start new businesses in other countries. Reform that continues to improve our border security, and lives up to our heritage as a nation of laws and a nation of immigrants.

Just six years ago, the unlikely trio of John McCain, Ted Kennedy and President Bush came together to champion this kind of reform. And I was proud to join 23 Republicans in voting for it. So there’s no reason that we can’t come together and get this done.

And as long as I’m President, I will not give up on this issue, not only because it’s the right thing to do for our economy -- and CEOs agree with me -- not just because it’s the right thing to do for our security, but because it’s the right thing to do, period. And I believe that, eventually, enough Republicans in Congress will come around to that view as well.

And I believe that it’s the right thing to do because I’ve been with groups of young people who work so hard and speak with so much heart about what’s best in America, even though I knew some of them must have lived under the fear of deportation. I know some have come forward, at great risks to themselves and their futures, in hopes it would spur the rest of us to live up to our own most cherished values. And I’ve seen the stories of Americans in schools and churches and communities across the country who stood up for them and rallied behind them, and pushed us to give them a better path and freedom from fear --because we are a better nation than one that expels innocent young kids.

And the answer to your question, sir -- and the next time I’d prefer you let me finish my statements before you ask that question -- is this is the right thing to do for the American people --

Q (Inaudible.)

THE PRESIDENT: I didn’t ask for an argument. I’m answering your question.

Q I'd like to --

THE PRESIDENT: It is the right thing to do --

Q (Inaudible.)

THE PRESIDENT: -- for the American people. And here’s why --

Q -- unemployment --

THE PRESIDENT: Here’s the reason: because these young people are going to make extraordinary contributions, and are already making contributions to our society.

I’ve got a young person who is serving in our military, protecting us and our freedom. The notion that in some ways we would treat them as expendable makes no sense. If there is a young person here who has grown up here and wants to contribute to this society, wants to maybe start a business that will create jobs for other folks who are looking for work, that’s the right thing to do. Giving certainty to our farmers and our ranchers; making sure that in addition to border security, we’re creating a comprehensive framework for legal immigration -- these are all the right things to do.

We have always drawn strength from being a nation of immigrants, as well as a nation of laws, and that’s going to continue. And my hope is that Congress recognizes that and gets behind this effort.

All right. Thank you very much.

Q What about American workers who are unemployed while you import foreigners?

END

2:17 P.M. EDT

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https://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/s1-exercising-prosecutorial-discretion-individuals-who-came-to-us-as-children.pdf

Exercising Prosecutorial Discretion with Respect to Individuals; Who Came to the United States as Children

nolu chan  posted on  2017-09-08   1:52:16 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: nolu chan (#0)

Dreamers are Hispanics who all vote Democrat.

Therefore they are enemies.

Therefore they should be driven out of the country without mercy.

The more Democrats that you imprison on felony charges (thereby stripping them of the right to vote), drive out of the country as aliens, shoot as rioters, and catch perpetrating voter fraud through mandatory ID and shutting down "motor voter", the fewer Democrat politicians in government, and the less general fuckery from government.

Then you're left with Republican-run government, which is basically inert and useless on anything you care about, but very actively and aggressively promoting the interests of the super-rich.

So, you cut the Democrat base down by stopping illegal voting, throwing them out of the country, or having the police shoot them.

And you're left facing a crony capitalist Republcan Establishment, which will either start representing the people or has such a small real support base that they can be thrown off in a revolution and lined up en masse against the wall and shot.

Wipe both sides out and start over. Or just live with the crap we've got forever.

Because one thing's for sure - these two parties are never going to reform and never going to change.

So either mentally prepare to submit to them and forget politics, or mentally prepare to kill them all like roaches. Because you're certainly never going to actually get the government you want from either of THESE bands of parasites.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-09-08   6:37:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Vicomte13 (#2)

The heart of a murderer. Do you get lined up on along a wall and shot too. Who here should be shot and killed

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-09-08   6:45:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: A K A Stone (#3)

Who here should be shot and killed

Depends on the day.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-09-08   6:47:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: A K A Stone (#3) (Edited)

The heart of a murderer.

No, Stone, the heart of a satirist. I already said in these threads what I really think should happen: the cops involved should admit their wrongdoing, admit they abused their power, admit they don't HAVE the power to do what they did, and if they do that, they should be shown mercy.

That's my actual view: once the error is admitted and not defended, show clemency.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-09-08   7:38:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: All (#5)

That's my actual view: once the error is admitted and not defended, show clemency.

But when people double down in defense of error, treat them exactly the way the cops treat people who resist arrest: break them.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-09-08   9:47:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: nolu chan (#0)

(yeah, some of those Dreamers had kids).

But the Dreamers care being portrayed by the MSM as helpless and innocent children who came here involuntarily.

The fact is, the average age of Dreamers is 25. Their average age.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-08   10:07:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: nolu chan (#1)

Put simply, Obama directed federal agencies not to enforce our immigration laws against a defined set of illegal aliens.

He did something similar with our federal marijuana laws. That should be a Congressional decision also.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-08   10:13:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: misterwhite, Vicomte13 (#7)

[Vicomte13 #3] Dreamers are Hispanics who all vote Democrat.

[misterwhite #7] But the Dreamers care being portrayed by the MSM as helpless and innocent children who came here involuntarily.

They could all be Irish Republicans and it would not matter. There are no Dreamers. The Dream Act failed in Congress every time it was tried. There are illegal alien pretenders.

Oh heck, read the memo, and the criteria:

  • I am setting forth how, in the exercise of our prosecutorial discretion, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) should enforce the Nation's immigration laws against certain young people who were brought to this country as children and know only this country as home.

    and,

  • came to the United States under the age of sixteen.

Because, you see, chilluns who came here under the age of sixteen know only this country as home. How does it come to pass that a yute who leaves Mexico at fifteen never knew anyplace but the United States as home?

What I really do not understand is why so many of these yutes, who have never known anywhere but the United States as home, defecate and urinate upon the American flag, and love to wave the Mexican flag around.

And the last part of the implementing memorandum,

  • This memorandum confers no substantive right, immigration status or pathway to citizenship. Only the Congress, acting through its legislative authority, can confer these rights.

    As DACA conferred NO SUBSTANTIVE RIGHT or immigration status to anyone, taking away DACA will take away NO substantive right or immigration status from anyone.

    As only the Congress, through its legislative authority, can confer such rights, and it has not done so, such rights do not exist. So called Dreamers dream about Congress passing a Dream Act, not about a non-existent post-passage paradise.

    As illegal aliens, with no municipal status whatever, they are entitled to very few rights. Essentially, they are entitled to basic human rights.

    https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/149/698/case.html

    U.S. Supreme Court

    Fong Yue Ting v. United States, 149 U.S. 698 (1893)

    Fong Yue Ting v. United States

    Nos. 1345, 1346, 1347

    Argued May 10, 1893

    Decided May 15, 1893

    149 U.S. 698

    APPEALS FROM THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE UNITED STATES

    FOR THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK

    Syllabus

    The right to exclude or to expel aliens, or any class of aliens, absolutely or upon certain conditions, in war or in peace, is an inherent and inalienable right of every sovereign nation.

    In the United States, the power to exclude or to expel aliens is vested in the political departments of the National Government, and is to be regulated by treaty or by act of Congress, and to be executed by the executive authority according to the regulations so established, except so far as the Judicial Department is authorized by treaty or by statute, or is required by the Constitution, to intervene.

    The power of Congress to expel, like the power to exclude, aliens, or any specified class of aliens, from the country, may be exercised entirely through executive officers; or Congress may call in the aid of the Judiciary to ascertain any contested facts on which an alien's right to remain in the country has been made by Congress to depend.

    Congress has the right to provide a system of registration and identification of any class of aliens within the country, and to take all proper means to carry out that system.

    The provisions of an act of Congress, passed in the exercise of its constitutional authority, must, if clear and explicit, be upheld by the courts, even in contravention of stipulations in an earlier treaty.

    [...]

    nolu chan  posted on  2017-09-08   14:52:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


    #10. To: misterwhite (#8)

    [misterwhite #8] Put simply, Obama directed federal agencies not to enforce our immigration laws against a defined set of illegal aliens.

    Technically, Obi-wan simply used the Rose Garden to tell the press that "[t]his morning, Secretary Napolitano announced new actions my administration will take to mend our nation’s immigration policy...." It was Janet Napolitano who announced the new immigration policy.

    Without a substantive change to the 14th Amendment or naturalization law, illegal aliens can never qualify to become citizens, as they share a similar impediment as that of freed Blacks of the 1860's.

    Naturalization is restricted to aliens, lawfully present in the United States. The freed Blacks were not aliens. They were persons, born in the United States (or future children would be), and subject to its jurisdiction. The 14th Amendment was curative. The illegal aliens are not lawfully present in the United States. Staying here does not change their immigration status. They remain not lawfully present and ineligible for naturalization. Obi-wan lacked the authority to change naturalization law.

    Trump was 100% correct that the only current path to citizenship is to leave the country and return legally.

    nolu chan  posted on  2017-09-08   14:54:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


    #11. To: nolu chan (#9)

    There are 800,000 of these illegals, and articles say 90% of them have jobs. That's 720,000 Americans who could have jobs but for them.

    Let's put America first.

    misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-08   16:19:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


    #12. To: misterwhite (#11) (Edited)

    Yes, Let's put Americans first.

    Vicomte13  posted on  2017-09-08   19:03:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


    #13. To: Vicomte13, misterwhite (#12)

    I third the motion.

    nolu chan  posted on  2017-09-08   19:42:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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