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Title: Salt Lake County DA requests FBI assistance in Nurse Alex Wubbels investigation
Source: Fox 13 Now
URL Source: http://fox13now.com/2017/09/07/salt ... se-alex-wubbels-investigation/
Published: Sep 7, 2017
Author: Mark Green
Post Date: 2017-09-07 18:28:30 by kenh
Keywords: None
Views: 21272
Comments: 105

SALT LAKE CITY — Salt Lake County District Attorney Sim Gill has requested the FBI’s assistance in the investigation into the arrest of a Utah nurse who refused to allow a blood draw from an unconscious patient without following proper procedure.

In a statement released Thursday, Gill said his office officially requested the FBI investigate: “any and all individuals involved in the chain of conduct arising from the incident at the University of Utah Hospital on July 26, 2017 for any Civil Rights Violations under the color of authority.”

Gill said he requested the FBI’s help due to events beyond a mere criminal investigation.

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#9. To: kenh, nolu chan, Vicomte13, Pinguinite, misterwhite, misterwhite, paging misterwhite... (#0) (Edited)

Since you posted your Fox13 article, the Salt Lake Tribune pushed out their top headline in the last hour. I decided to tack it on to your thread instead of starting a new one.

Salt Lake district attorney asks FBI to investigate confrontation between cop and nurse for potential civil-rights violations

The Salt Lake County District Attorney’s Office, as part of its review of the circumstances of the arrest of a University Hospital nurse by a Salt Lake City police officer, has asked the FBI to investigate the case for any potential civil rights violations.

On July 26, SLCPD Detective Jeff Payne arrested nurse Alex Wubbels during a dispute over getting blood without a warrant from the unconscious victim of a fiery crash.

An FBI news release issued Thursday said the bureau has agreed to provide assistance and already had been looking into possible federal law violations.

“The FBI opened a civil rights/color of law review of the matter when we found out about it in the media,” the release says.

Color of law crimes are acts done by officials — such as use of excessive force or police misconduct — that go beyond their lawful authority and willfully deprive a person of a right protected by the Constitution or federal law.

District Attorney Sim Gill announced last week he wanted a criminal investigation into the episode, and Salt Lake City officials said the Unified Police Department would conduct the probe. On Thursday, he said the investigation into possible violations of state law will continue.

“This is really to be thorough,” Gill said of his request to FBI Special Agent Eric Barnhart, who heads the bureau’s Salt Lake City Division.

Gill said in a news release he is asking “our federal law enforcement partners to fully vet issues only they can investigate.” He said the decision to request assistance was made over the Labor Day weekend and a formal letter was sent to Barnhart on Wednesday.

“The District Attorney’s office has received multiple inquires and communications concerning the incident,” Gill added in the release. “We ask the community and our citizens to be patient. We assure them that this issue is of the utmost concern for us and we are committed to assuring a thorough, fair gathering and review of evidence, facts and issues.”

The letter asks the FBI “to examine and consider whether actions by Det. Payne, other police officers and law enforcement personnel and anyone else acting under the color of authority constitutes criminal conduct, criminal civil rights violations, or other violations of law.”

Gill’s letter adds: “It is essential that all individuals and institutions associated with this incident should be investigated to document the roles they played in the incident to prevent such a thing from happening again. Our community and its citizens deserve nothing less.”

Payne has been placed on administrative leave and also is the subject of a police internal affairs investigation and a civilian review board.

I knew it had to be civil rights if they brought the FBI in.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-07   19:35:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Tooconservative (#9)

Salt Lake district attorney asks FBI to investigate confrontation between cop and nurse for potential civil-rights violations

What?? He was acting under departmental procedure and the State of Utah law as written. She obstructed and then resisted arrest. This is insane.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-08   9:43:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: misterwhite, Toooconservative, Pinguinite (#26)

[Pinguinite #23] In the case of Wubbels, it appears she is a TRUE public servant and at least hesitant to file any civil lawsuit over the event, instead choosing the high road of using her experience to make the world a better place.

I agree with that assessment, but it may inevitably go beyond Wubbels to a class action. The extent of the violation is not yet clear. The FBI was not called in for help with one misdeed by one cop.

[misterwhite #25] He was acting under departmental procedure and the State of Utah law as written. She obstructed and then resisted arrest. This is insane.

He was acting unlawfully in violation of the U.S. Constitution, and U.S. Supreme Court precedent which had struck down, as null and void, all State laws and regulations or procedures repugnant to that precedential opinion.

The officer's actions were unconstitutional and resort to null and void law, regulations or procedures offer no help to make his actions lawful.

A directive from his lieutenant may mitigate his problems, but amplify the problems of the municipality of Salt Lake City.

In addition, the officer's demands appear clearly in violation of HIIPA laws. If this has occured in multiple past cases, SLC could be facing a class action civil suit, appeals of criminal convictions, and more criminal complaints.

Recall that TWO officers have been placed on administrative leave. Officer Payne did the arrest. Lieutenant Anonymous apparently called for the arrest.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/02/utah-cop-put-on-leave-after-bodycam-video-shows-him-cuffing-nurse-for-refusing-to-draw-blood-on-unconscious-patient.html

2nd Utah police officer put on administrative duty over nurse arrest

September 2, 2017
Fox News

Another cop was placed on administrative leave with pay in the handcuffing of a Utah hospital nurse who refused to take blood from an unconscious patient.

Salt Lake City’s mayor and police chief apologized Friday to Utah Hospital nurse, Alex Wubbels, who is seen in body cam video screaming “help me” after Detective Jeff Payne handcuffed and dragged her out of the hospital over her refusal to take the blood sample from the patient, a car-crash victim, on July 26.

The video has caused outrage since it was released Thursday.

Payne was placed on paid leave and prosecutors on Friday announced a a criminal investigation.

Police said Friday a second officer was also placed on paid leave. That officer has not been formally identified, but officials have said they also were reviewing the conduct of Payne's boss, a lieutenant who reportedly called for the arrest if Wubbels kept interfering.

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nolu chan  posted on  2017-09-08   15:19:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: nolu chan (#36)

Recall that TWO officers have been placed on administrative leave (with pay).

Isn't that standard in these types of cases? Or do you read something sinister into it?

"The FBI was not called in for help with one misdeed by one cop."

It's possible they're simply investigating a federal violation of her civil rights. Or it could be Russian interference.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-08   16:10:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: misterwhite (#38)

Isn't that standard in these types of cases? Or do you read something sinister into it?

Did you happen to notice one is a Lieutenant? Read: Salt Lake City liability.

They could be investigating Keckistan, but I doubt it.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-09-08   20:55:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: nolu chan (#39)

Did you happen to notice one is a Lieutenant? Read: Salt Lake City liability.

So they BOTH thought the law and police department policy were on their side. WTF is going on here? Why are these two being blamed for acting within accepted protocol?

FIRE THEM!! TAKE THEIR HOUSES!! THROW THEM IN JAIL!!

That's what I'm reading.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-09   9:13:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: misterwhite (#42)

So they BOTH thought the law and police department policy were on their side. WTF is going on here? Why are these two being blamed for acting within accepted protocol?

A jackass in power "authorizing" an unconstitutional act does not make it constitutional. It just leads to a criminal act. Deputy Dawg can always say he was just following orders, as that excuse has always worked well in the past.

If SLC wants to accept that unconstitutional searches were accepted protocol, then they should get ready to open their wallet very wide.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-09-09   16:08:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: nolu chan (#46)

A jackass in power "authorizing" an unconstitutional act does not make it constitutional.

Then shouldn't that jackass be blamed?

And we're not talking about some isolated "act". This is Utah law and police department policy that's been used many times before without a problem.

"If SLC wants to accept that unconstitutional searches were accepted protocol, then they should get ready to open their wallet very wide."

Why SLC? Why not the State of Utah? It's their statute.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-09   17:52:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: misterwhite (#47)

Why SLC? hy not the State of Utah? It's their statute.

The Utah statute is legal and constitutional.

The brain dead misreading of the statute by the SLC lieutenant, the detective, and yourself yields an unconstitutional, criminal result. And, of course, massive liability for Salt Lake City who employs those two blockheads. SLC should consider hiring the nurse to babysit them.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-09-09   20:21:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: nolu chan (#48)

The brain dead misreading of the statute by the SLC lieutenant, the detective, and yourself yields an unconstitutional, criminal result. And, of course, massive liability for Salt Lake City who employs those two blockheads. SLC should consider hiring the nurse to babysit them.

You have to wonder why they went so far over the line for an accident that occurred in Logan, UT, 81 miles outside their jurisdiction.

Their only involvement was trying to get blood for Logan (or UHP in my conspiracy theory).

I can't really imagine how or why they went so far in this case when it wasn't even their case to begin with.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-10   9:30:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Tooconservative (#49)

:You have to wonder why they went so far over the line for an accident that occurred in Logan ..."

You still gnawin' on that old bone?

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-10   10:41:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: misterwhite (#50)

You still gnawin' on that old bone?

You mean the old bone that an SLC detective and his supervisor violated a nurse's rights and placed her under false arrest while trying to violate an accident victim's 4th Amendment rights, all for an accident that didn't occur in SLC jurisdiction and when the there was no probable cause that the victim was an impaired driver?

Yes, that "old bone" is going to jump up and bite an SLC detective and his supervisor in the ass, real hard.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-10   11:09:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Tooconservative (#55)

You mean the old bone that an SLC detective and his supervisor violated a nurse's rights and placed her under false arrest while trying to violate an accident victim's 4th Amendment rights, all for an accident that didn't occur in SLC jurisdiction and when the there was no probable cause that the victim was an impaired driver?

No. Your relentless pursuit of why things happened the way they did.

It could be that police departmental policy is that any vehicular accident involving a fatality gives probable cause to draw blood from an unconscious or dead driver. Perhaps that's the policy that's now changed.

Can't blame the cop for that.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-10   11:27:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: misterwhite (#56)

Can't blame the cop for that.

Yes we can lamer.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-09-10   11:30:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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