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Title: Salt Lake County DA requests FBI assistance in Nurse Alex Wubbels investigation
Source: Fox 13 Now
URL Source: http://fox13now.com/2017/09/07/salt ... se-alex-wubbels-investigation/
Published: Sep 7, 2017
Author: Mark Green
Post Date: 2017-09-07 18:28:30 by kenh
Keywords: None
Views: 21276
Comments: 105

SALT LAKE CITY — Salt Lake County District Attorney Sim Gill has requested the FBI’s assistance in the investigation into the arrest of a Utah nurse who refused to allow a blood draw from an unconscious patient without following proper procedure.

In a statement released Thursday, Gill said his office officially requested the FBI investigate: “any and all individuals involved in the chain of conduct arising from the incident at the University of Utah Hospital on July 26, 2017 for any Civil Rights Violations under the color of authority.”

Gill said he requested the FBI’s help due to events beyond a mere criminal investigation.

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#3. To: kenh, misterwhite, Vicomte13, nolu chan, hondo68, Pinguinite, A K A Stone (#0)

“There continue to be issues that go beyond merely a criminal investigation, and, in an effort to address those concerns, the Salt Lake County District Attorney’s Office has formally asked for assistance from our Federal law enforcement partners to fully vet issues only they can investigate,” Gill stated. “The decision for this was arrived over the Labor Day weekend and a formal letter requesting this assistance was sent out Sept. 6, 2017."

Normally, you'd expect the local prosecutor to be adequate.

However, they would have no jurisdiction to charge the Logan PD or the Utah highway patrol.

In such cases, you'd normally see the Utah attorney general investigate the case. However, if the Utah highway patrol was involved, the attorney general would be representing them in the primary case or on appeal in a higher court.

Also telling is the mention that this goes beyond a criminal investigation. And what exactly might that be?

I think it is a case of conspiracy to deprive the trucker of his constitutional rights and that it was instigated by the Utah highway patrol with the Logan PD who then requested Payne's supervisor to get the blood for them and he sent Payne out to do it. Which is when he assaulted and arrested the nurse, violating her rights as well.

The FBI has long experience in cases involving conspiracy to deprive people of their constitutional rights. It is almost exclusively a federal matter.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-07   18:48:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Tooconservative, kenh, misterwhite, Vicomte13, hondo68, Pinguinite, A K A Stone (#3)

Also telling is the mention that this goes beyond a criminal investigation. And what exactly might that be?

Monstrous punitive damages in civil litigation. The municipality is on the hook, big time. Consider the possibility of looking back to find cases where the nurse did not say NO.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-09-07   19:38:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: nolu chan (#10)

Monstrous punitive damages in civil litigation. The municipality is on the hook, big time. Consider the possibility of looking back to find cases where the nurse did not say NO.

In the case of Wubbels, it appears she is a TRUE public servant and at least hesitant to file any civil lawsuit over the event, instead choosing the high road of using her experience to make the world a better place.

Perhaps an unintended consequence of that is the potential for her to sue would hang over the city until the legal deadline passes (years, I imagine), during which time the city would be walking on eggshells with the entire medical community.

The city might prefer a lawsuit that would be either settled out of court quickly or litigated almost as quickly, after which the matter would be legally and irrevocably settled and it's civic life and business as usual could return.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-09-08   2:24:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Pinguinite (#23)

In the case of Wubbels, it appears she is a TRUE public servant and at least hesitant to file any civil lawsuit over the event, instead choosing the high road of using her experience to make the world a better place.

So far. I'll mark your "high road" post for reference later.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-08   9:47:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: misterwhite (#27)

So far. I'll mark your "high road" post for reference later.

What for? She's completely within her legal and moral right to sue and use the money she wins for her own personal enjoyment (though it wouldn't surprise me if she instead donates it to a real charity).

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-09-08   10:34:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Pinguinite (#30)

What for?

So I can cite your stupid "She's taking the high road to make the world a better place" and rub it in your f**king face.

"(though it wouldn't surprise me if she instead donates it to a real charity)."

I'll mark this one for later reference also. What for? Same reason.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-08   11:07:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: misterwhite (#31)

So I can cite your stupid "She's taking the high road to make the world a better place" and rub it in your f**king face.

hahahaa

You are so cute when you're angry.

I didn't say she wouldn't sue. I said she was at least hesitant to sue.

If she does decide to sue, then it won't invalidate that observation.

I'll mark this one for later reference also. What for? Same reason.

I said "it wouldn't surprise me" if she donated any damage awards to charity. She may decide instead to throw a big party for all her medical friends featuring a cop pinata that strongly resembles Payne. If so, more power too her.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-09-08   13:30:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Pinguinite (#34)

I didn't say she wouldn't sue. I said she was at least hesitant to sue.

And therein lies the nobility.

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