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Title: Nurse: “Scared to death … really betrayed” by arrest
Source: HotAir
URL Source: https://hotair.com/archives/2017/09 ... -death-really-betrayed-arrest/
Published: Sep 4, 2017
Author: Ed Morrissey
Post Date: 2017-09-04 14:33:27 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 9308
Comments: 69

“Any nurse I think would have done exactly what I did,” Alex Wubbels told CNN’s Alisyn Camerota on New Day this morning. Wubbels got arrested by a Salt Lake City police officer for refusing to withdraw blood from a patient without a search warrant at the end of July. The video of the arrest went viral after Wubbels released it late last week, as John noted on Friday, and Salt Lake City has been dealing with the fallout ever since.

Wubbels tells Camerota that she feels “really betrayed,” and not just by the SLCPD either:


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This story has taken on a real life of its own, in Utah and well beyond. The video shows the campus cops just standing there and doing nothing to protect her as she was hauled out of her workplace unlawfully.

There's some real anger out there if the SLC Mormons are pranking their 911 over it in protest.

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#1. To: Tooconservative (#0)

There's some real anger out there if the SLC Mormons are pranking their 911 over it in protest.

Nobody "gets it." The cops were afraid for their own lives performing a mission to serve and protect the publick. Those GOD-DAMNED MORMONS should be blown off the map for their own over 100 year old antics of spreading the devil throughout the land and sanctioning multiple wives with sexually starved and depraved men in the Old West. Jail 'em!

buckeroo  posted on  2017-09-04   14:53:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: buckeroo (#1)

The cops were afraid for their own lives performing a mission to serve and protect the publick.

You've been hanging out with that smelly White kid again, haven't you?

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-04   15:07:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Tooconservative (#2) (Edited)

Those GOD-DAMNED MORMONS were the precursor to today's SCIENTOLOGISTS. JAIL 'em all, HANG 'em ALL HIGH, from the top of the tree branches, I say!

buckeroo  posted on  2017-09-04   15:16:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: buckeroo (#4)

Those GOD-DAMNED MORMONS were the precursor to today's SCIENTOLOGISTS.

Obviously, in your mind. But it isn't true.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-04   15:27:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Tooconservative (#6)

Obviously, in your mind. But it isn't true.

I'm telling you that L.Ron Hubbard is the re-incarnation of Joseph Smith! When will you people wake up?

buckeroo  posted on  2017-09-04   15:42:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: buckeroo, Tooconservative (#11) (Edited)

When will you people wake up?

When the scientologists start burning police cars, and looting Mormon Underwear shops?

Hondo68  posted on  2017-09-04   16:42:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: hondo68, misterwhite (#19)

When the scientologists start burning police cars, and looting Mormon Underwear shops?

The day is coming, hondo. Look how misterwhite has gone coo-coo already.

buckeroo  posted on  2017-09-04   22:30:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: buckeroo (#38)

Maybe misterwhir is a former cop who liked beating people.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-09-04   23:23:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: A K A Stone (#39)

You should not speculate on anyone as your voting history is ruined with political sabotage tarnishing your own record as a defender of the republic.

buckeroo  posted on  2017-09-04   23:30:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: buckeroo (#40)

Says the fool who never voted against Obama and who abandoned America and sat out voting for Trump. Tell me another fable California dick sucker.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-09-04   23:44:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: A K A Stone, misterwhite, Pinguinite, nolu chan, Vicomte13, hondo68 (#41) (Edited)

The full body cam footage of the entire incident from some other cop's bodycam.

Notice the presence of police supervisor James Tracy taking to the nurse seated in the police car. He had ordered Detective Payne to obtain the illegal sample and to arrest the nurse if she refused. Tracy is the "unnamed officer" that has been suspended along with Payne.

When you see the entire video, it actually makes you even angrier.

A bit more from SLC Tribune:

In a written report, Payne said he was responding to a request from Logan police to get the blood sample, to determine whether the patient had illicit substances in his system at the time of the crash. Payne explained the “exigent circumstances and implied consent law” to Wubbels, but, according to his report, she said “her policies won’t allow me to obtain the blood sample without a warrant.”

Payne — who says he wanted the blood sample to protect the patient, not punish him — said he was advised by Lt. James Tracy, the watch commander on duty that night, to arrest Wubbels for interfering with a police investigation if she refused to let him get the sample, according to his report.

All of this did occur hours after the crash. Payne was acting as an agent of the Logan PD, where the crash occurred as a direct result of the Utah highway patrol engaging in a high-speed pursuit.

The Logan PD has not given any good reason why they were trying to get a blood sample from a victim of a high-speed chase on a crowded road.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-05   2:27:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Tooconservative (#46)

The Logan PD has not given any good reason why they were trying to get a blood sample from a victim of a high-speed chase on a crowded road.

Would that make a difference? If the reason is good enough, this all goes away? Suddenly law enforcement is right and the nurse is wrong and should be thrown in jail?

Give me a break.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-05   9:51:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: misterwhite (#53)

Would that make a difference? If the reason is good enough, this all goes away? Suddenly law enforcement is right and the nurse is wrong and should be thrown in jail?

Because the details do matter.

Upon what reasonable cause did the Logan PD request that blood sample? Utah's laws are very strict about this. The officer must have reasonable cause. And why should a SLC Unified PD officer (Rotten Cop) be sent hours later to collect a sample for the Logan PD? Logan is a town of 50,000 and surely has its own phlebotomist/detectives. Why didn't they send their own personnel, if they actually had reasonable cause to obtain a blood sample (suspicion that the suspect had BAC of alcohol or other drugs contrary to Utah laws)?

Logan PD is going to have to account for their role in this as well. Why did they ask for his blood? Did they have any reasonable cause to do so? Why would SLC Unified PD send a detective to collect it instead of Logan just sending their own personnel?

Since it was UHP that chased this motorist into oncoming traffic, what role was played by UHP in all this? Why was Logan PD trying to get that blood sample and why was SLCUPD their blood collection agent?

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-05   10:09:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Tooconservative (#58)

You ask these questions as though their answers would make a difference. They won't and you know it. So why waste everyone's time?

The answer could be as simple as a police department policy which states that in every vehicular accident involving a death, blood samples are taken of everyone involved. Maybe it was his turn to draw samples. Maybe he was the only one available.

You're making this waaaay more complicated than it needs to be.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-05   10:18:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#61. To: misterwhite (#59)

You ask these questions as though their answers would make a difference. They won't and you know it. So why waste everyone's time?

It will make a difference when the police inquiries are made and when the trials begin. This will go to trial, first criminal court, then civil.

The answer could be as simple as a police department policy which states that in every vehicular accident involving a death, blood samples are taken of everyone involved.

That is impossible. You're just making crap up.

The police cannot make up their own policy to test everyone if the law says they must have probable cause to suspect impairment. And the Logan PD and the SLCUPD did not have any such probable cause at all. They were the errand boys of the Utah highway patrol who are no doubt desperate to keep their hands clean at this point. I'm not sure that will work out for them. I expect UHP will suspend one or more supervisors very shortly and they will be included in the criminal investigation.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-05 10:49:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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