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Title: Nurse: “Scared to death … really betrayed” by arrest
Source: HotAir
URL Source: https://hotair.com/archives/2017/09 ... -death-really-betrayed-arrest/
Published: Sep 4, 2017
Author: Ed Morrissey
Post Date: 2017-09-04 14:33:27 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 9206
Comments: 69

“Any nurse I think would have done exactly what I did,” Alex Wubbels told CNN’s Alisyn Camerota on New Day this morning. Wubbels got arrested by a Salt Lake City police officer for refusing to withdraw blood from a patient without a search warrant at the end of July. The video of the arrest went viral after Wubbels released it late last week, as John noted on Friday, and Salt Lake City has been dealing with the fallout ever since.

Wubbels tells Camerota that she feels “really betrayed,” and not just by the SLCPD either:


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This story has taken on a real life of its own, in Utah and well beyond. The video shows the campus cops just standing there and doing nothing to protect her as she was hauled out of her workplace unlawfully.

There's some real anger out there if the SLC Mormons are pranking their 911 over it in protest.

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#7. To: Tooconservative (#0)

NBC correctly points out that the Supreme Court ruled last year that blood cannot be taken without a warrant or patient consent.

Fine. And the possession of a State of Utah driver's license gives implied consent to a blood draw.

The nurse was wrong. The cop was right. But the presence of the body cam video in this instance is thwarting the application of the rule of law. Instead, the rantings and wailings of the nurse is swaying public opinion.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-04   15:28:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: misterwhite (#7)

Fine. And the possession of a State of Utah driver's license gives implied consent to a blood draw.

Just because the law hasn't been challenged and struck down does not mean it is in force, even if it is still on the books officially.

The nurse was wrong. The cop was right.

The nurse was 100% right, legally and ethically. The cop was 100% wrong, legally and ethically. And he was an asshole besides and manhandled a nurse doing her job.

But the presence of the body cam video in this instance is thwarting the application of the rule of law.

No, it will hang him and he will soon be an ex-cop and an ex-EMT.

Instead, the rantings and wailings of the nurse is swaying public opinion.

The nurse was right. She was the one who was wronged here. Naturally, she is a sympathetic figure to the public. People look at her and see Everynurse, the nurses in charge at every hospital in America.

We haven't even had a thread yet about just how pissed off all the nurses' unions are about this. And they are hopping mad. They do know how to make themselves heard too.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-04   15:36:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Tooconservative (#9)

Just because the law hasn't been challenged and struck down does not mean it is in force, even if it is still on the books officially.

I see. Did you tell the cop that? Did he know that new rules were in effect? Was he aware that laws on the books mean nothing, and that those laws are subject to the whims of the YouTube audience?

Perhaps the cop should do a YouTube poll before he attempts to enforce any law. You never know.

"The nurse was 100% right, legally and ethically."

Nope. She was wrong to interfere with a law enforcement officer acting under State of Utah law. She was not only ignorant of the law, but she was ignorant of the fact that blood on HER patient had already been drawn. Some nurse. That would have ended the conflict right there.

"Naturally, she is a sympathetic figure to the public."

Obviously not to me. So you're saying the law shouldn't apply to sympathetic figures? Lady Justice should lift the blindfold and peek to see if the person is a sympathetic figure?

Hey, those 800,000 DACA kids look like sympathetic figures, too. Let's just go ahead and make them U.S. citizens. F**k the law. OK with you?

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-04   15:56:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: misterwhite, A K A Stone (#15)

I see. Did you tell the cop that? Did he know that new rules were in effect? Was he aware that laws on the books mean nothing, and that those laws are subject to the whims of the YouTube audience?

The Supremes ruled on this last year. It is his responsibility to know; it is his police department's responsibility to ensure that he knows the law.

She was wrong to interfere with a law enforcement officer acting under State of Utah law.

He was acting unlawfully. You can go argue about that with the USSC if you like. Until they change their minds, he was acting unlawfully under color of authority. And you can't explain that away.

Obviously not to me. So you're saying the law shouldn't apply to sympathetic figures? Lady Justice should lift the blindfold and peek to see if the person is a sympathetic figure? Hey, those 800,000 DACA kids look like sympathetic figures, too. Let's just go ahead and make them U.S. citizens. F**k the law. OK with you?

Now you're just sounding kind of desperate, like someone who already knows they're in the wrong but won't admit it. So you try to inject other issues into what is a straightforward case of police abuse of a nurse who obeyed the law and protected her patient.

Have you noticed that no one single official in Utah is backing the bad cop? Not the mayor, not the chief of police, not the highway patrol, no state legislators, no assorted congeries of deputies' and sheriffs' and police organizations, none. Not even one.

In fact, you are the only person in America trying to defend this idiot cop.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-04   16:04:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Tooconservative (#17)

The Supremes ruled on this last year.

Yeah. They said you need consent. Getting a driver's license in the State of Utah gives law enforcement implied consent to draw blood.

"He was acting unlawfully."

Nope. Do I need to cite the State of Utah statute again?

Have you noticed that no one single official in Utah is backing the bad cop?

Yep. Pisses me off. Because the cop was right. The officials are pussies, not wanting to rock the PC boat.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-04   18:12:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: misterwhite (#24)

Nope. Do I need to cite the State of Utah statute again?

You did not cite the statute. I posted it above. You simply don't understand the statute's rather plain language.

"Implied consent" is not a prior consent to any taking of blood or breath samples at all, even in cases where they have already arrested someone for DUI. Stop pretending it is. The statute explicitly rules out taking samples without consent.

That was never the law in Utah or in any other state. It isn't my fault that you don't understand this.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-04   18:44:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Tooconservative (#27)

And anyway, it isn't the Utah law that governs here, it is the United States Constitution, as determined by the Supreme Court.

The cop doesn't have a pot to piss in.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-09-04   22:06:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Vicomte13 (#37)

The cop doesn't have a pot to piss in.

He will likely lose his job as an EMT too. The ambulance company he works for cannot afford the bad blood with the local hospitals.

They have him on video, threatening to dump transients on the university hospital in retaliation.

Here are excerpts from his own bodycam. You'll see the nurse still being held in his cop car. I can see why the nurse is so furious with the university police. What a pair of useless tools. Their careers will take a definite hit for this.

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