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Title: 2nd Utah police officer put on administrative duty over nurse arrest
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Published: Sep 2, 2017
Author: Fox News
Post Date: 2017-09-02 16:23:51 by Pinguinite
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Views: 2160
Comments: 19

Another cop was placed on administrative leave with pay in the handcuffing of a Utah hospital nurse who refused to take blood from an unconscious patient.

Salt Lake City’s mayor and police chief apologized Friday to Utah Hospital nurse, Alex Wubbels, who is seen in body cam video screaming “help me” after Detective Jeff Payne handcuffed and dragged her out of the hospital over her refusal to take the blood sample from the patient, a car-crash victim, on July 26.

Alex Wubbels was dragged out of the hospital in handcuffs after she refused to allow blood to be drawn from an unconscious patient. (AP)

The video has caused outrage since it was released Thursday.

Payne was placed on paid leave and prosecutors on Friday announced a a criminal investigation.

Police said Friday a second officer was also placed on paid leave. That officer has not been formally identified, but officials have said they also were reviewing the conduct of Payne's boss, a lieutenant who reportedly called for the arrest if Wubbels kept interfering.

Mayor Jackie Biskupski said Friday she was alarmed at what the video shows, according to The Salt Lake Tribune.

“What I saw is completely unacceptable to the values of my administration and of the values of the Salt Lake City Police Department,” the mayor said, according to the paper. “I extend a personal apology to Ms. Wubbels for what she has been through for simply doing her job.”

The video shows Wubbels, an Alpine skier who participated in the 1998 and 2002 Winter Olympics, calmly explaining to Payne why she could not draw blood from the patient.

The Salt Lake City police chief and mayor apologized and changed department policies in line with the guidance Alex Wubbels was following the incident. (AP)

She tells him that blood can only be drawn if the patient is conscious and gives consent or is under arrest. Otherwise, she tells Payne she needs to see a warrant, citing a 2016 U.S. Supreme Court ruling.

Payne is then seen threatening to arrest Wubbels.

“I either go away with blood in vials or body in tow,” Payne is seen saying.

Wubbels is then heard explaining the situation to the supervisor. She tells Payne that her supervisor agrees with her and says to him, “Sir, you’re making a huge mistake because you’re threatening a nurse.”

With that, Payne is seen placing Wubbels under arrest and physically shoving her out the door as she screams.

The video shows Wubbels yelling, “Help! Stop! I did nothing wrong!” while being handcuffed.

What I saw on the video last night is completely unacceptable. @ChiefMikeBrown & I apologize for these actions. https://t.co/N62TtQlHdr — Mayor J. Biskupski (@slcmayor) September 1, 2017

Payne was attempting to get a blood sample from William Gray, a reserve officer in Rigby, Idaho, who was burned after being involved in a head-on crash with a pickup truck driver who was fleeing police, the Washington Post reported. The driver died in the incident.

Payne wrote in a police report that he grabbed Wubbels and took her outside to avoid causing a "scene" in the emergency room. He said his boss told him to arrest Wubbels if she kept interfering.

The detective left Wubbels in a hot police car for 20 minutes before realizing that blood had already been drawn as part of treatment, her lawyer, Karra Porter, said. Wubbels was released without being arrested.

Payne initially remained on duty although he was suspended from blood-draw duties.

Please see @slcmayor and @ChiefMikeBrown additional statements regarding incident involving University of Utah Hospital #nurse. pic.twitter.com/SE6KOfrr4f — SLC Police Dept. (@slcpd) September 1, 2017

Christina Judd, a spokesperson for the Salt Lake City Police, said the department was alarmed by what they witnessed in the video.

Judd said the department was working to investigate what went wrong and is seeking to repair the “unfortunate rift” it had caused between officers and nurses.

“I can’t sit on this video and not attempt to speak out both to re-educate and inform,” Wubbels told The Salt Lake Tribune. Police departments “need to be having conversations about what is appropriate intervention.”

Her bosses have stood by her.

"University of Utah Health supports Nurse Wubbles and her decision to focus first and foremost on the care and well-being of her patient,” said Suzanne Winchester, the hospital's media relations manager. “She followed procedures and protocols in this matter and was acting in her patient’s best interest. We have worked with our law enforcement partners on this issue to ensure an appropriate process for moving forward.”


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So... seems the cop's boss has been put on leave as well, and a criminal investigation into the cops has been initiated.

Not looking good for the home team right now!

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#1. To: Pinguinite, Vampire PD (#0)

The officers feared for their lives, unless their vampire cravings for blood were met.

And after twisting together a crown of thorns, they put it on His head

Hondo68  posted on  2017-09-02   16:47:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Pinguinite (#0)

Not looking good for the home team right now!

Only if they charge them under the new policy rather than the policy they were following at the time on the incident.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-02   19:14:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Pinguinite (#0) (Edited)

Cool. She gets to take two houses, two cars, two pensions after her attackers have to go look for a new sty.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2017-09-02   20:13:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: hondo68 (#1)

The officers feared for their lives, unless their vampire cravings for blood were met.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-02   21:01:15 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Pinguinite, misterwhite, Vicomte13, nolu chan, hondo68, A K A Stone (#0)

More video of the cop abusing the nurse. Also some dashcam footage of the headon crash and a brief look at the accident scene and the wrecked vehicles.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-02   21:14:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Tooconservative (#5)

That was kidnapping. Piggy should face felony charges. Mister white lips probably wants to go down on him as some kind of payment for being his hero.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-09-02   21:21:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: misterwhite (#2) (Edited)

Ass wipe what policy are you talking about? The one you fantasized about while jerking off to cop abuse videos? Your pretendd policies dont count.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-09-02   21:24:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: All, Pinguinite, misterwhite, Vicomte13, nolu chan, hondo68, A K A Stone (#5)

A better dashcam video of the crash itself.

It looks like suicide-by-semi. The video is unclear as to how long the police chase lasted or how far they chased him.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-03   6:37:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Tooconservative (#8)

Yes, it does look intentional, though a tire blowout might be consistent with the videos also. At high speeds, that's a possibility.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-09-03   12:07:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Pinguinite (#9) (Edited)

Yes, it does look intentional, though a tire blowout might be consistent with the videos also. At high speeds, that's a possibility.

Or a cop shooting his tire out, though I'm not sure the cops were close enough for that. It was a very dramatic swerve into the truck.

I dunno how the hell that other car sailed through the fireball unscathed. Pucker factor: 11.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-03   12:43:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Tooconservative (#10)

Or a cop shooting his tire out, though I'm not sure the cops were close enough for that.

Outside of the movies, I am not sure any cop has ever done that. In addition to the difficulty, at extreme highway speeds with other traffic, it would be extremely dangerous, and even a bad cop wouldn't do it for the certain repercussions that would come. It would take an incredibly stupid cop.

So no, on it's face I would rule that out.

A tire blow-out or suicide would be the most likely explanation, either of which the cops could potentially receive a portion of blame for, at best.

I guess though another question is why the guy was being pursued? Did he commit a mass shooting or were his car's inspection tags expired?

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-09-03   13:19:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Pinguinite (#11) (Edited)

According to the YouTube description of the above crash video:

Dashcam video from Cache County police shows the moments when 26-year-old Marcos Torres collided into a large truck on July 26th. The collision left Marcos killed, and another driver in critical condition. According to authorities the suspect had refused to pull over and instead accelerated forward moments before the collision occurred.

We are left to wonder how long is "moments". How many miles were covered at dangerous speeds with the perp trying to desperately escape the cops?

Hundreds or thousands of people on that road were likely endangered by this perp. But if he hadn't plowed into that semi, he would have hit someone else and they wouldn't have survived at all. It is no small issue in these high-speed police chases. There are no perfect solutions to the problem.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-03   13:56:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Pinguinite, misterwhite (#11) (Edited)

More reporting from Deseret News, 7/27/17:

Police ID driver killed in head-on crash with semitrailer

WELLSVILLE, Cache County — Police have identified a man who died in an explosive crash with a semitrailer that set the truck's driver aflame Wednesday.

Marcos Torres, 26, of Brigham City, fled a traffic stop in a black Chevrolet Silverado about 2 p.m., Logan police said in a Thursday statement.

A UHP trooper tried to pull Torres over after receiving reports of reckless driving but the truck fled, slamming head-on into the semitrailer in Sardine Canyon.

Torres was pronounced dead at the scene.

A trooper extinguished the semitrailer driver, William Rigby, of Idaho, who had serious injuries and was brought to Logan Regional Hospital, Logan police said. He was then flown to University of Utah Hospital.

Photos provided by the Utah Department of Public Safety showed the cab of the truck was crushed and partially melted.

The junction of state Routes 89 and 91 at Wellsville were closed in both directions from mile makers 16 to 19 for much of the afternoon.

The crash is under investigation.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-03   14:02:36 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Tooconservative (#12)

According to authorities the suspect had refused to pull over and instead accelerated forward moments before the collision occurred.

That suggests it was a simply traffic stop, perhaps for speeding or, in fact, expired tags or some such.

However long "moments" was was long enough for not just one, but two police cars to begin pursuit.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-09-03   14:14:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Tooconservative (#13)

A UHP trooper tried to pull Torres over after receiving reports of reckless driving but the truck fled,

That suggests drunk driving, or otherwise drugged up, which is a 3rd possibility in addition to suicide or tire blow-out.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-09-03   14:17:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Pinguinite (#14)

However long "moments" was was long enough for not just one, but two police cars to begin pursuit.

Yeah, I noticed that too. Not definitive but "moments" is might vague, sounds almost deliberately vague to me. After all, the police know exactly how long they were pursuing this guy and exactly how far. But they just say "moments".

I'd say it is safe to assume that "moments" means more than two minutes. At 90mph, that is 3 miles covered in 2 minutes, 7.5 miles in 5 minutes, etc.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-03   14:31:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Pinguinite (#0)

The detective left Wubbels in a hot police car for 20 minutes before realizing that blood had already been drawn as part of treatment, her lawyer, Karra Porter, said. Wubbels was released without being arrested.

Good luck with that one. Blood drawn for medical reasons is not put in a vacutainer with EDTA. That was drawn for medical purposes only. Deputy Dawg still needs a warrant and a lawful blood draw for evidentiary purposes.

What was the detective's problem? Was he not aware of the magic telephone warrant? No, he just had no probable cause.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-09-05   17:48:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: nolu chan (#17)

What was the detective's problem? Was he not aware of the magic telephone warrant? No, he just had no probable cause.

It seems he made no effort at all to obtain one, likely for that exact reason.

So he made a false arrest. Any idea what the max penalty is for that?

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-09-05   21:41:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Pinguinite (#18)

Any idea what the max penalty is for that?

Not offhand. It would vary by state law. I doubt he will get the max, whatever it is.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-09-06   18:00:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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