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Title: Utah nurse screams 'help me' as she's cuffed by cop for refusing to draw blood on unconscious patient, video shows
Source: Fox News
URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/0 ... cious-patient-video-shows.html
Published: Sep 2, 2017
Author: Fox News
Post Date: 2017-09-02 00:34:39 by Pinguinite
Keywords: None
Views: 12616
Comments: 75

Nurse arrested for refusing to draw unconscious man's blood

A Utah nurse screamed “help me” after a cop handcuffed her for refusing to draw blood on an unconscious patient July 26, police body camera footage showed.

The video showed University of Utah Hospital nurse Alex Wubbels, an Alpine skier who participated in the 1998 and 2002 Winter Olympic games, calmly explaining to Salt Lake Detective Jeff Payne that she could not draw blood from a patient who had been injured in a car accident, according to The Salt Lake Tribune.

Wubbels told Payne the patient was required to give consent for a blood sample or be under arrest. Otherwise, she said police needed a warrant. Payne threatened to imprison Wubbels if he was not given the blood sample, according to the video.

“I either go away with blood in vials or body in tow,” Payne is shown saying.

Wubbels, who was on the phone with her supervisor, explained the situation to the supervisor, who agreed with the nurse and reportedly told the cop, “sir, you’re making a huge mistake because you’re threatening a nurse.”

Disturbing video shows Utah nurse dragged away by cop for refusing to draw unconscious patient’s blood https://t.co/y6ZjfDHeyp pic.twitter.com/k3SrUsSjqh — Raw Story (@RawStory) September 1, 2017

Upon hearing that, Payne announced Wubbels was under arrest and physically moved her outside the hospital while she screamed.

Wubbels yelled, “Help! Stop! I did nothing wrong!” while being handcuffed.

Payne was attempting to get a blood sample from a patient who was burned after being involved in a head-on crash with a pick-up truck driver that was fleeing police, the Washington Post reported. The driver died in the incident.

Wubbels was not charged and police have started an internal investigation. Payne initially remained on duty although he was suspended from blood-draw duties. Later on Friday Utah police announced that he had been put on paid administrative leave.

Police Chief Mike Brown said in a statement that his department will comply with the investigation into Payne. Salt Lake County's Unified Police Department will run the criminal probe into Payne's actions. Brown and the mayor of Salt Lake City have apologized for the incident and changed their policies to mirror hospital protocols.

Christina Judd, a spokesperson for the Salt Lake City Police, said the department was alarmed by what they witnessed in the video.

Judd said the department was working to investigate what went wrong and is seeking to repair the “unfortunate rift” it has caused.

Wubbels said she had been told of other hospital employees being harassed by officers and this footage proved their claim. She has not pressed charges yet but would consider it if police did not change their ways.

“I can’t sit on this video and not attempt to speak out both to re-educate and inform,” Wubbels told The Salt Lake Tribune. Police departments “need to be having conversations about what is appropriate intervention.”

The hospital supported Wubbels actions and said it would consider pressing charges.

"University of Utah Health supports Nurse Wubbles and her decision to focus first and foremost on the care and well-being of her patient,” said Suzanne Winchester, the hospital's media relations manager. “She followed procedures and protocols in this matter and was acting in her patient’s best interest. We have worked with our law enforcement partners on this issue to ensure an appropriate process for moving forward.”


Poster Comment:

I was unclear if the cop was expecting the nurse or staff to make the blood draw and they were refusing, or if the cop wanted to draw it himself and the staff was preventing him from doing so.

This article clearly states the cop was expecting the staff to do it, in which case the nurse was arrested for refusing to do something the cop wanted.

It seems the nurse, so far, is being nice in not suing the cop & department. That's characteristic of a true public servant.

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#6. To: Pinguinite (#0)

I was unclear if the cop was expecting the nurse or staff to make the blood draw and they were refusing, or if the cop wanted to draw it himself and the staff was preventing him from doing so.

The cop was trained in drawing blood. The nurse was trying to prevent him from doing so. She was wrong. The cop was right.

BUT, in order to maintain a good relationship between the police and the hospital, the police have to pretend it was their fault.

Put me in charge and she'd be sitting in jail waiting for her trial of obstruction and resisting arrest. While she's sitting there she'll have time to become familiar with Utah state law which clearly says that a person gives their implied consent to a blood draw when they acquire a driver's license.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-02   11:26:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: misterwhite (#6)

The cop was trained in drawing blood. The nurse was trying to prevent him from doing so. She was wrong. The cop was right.

You contradict the fox news article which clearly states the cop wanted the hospital to do the blood draw.

Put me in charge and

We appreciate the offer to volunteer, but...... no thank you!

As is made clear, consent is a non-issue if the cop arrested the nurse for not drawing the blood. Unless you can show a law requiring licensed medical staff to draw blood of third parties upon police demand.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-09-02   12:07:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Pinguinite (#14)

You contradict the fox news article which clearly states the cop wanted the hospital to do the blood draw.

You contradict the Salt Lake Tribune headline which clearly states:

"Video shows Utah nurse screaming, being dragged into police car after refusing to let officer take blood from unconscious victim"

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-02   12:12:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: misterwhite (#16)

You contradict the Salt Lake Tribune headline which clearly states:

"Video shows Utah nurse screaming, being dragged into police car after refusing to let officer take blood from unconscious victim"

Not necessarily. The officer clearly wanted to take the blood and stated as much (he would leave with either blood or body, I think it was). But the SLTrib article does not say who would do the actual blood drawing.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-09-02   12:30:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Pinguinite (#19)

But the SLTrib article does not say who would do the actual blood drawing.

"to let officer take blood from unconscious victim".

So you think that could mean he wanted the nurse to draw the blood, then place the vial of blood in the unconscious victim's hand, whereupon the cop would then take blood from the victim.

That's how you read the headline? Why do you insist on making yourself look so incredibly stupid?

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-02   12:49:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: misterwhite (#23)

The SLTrib article does not explicitly say who was to draw the blood.

The Fox news article, to which the AP contributed, does explicitly say the hospital staff was to draw.

And the cop is on admin leave, which was a decision made by me.

Just kidding, but you can have some fun with that I'm sure.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-09-02   12:52:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Pinguinite, misterwhite, nolu chan (#24)

The SLTrib article does not explicitly say who was to draw the blood.

It does not matter at all who was going to draw the blood. As a matter of policy, the hospital would not allow non-staffers to draw blood.

As to the larger legal question, the hospital was obligated to protect the rights of a vulnerable (unconscious) person from the moment they admitted the patient. They have custodial legal obligations by law in every state.

If the cop was some kind of police phlebotomist or something, he should have drawn the blood before the patient came under the protective status of a hospital, i.e. prior to admission.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-02   14:14:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Tooconservative (#45)

As to the larger legal question, the hospital was obligated to protect the rights of a vulnerable (unconscious) person from the moment they admitted the patient. They have custodial legal obligations by law in every state.

A very reasonable and believable position. If true, and the cop did want to do it himself but was prevented by the staff, then it would be the cop in violation of law, not withstanding any laws related to implied consent by drivers.

If the cop was some kind of police phlebotomist or something, he should have drawn the blood before the patient came under the protective status of a hospital, i.e. prior to admission.

True, but a moot point as to the question of the reason for his arresting her.

I think it most likely that the cop was demanding the staff do the draw and give him the samples, and was not asking for access to do it himself. I mean, heck, it's a hospital. When you are in a hospital and want something like a blood draw done, one would typically ask a nurse to do it. Prior to the dispute arising, it would be most reasonable for the cop wanting a blood sample to ask the hospital staff to provide one and that he had every expectation of it being provided to him. Even if he was trained, it's not his primary field so that is what a reasonable person would do. Plus there is the matter of sterility. A cop walking into an ER has all his gear all over him, and was presumably at the scene of the accident, so it would not be prudent for staff to allow that under normal circumstances anyway.

It is most likely then that the cop wanted the staff to draw the blood and did not attempt to do it himself, at least prior to the arrest.

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