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Title: Utah nurse screams 'help me' as she's cuffed by cop for refusing to draw blood on unconscious patient, video shows
Source: Fox News
URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/0 ... cious-patient-video-shows.html
Published: Sep 2, 2017
Author: Fox News
Post Date: 2017-09-02 00:34:39 by Pinguinite
Keywords: None
Views: 6981
Comments: 75

Nurse arrested for refusing to draw unconscious man's blood

A Utah nurse screamed “help me” after a cop handcuffed her for refusing to draw blood on an unconscious patient July 26, police body camera footage showed.

The video showed University of Utah Hospital nurse Alex Wubbels, an Alpine skier who participated in the 1998 and 2002 Winter Olympic games, calmly explaining to Salt Lake Detective Jeff Payne that she could not draw blood from a patient who had been injured in a car accident, according to The Salt Lake Tribune.

Wubbels told Payne the patient was required to give consent for a blood sample or be under arrest. Otherwise, she said police needed a warrant. Payne threatened to imprison Wubbels if he was not given the blood sample, according to the video.

“I either go away with blood in vials or body in tow,” Payne is shown saying.

Wubbels, who was on the phone with her supervisor, explained the situation to the supervisor, who agreed with the nurse and reportedly told the cop, “sir, you’re making a huge mistake because you’re threatening a nurse.”

Disturbing video shows Utah nurse dragged away by cop for refusing to draw unconscious patient’s blood https://t.co/y6ZjfDHeyp pic.twitter.com/k3SrUsSjqh — Raw Story (@RawStory) September 1, 2017

Upon hearing that, Payne announced Wubbels was under arrest and physically moved her outside the hospital while she screamed.

Wubbels yelled, “Help! Stop! I did nothing wrong!” while being handcuffed.

Payne was attempting to get a blood sample from a patient who was burned after being involved in a head-on crash with a pick-up truck driver that was fleeing police, the Washington Post reported. The driver died in the incident.

Wubbels was not charged and police have started an internal investigation. Payne initially remained on duty although he was suspended from blood-draw duties. Later on Friday Utah police announced that he had been put on paid administrative leave.

Police Chief Mike Brown said in a statement that his department will comply with the investigation into Payne. Salt Lake County's Unified Police Department will run the criminal probe into Payne's actions. Brown and the mayor of Salt Lake City have apologized for the incident and changed their policies to mirror hospital protocols.

Christina Judd, a spokesperson for the Salt Lake City Police, said the department was alarmed by what they witnessed in the video.

Judd said the department was working to investigate what went wrong and is seeking to repair the “unfortunate rift” it has caused.

Wubbels said she had been told of other hospital employees being harassed by officers and this footage proved their claim. She has not pressed charges yet but would consider it if police did not change their ways.

“I can’t sit on this video and not attempt to speak out both to re-educate and inform,” Wubbels told The Salt Lake Tribune. Police departments “need to be having conversations about what is appropriate intervention.”

The hospital supported Wubbels actions and said it would consider pressing charges.

"University of Utah Health supports Nurse Wubbles and her decision to focus first and foremost on the care and well-being of her patient,” said Suzanne Winchester, the hospital's media relations manager. “She followed procedures and protocols in this matter and was acting in her patient’s best interest. We have worked with our law enforcement partners on this issue to ensure an appropriate process for moving forward.”


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I was unclear if the cop was expecting the nurse or staff to make the blood draw and they were refusing, or if the cop wanted to draw it himself and the staff was preventing him from doing so.

This article clearly states the cop was expecting the staff to do it, in which case the nurse was arrested for refusing to do something the cop wanted.

It seems the nurse, so far, is being nice in not suing the cop & department. That's characteristic of a true public servant.

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#3. To: misterwhite (#0)

BTW, if the cop arrested the nurse because she would not do the blood draw, and not because she was preventing the cop from doing the draw, then any law about implied consent and obstruction of justice is a non-issue. The issue instead is one of whether a cop can force a citizen to assist him in conducting a bodily search of another person, and arrest that person if s/he refuses.

And especially in the case of a blood draw, there's no way in hell any court will give rubber stamp approval as it's a medical procedure that comes with risk, even if small, to both drawee and drawer.

The nurse's supervisor can be heard telling this cop over the phone that he was making a huge mistake. If it was because he felt he could force the nurse to do a blood draw, then the mistake was at minimum, enormously huge.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-09-02   2:13:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Pinguinite, misterwhite (#3)

And especially in the case of a blood draw, there's no way in hell any court will give rubber stamp approval as it's a medical procedure that comes with risk, even if small, to both drawee and drawer.

Why did the psycho cop insist on a blood draw in the first place? The unconscious man was that way because of the police chase that caused the driver of the car being chased to slam into his pick-up truck.

The only possible reason for the badged prick to demand a blood test would be to try and "get" the victim of the accident on some charge in order to cover his own ass just in case his car chase was not "by the book"

Deckard  posted on  2017-09-02   11:24:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Deckard (#5)

Why did the psycho cop insist on a blood draw in the first place? The unconscious man was that way because of the police chase that caused the driver of the car being chased to slam into his pick-up truck.

Obviously, if the cop could have gotten a warrant, then he probably would have, but he likely would have failed to do so as the driver committed no infraction related to the crash.

It is a good question though which begs an answer. The victim was, in fact, a part time cop himself. I do not see how it is possible the blood draw could have helped the victim, contrary to the officer's claim, as it could only yield evidence that could hurt him, not help him (I.e. if it turned out that in spite of not committing any driving infraction contributing to the crash, he could have been on drugs or alcohol). Perhaps the cop knew the victim and had some sinister motive. Perhaps, as you speculate, the cop did something to cause the crash and wanted to incriminate the victim somehow, perhaps by tainting the blood sample he wanted in his possession. But clearly there was no legit reason to require the blood draw, and the hospital policy for refusing it reflected that lack of legitimate need.

The only possible reason for the badged prick to demand a blood test would be to try and "get" the victim of the accident on some charge in order to cover his own ass just in case his car chase was not "by the book"

Yes. This question should be part of the investigation, of course.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-09-02   12:03:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Pinguinite (#13)

It is a good question though which begs an answer.

Why? It's department policy. They don't need your approval. And they certainly don't need to justify it to you.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-02   12:29:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: misterwhite (#18)

Why? It's department policy. They don't need your approval. And they certainly don't need to justify it to you.

Please try not to be too stupid. It's all part of an investigation.

If Utah police set up a checkpoint stopping all motorists and doing a blood draw, right on the highway, then the question of why would still be important.

By your way of thinking, cops could legally, without any question whatsover, set up such check points every 1/2 mile on a 100 mile interstate, resulting in the death of all drivers due to loss of blood / shock perhaps by no more than about the 80 mile marker.

No, such a police tactic would be above and beyond the question of any American citizens, because it's "the law".

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-09-02   12:36:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Pinguinite (#20)

By your way of thinking, cops could legally, without any question whatsover, set up such check points every 1/2 mile on a 100 mile interstate, resulting in the death of all drivers due to loss of blood / shock perhaps by no more than about the 80 mile marker.

Because they can, you assume they would?

Congress can set your taxes at 100%. Gosh, if they did that you'd have no money. Let's worry ourselves to death about that, too.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-02   12:54:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: misterwhite (#25)

Because they can, you assume they would?

Well, since you already established that taking blood from any driver at any time can be done for any reason or no reason whatsoever, then if they were to do as I theorized, then no one has any standing to question it.

And you'd say it's okay because of the implied consent law.

I get it. The law does not serve the people. The people serve the law. That's why people exist. And if a choice needs to be made of an innocent person dying or the law broken, then the innocent person needs to die. That's how you think. I understand that now.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-09-02   13:04:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Pinguinite (#27)

then no one has any standing to question it.

They can question it, complain about it, challenge it -- at the appropriate time to the appropriate people.

The nurse and her supervisor chose to question it at the wrong time with the wrong person. Furthermore, they went beyond questioning it and actually interfered based on the mistaken belief that they were in the right.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-02   13:19:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: misterwhite (#32)

They can question it, complain about it, challenge it -- at the appropriate time to the appropriate people.

Sure they can. After the fact, of course. In this case, after a lot of people end up dead from blood loss. That's the appropriate time to question things "properly".

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