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Title: "Best Critique of Evolution You Will Ever Hear"
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Published: Sep 1, 2017
Author: PNN
Post Date: 2017-09-01 17:33:27 by A K A Stone
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Views: 15514
Comments: 71

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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)

I have been saying this for decade or more. Evolution only works with in species and there has never been a species to species change.

Faith is faith. They claim science when in fact it is no different than religious faith. Creationism should be taught right along with evolutionism because both are just as plausible as the other.

Justified  posted on  2017-09-01   18:54:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Justified (#1)

The problem with creationism is that it pretty much cannot be proven. I've considered it a "default" theory, which can be embraced when no other theory, such as evolution, is found to be satisfactory.

If one is to embrace creationism because of lack of satisfactory proof of evolution, then a logical question is, if proof is a requirement to believe, then where is the proof of creationism?

The narrator asks if evolution observable, demonstratable, repeatable and quantifiable, but those requirements are completely lacking in creationism. To be fair, one must judge both by the same measure, and creationism most certainly fails on all 4 points.

So far as I know, evolution theory does have more to explain than has been explained thus far, namely how a new species can arise that has more genetic coding than the species it supposedly evolved from. On the other hand, science is claiming that much unused genetic material exists in plants and animals. For example, chicken DNA supposedly has coding for growing teeth. I would consider DNA coding for teeth in chickens to be evidence in support of evolution. I also read that Bananas, have about 50% more DNA material than us humans do, in spite of being a far simpler form of life.

I do understand why it is important for bible-believing Christians that creationism be the explanation for the origin of life, and it's because it's the only way man (us) can have an immortal soul existence. If all life is simply a complex biochemical reaction, and man evolved from animals, then we are the same as animals and face the same fate as animals. We live and die, gone forever. A very bleak thing indeed.

My personal understanding and outlook on the matter allows both for evolution and an immortal soul existence, without any conflict whatsoever. The human race may well have evolved from apes and lower life forms, including bacteria without compromising us as immortal soul entities. And frankly it makes a huge amount of sense. And, Ironically, it does allow for both evolution and intelligent design. I consider it possible that it is a combination of the two.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-09-02   0:15:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Pinguinite (#5)

The problem with creationism is that it pretty much cannot be proven.

I do understand why it is important for bible-believing Christians that creationism be the explanation for the origin of life, and it's because it's the only way

If there were any conflicts with science and creationism then people would abandon it.

But there aren't.

Evolution is a theory that has been disproved and for which there is zero zilch nada no evidence.

I understand why it is important for atheists to cling to evolution and other wacky fantasies. They don't want to be accountable and they reject the truth.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-09-02   0:24:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: A K A Stone, Pinguinite, nolu chan (#6)

I understand why it is important for atheists to cling to evolution and other wacky fantasies.

Really? Can you tell me exactly how their atheist lives are richer or fuller or detail how their lives are better (or worse) because of evolution?

How about Christians? Can you tell me exactly how their Christian lives are richer or fuller or detail how their lives are better (or worse) because of creationism?

The truth is that creationism and evolution may line the pockets of some loudmouths and scammers in both evolutionist and creationist camps but the vast vast majority of mankind neither cares nor needs to have an opinion about creation or evolution. Creationism and evolution will not make one iota of difference in their lives in the short term or the long term.

Wack!

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-02   5:34:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Tooconservative (#9)

Dont6 be a lamer. While you are correct about evolution. You are grossly wrong about creationism. If it wasn't for creationism many more people would be tricked by evolutionists. It would short circuit their faith. Evolution is a clever attack on the foundation of the Bible. If people can be tricked into believing the lie of evolution. They will say there was no Adam and Eve therefore what is the purpose of Jesus. There would be no point without original sin.

So creationism is just explaining our world to people so they can have some information that will counter the lie of evolution. Then if they believe they are accountable instead of unaccountable for their actions. They will generally be better people.

So creationism is in fact very important.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-09-02   8:04:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: A K A Stone (#11)

While you are correct about evolution. You are grossly wrong about creationism.

I think it is something people yak about. Not something that actually matters in their daily lives.

I think the majority of the public doesn't care much where we came from. There are small factions of creationists and evolutionists who make money from or rise in their hierarchy as a result of holding a strident position.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-02   10:17:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Tooconservative (#13)

The majority may not be thinking about it all the time. But when they fall for the lie of evolution subconsciously for the rest of their lives constantly it causes them to reject gods word. You could also look at vpcreationism as just answering questions of skeptical and showing the people that they can believe in gods word and that it is reliable and not a fable.

So most of us aren't talking about it all the time but once we come to a conclusion it is affecting us all the time.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-09-02   21:09:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: A K A Stone (#21) (Edited)

Nice attempt at backfilling.

However, if you weren't exposed to all these crevo threads all the time on the internet, I doubt you'd ever give much thought to the topic at all. The same is true for about 99% of the public. Even people like pastors or evolutionary biologists just don't give it all that much thought unless someone is churning them up over the issue.

I didn't ping you to it but maybe you'd enjoy my favorite new Christian #FakeNews site. It's a hoot. Here's where I posted about it here at LF. Some really funny stuff and not just the low-hanging Pope Frank stuff either.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-09-02   21:22:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#23. To: Tooconservative (#22)

Before the internet i knew about this stuff. Ive been to seminars in the 80's. I'm not the typical person though.

What do you mean by backfilling?

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-09-02 21:27:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Tooconservative (#22)

The content of your link (at least the titles) sounded about as funny as sneakypetes joke he told the other day.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-09-02 21:29:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Tooconservative (#22)

I didn't ping you to it but maybe you'd enjoy my favorite new Christian #FakeNews site. It's a hoot. Here's where I posted about it here at LF. Some really funny stuff and not just the low-hanging Pope Frank stuff either.

Loved the Joel Osteen yacht one. Calvinist buddy of mine over at CF posted that one on CF. You would be amazed how many people thought it was real.

My all time fav at the Bee is still the one about a boy became a Calvinist because of vaccines. That one went 3 pages before everyone realized it was fake news.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-09-05 09:50:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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