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Title: Smoke seen pouring from Russian consulate in San Francisco
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http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_UNITED_STATES_RUSS
URL Source: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie ... AULT&CTIME=2017-09-01-15-46-06
Published: Sep 1, 2017
Author: GARANCE BURKE and ERIC RISBERG
Post Date: 2017-09-01 15:57:27 by XDMAR
Keywords: None
Views: 1816
Comments: 9
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- Acrid, black smoke was seen pouring from a chimney at the Russian consulate in San Francisco Friday, a day after the Trump administration ordered its closure amid escalating tensions between the United States and Russia. Firefighters who arrived at the scene were turned away by consulate officials who came from inside the building. An Associated Press reporter heard people who came from inside the building tell firefighters that there was no problem and that consulate staff were burning unidentified items in a fireplace. Mindy Talamadge, a spokeswoman from the San Francisco Fire Department, said the department received a call about the smoke and sent a crew to investigate but determined the smoke was coming from the chimney.
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#1. To: XDMAR (#0)
I was really hoping that Trump would be better at foreign relations than this.
Less than two days to move out and clear things from 6-stories building.
Trum has turned out to be a bit of a fool in many areas. Still not as bad as Hillary.
In a few areas, yes. I expected a learning curve, but am hoping that phase will be largely over before too much more time passes. Agreed on Hillary.
Trump is reducing Russia's U.S. presence to exactly the same number as the reduced U.S. presence in Russia. Note that Consuls and consular personnel do not enjoy the same diplomatic immunity as ambassadors and embassy personnel.
Not really, it was Russia that did that. Now Americans are NOT reducing Russian personnel, only Russian buildings.
I would say 'properties', not 'buildings'. They seem to be down to 3 properties each. Until they decide to piss in each others' Wheaties again for no good reason. Probably the pee will start flying again this weekend unless they come to their senses. This really hurts a lot of bystanders on both sides. People wanting academic visas, tourist visas, immigration visas, etc. It will hurt a lot of businesses and colleges and tourist spots for no good reason.
They seem to be down to 3 properties each. I don't know. They were not confiscated or forfeited yet. Perhaps impounded or commandeered are the right words?
I think the Russians still own those properties, they just can't use them. Same for us with our consular properties in Russia. By contrast, we do "own" our Russian embassy in Moscow and it is considered American soil just as the Russians "own" their D.C. embassy and it is considered Russian soil. The Iranians still own their embassy in D.C. and it is on Iranian soil but we don't allow them to use it and won't recognize any ambassador that is appointed to live in it. The Iranians have an interests section that is hosted in the Paki embassy. The Cuban embassy had been closed as an embassy since the Sixties but it continued to house the Cuban Interests section just as our embassy in Havana was officially closed but housed an American Interests section. Both embassies are now officially re-opened but neither Cuba nor America has appointed an ambassador. Once an ambassador is appointed, their credentials must be accepted by the other government for the embassy to be fully re-opened as an official embassy with an ambassador-in-residence and a full official staff and official (Secret Service) protection details.
#2. To: XDMAR (#0)
#3. To: Pinguinite (#1)
I was really hoping that Trump would be better at foreign relations than this.
#4. To: rlk (#3)
#5. To: XDMAR (#0)
#6. To: nolu chan (#5)
Trump is reducing Russia's U.S. presence to exactly the same number as the reduced U.S. presence in Russia.
#7. To: A Pole (#6)
Now Americans are NOT reducing Russian personnel, only Russian buildings.
#8. To: Tooconservative (#7)
I would say 'properties', not 'buildings'.
#9. To: A Pole (#8)
Perhaps impounded or commandeered are the right words?
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