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Title: Video shows Utah nurse screaming, being dragged into police car after refusing to let officer take blood from unconscious victim
Source: The Salt Lake Tribune
URL Source: http://www.sltrib.com/pb/news/2017/ ... -blood-from-unconscious-victim
Published: Sep 1, 2017
Author: Pamela Manson
Post Date: 2017-09-01 10:16:28 by Willie Green
Keywords: None
Views: 3452
Comments: 25

A nurse says she was assaulted and illegally arrested by a Salt Lake City police detective for following a hospital policy that does not allow blood draws from unconscious patients.

Footage from University Hospital and officer body cameras shows Detective Jeff Payne and nurse Alex Wubbels in a standoff over whether the policeman should be allowed to get a blood sample from a patient who had been injured in a July 26 collision in northern Utah that left another driver dead.

Wubbels says blood cannot be taken from an unconscious patient unless the patient is under arrest, unless there is a warrant allowing the draw or unless the patient consents. The detective acknowledges in the footage that none of those requirements is in place, but he insists that he has the authority to obtain the draw, according to the footage.

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#5. To: Willie Green (#0)

"Video shows Utah nurse screaming, being dragged into police car after refusing to let officer take blood from unconscious victim

What's going on here? The other article said, "Nurse screams for help as she is arrested for saying she can't draw blood from unconscious patient"

The officer was certified to draw blood. The law says he can draw blood from the driver of any vehicle. She interfered and wouldn't allow him to do his duty. She was arrested.

What's the fucking problem here people?

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-01   12:17:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: misterwhite (#5)

What's the fucking problem here people?

The fucking problem is readily apparent, but you love cops so much that you can never see them doing anything wrong, ever.

It's not an exaggeration to say that if a cop went into a school and gunned down a classroom full of first graders, you'd argue it was justified.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-09-01   12:25:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Pinguinite (#7)

The fucking problem is readily apparent

Yep. Ignorant posters like yourself. The law is on his side and you refuse to admit it. And when I point out your ignorance, you accuse me of justifying the execution of first graders.

You are one sick fuck.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-01   12:35:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: misterwhite (#8)

This from the SLTrib article:

Porter, however, said “implied consent” has not been the law in Utah since 2007, and the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 2016 that the Constitution permits warrantless breath tests in drunken-driving arrests, but not warrantless blood tests. She stressed that the patient was always considered the victim in the case and never was suspected of wrongdoing.

Ever occur to you that if the cop had implied consent to draw blood, that a warrant or consent would be a needlessly redundant requirement?

And the line about the draw being to protect the victim is, of course, complete hogwash, as it could only be used against him, not in favor of him.

It may also interest you to know about the accident victim:

Payne’s report identifies him as 43-year-old William Gray, a reserve officer in the Rigby, Idaho, Police Department, who suffered burns during a July 26 crash in Cache County.

Gray is a truck driver when he is not serving as a reserve police officer, according to the Idaho State Journal.

He's one of your guys.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-09-01   13:08:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Pinguinite (#10)

Porter, however, said “implied consent” has not been the law in Utah since 2007,

Porter is wrong. Read the law yourself:

https://le.utah.gov/xcode/Title41/Chapter6A/41-6a-S520.html?v=C41-6a 6a-S520_1800010118000101

"Ever occur to you that if the cop had implied consent to draw blood, that a warrant or consent would be a needlessly redundant requirement?"

Yes it would be.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-01   13:36:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: misterwhite (#11)

As for the law you linked to, maybe. I've no time to dig further, but it does not appear to place any obligation on medical staff.

I did read that the police are undergoing more training as a result of this incident. And it's plainly clear that at least in the court of public opinion, the cop is being severely slammed for his actions. I guess you don't care about whether cops relate well to the general public, but I guess that's a good thing for you as in any contest between medical personnel in the business of saving lives and cops doing their "duty", public opinion will go to medical people every time.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-09-01   13:51:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#16. To: Pinguinite (#13)

but it does not appear to place any obligation on medical staff.

Other than get out of the way.

"public opinion will go to medical people every time."

Especially when that public opinion is formed after reading misleading and inaccurate articles such as the above.

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