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Title: Nurse screams for help as she is arrested for saying she can't draw blood from unconscious patient
Source: https://www.yahoo.com/news/nurse-screams-help-she-arrested-0
URL Source: https://www.yahoo.com/news/nurse-sc ... lp-she-arrested-093436094.html
Published: Sep 1, 2017
Author: Jon Sharman
Post Date: 2017-09-01 08:54:50 by XDMAR
Keywords: None
Views: 2808
Comments: 17

A nurse was allegedly assaulted and illegally arrested when she told a detective she could not take a blood sample from an unconscious patient.

Alex Wubbels told a police officer she could not take blood from the victim of a lorry crash because he could not consent, and the officer had produced no warrant.

Footage taken by University Hospital, in Salt Lake City, Utah, and Detective Jeff Payne's body camera show he threatened Ms Wubbels with jail if she did not comply, despite her having checked the policy with her bosses, the Salt Lake Tribune reported.

As Ms Wubbels, a former Winter Olympian, is dragged from the hospital to a police patrol car, she can be heard to scream: "Help! Help! Somebody help me! Stop! Stop! I did nothing wrong!"

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#1. To: XDMAR (#0)

University Hospital's policy states blood cannot be drawn from an unconscious patient unless they have been arrested, a warrant for the procedure is granted, or the patient consents, the Tribune reported.

Hmmm. What if the University Hospital's policy stated that blood can be drawn from an unconscious patient only if they feel like drawing it?

Still OK? Private policy trumps state law?

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-01   9:11:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: misterwhite (#1)

University Hospital's policy states blood cannot be drawn from an unconscious patient unless they have been arrested, a warrant for the procedure is granted, or the patient consents, the Tribune reported.

What if the University Hospital's policy stated that blood can be drawn from an unconscious patient only if they feel like drawing it?

It doesn't state that, but don't let that stop you from making shit up as usual. The rules are specific.

Private policy trumps state law?

The guy wasn't under arrest and was not suspected of any wrongdoing. What right do the pigs have to demand a blood sample?

Deckard  posted on  2017-09-01   9:43:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Deckard (#2)

What right do the pigs have to demand a blood sample?

"By agreeing to have their driver’s license issued by the State of Utah, the driver has agreed to be subject to the implied consent law, which means that, if an officer requests that the driver do any sort of chemical test, including a blood draw, the driver has already implicitly consented to the test just by having a Utah license. In addition to a blood test, the officer can request a breath test or a urine test, or a test of any other fluids the officer wants."

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-01   11:03:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: misterwhite (#4)

The guy was a VICTIM of a (probably) unauthorized police car chase - he has committed NO CRIME.

Good grief, your cop worship never ends, does it?

Deckard  posted on  2017-09-01   11:30:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#9. To: Deckard (#5)

The guy was a VICTIM of a (probably) unauthorized police car chase - he has committed NO CRIME.

Was he driving? Did he have a driver's license?

Well then, by agreeing to have his driver’s license issued by the State of Utah, the driver has agreed to be subject to the implied consent law, which means that, if an officer requests that the driver do any sort of chemical test, including a blood draw, the driver has already implicitly consented to the test just by having a Utah license.

In the State of Utah, he doesn't have to commit a crime. So why are you bringing it up?

misterwhite  posted on  2017-09-01 12:05:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Deckard (#5)

The guy was a VICTIM of a (probably) unauthorized police car chase

Probably? We're now debating probabilities? Well that opens the door, doesn't it?

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