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Title: No, the feds shouldn’t give war machines to the police
Source: New York Post
URL Source: http://nypost.com/2017/08/28/no-the ... ve-war-machines-to-the-police/
Published: Aug 29, 2017
Author: Rand Paul
Post Date: 2017-08-29 23:08:54 by Hondo68
Keywords: big government heart of proble, reintroduce Stop Militarizing, Our Law Enforcement Act
Views: 2498
Comments: 15

No, the feds shouldn’t give war machines to the police

Speaking to the Fraternal Order of Police in Tennessee on Monday morning, Attorney General Jeff Sessions formally announced that the Trump administration will restart giving surplus military weapons and equipment to state and local law enforcement.


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#5. To: hondo68, XDMR, Tooconservative, Stoner (#0)

Battlefield America Is the New Normal: We’re Not in Mayberry Anymore

If we’re training cops as soldiers, giving them equipment like soldiers, dressing them up as soldiers, when are they going to pick up the mentality of soldiers? If you look at the police department, their creed is to protect and to serve. A soldier’s mission is to engage his enemy in close combat and kill him. Do we want police officers to have that mentality? Of course not.”— Arthur Rizer, former police officer and member of the military

Now ask yourself: why does a police department which hasn’t had an officer killed in the line of duty in over 125 years in a town of less than 20,000 people need tactical military vests like those used by soldiers in Afghanistan?

Why does a police department in a city of 35,000 people need a military-grade helicopter?

For that matter, what possible use could police at Ohio State University have for acquiring a heavily-armored vehicle intended to withstand IED blasts?

It’s a modern-day Trojan Horse.

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#6. To: Deckard, hondo68, XDMAR, Stoner (#5)

Now ask yourself: why does a police department which hasn’t had an officer killed in the line of duty in over 125 years in a town of less than 20,000 people need tactical military vests like those used by soldiers in Afghanistan?

You can have a very violent offender shooting at cops, even in a town where no officer has been killed in over 125 years. No one objects that much to giving cops body armor.

I think some of this surplus gear and even the free armored vehicles is much more about military suppliers being located in key congressional districts and retired generals sitting on the corporate boards of those companies. If wars around the world are winding down somewhat and the existing military is fully equipped, why not use political pull to keep those factories going to supply the MRAPs and bayonets and such to civilian PDs almost for free? After all, only a cop-hater could object, no?

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-08-30   8:28:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Tooconservative, Deckard, hondo68, XDMAR (#6)

" After all, only a cop-hater could object, no? "

I wouldn't be so sure about that.

Many taxpayers may think it is a waste of tax dollars.

Personally, I have no problem with the body armor, NV devices,even M-4's. But MRAP's, helicopters, and such for little podunk departmments. No, that is a bit excessive. Besides, many of those little burgs, the maintenance costs on a lot of that equipment for the locals is very high.

It also seems as though that DOD may be buying too much stuff to begin with. If most of this stuff they are giving away as surplus has been used very little if at all, then they are buying too much. Again, waste of tax dollars. But I guess it is good for campaign "contributions" from defense dept suppliers.

If Podunk PD has all those "cool" new toys, they will be looking for reasons to use them. That is not good

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#8. To: Stoner (#7)

Good points all.

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